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Top 3 Handheld Sci-fi Weapons vote.

grandnaguszek1grandnaguszek1 Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
edited February 2015 in Ten Forward
Let's just narrow down the choices from the other thread and put it to a vote!
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,725 Community Moderator
    edited February 2015
    Phaser
    Lightsaber
    M-41 Pulse Rifle

    *Honorable Mention: P-90
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  • grandnaguszek1grandnaguszek1 Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Phaser
    Lightsaber
    Jaffa energy staff.
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  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2015
    1.Lightsabers.

    2.Thor's Hammer.

    3.Iron Man's Repulsors (technically, weren't designed to be weapons, and technically, they're part of a suit, but they're on his hands)
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Highguard force-lance
    Phaser
    Judge Dredd's pistol

    Versatility, rather than just 'looks cool' or 'used by a badass' (which doesn't actually mean much about the weapon itself in anyone else's hand...)
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Mal Reynolds's gun.
    The Operative's sword.
    "Vera" (Jayne's favorite gun).

    Honorable mention: River Tam. Just...River Tam.
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,489 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I'll see your River Tam, and raise you Leeloo Dallas.

    1. Phaser (gotta love a weapon that's anything from disabling to a low-key WMD, depending on how you set it)

    2. High Guard force lance (almost as versatile as a phaser)

    3. Still giving it to the Black Widow Mk 5 anti-materiel sniper rifle

    Lightsabers may seem utterly cool, but the only reason they're the uberweapon in the Star Wars universe is because no one there has invented the shotgun. (Double-ought twenty-gauge buckshot at five yards - parry that, Jedi-boy!)
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  • adverberoadverbero Member Posts: 2,045 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    well if we're counting the fallout world as Sci fi

    You would have to go a long way to find a more destrucive arsenal of ludicrous handheld energy weapons and assorted percussion Hand cannons

    I'd throw in a vote for the Tesla Cannon
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  • fmgtorres1979fmgtorres1979 Member Posts: 1,327 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Lightsaber
    Dual/Double-bladed Lightsaber
  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    jonsills wrote: »
    (Double-ought twenty-gauge buckshot at five yards - parry that, Jedi-boy!)

    *telekinetically stops the projectiles in mid-air*

    :P

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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    No mention of the BlasTech E-11 or DL-44? M-41a is a great weapon but those two blasters are iconic.
  • shevetshevet Member Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Absolutely not giving my vote to any "magic sword" or "bog-standard gun that happens to be used by a cool character"....

    1. Phaser, for versatility.

    2. The Gun from Logan's Run - the book, not the film or the TV series. If you know the book, you know why.

    3. Tasp, from the Known Space series. One of very few weapons you actually enjoy getting hit by. (Well, unless you have very specific, E. L. James kinds of tastes. Takes all sorts, I suppose.)
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Mal Reynolds's gun.
    The Operative's sword.
    "Vera" (Jayne's favorite gun).

    Honorable mention: River Tam. Just...River Tam.
    My exact point :D What makes the weapons cool other than the people using them? Nothing... :P

    jonsills wrote: »
    I'll see your River Tam, and raise you Leeloo Dallas.

    1. Phaser (gotta love a weapon that's anything from disabling to a low-key WMD, depending on how you set it)

    2. High Guard force lance (almost as versatile as a phaser)

    3. Still giving it to the Black Widow Mk 5 anti-materiel sniper rifle

    Lightsabers may seem utterly cool, but the only reason they're the uberweapon in the Star Wars universe is because no one there has invented the shotgun. (Double-ought twenty-gauge buckshot at five yards - parry that, Jedi-boy!)

    I'd suggest the force lance is more versatile than a phaser, due to it's staff configuration (which, if deployed, could still be used after the juice runs out...) :cool:
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    My exact point :D What makes the weapons cool other than the people using them? Nothing... :P

    Mal's gun isn't a pistol, it's a .303 hand cannon that he draws and fires like a six-shooter. It's badass.
    The Operative's sword is sharp, brutal, and efficient, much like its wielder. Plus, it can slice through some forms of armor better than bullets.
    "Vera" is a future upgrade on an assault weapon (which is designed to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible). There's a reason why she and Jayne are practically married.

    As for River Tam...it's heavily implied from the start that the Alliance tried to make her into a living weapon. And hoo BOY did they succeed! *looks at TRIBBLE-up corpses of Reavers*
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Mal's gun isn't a pistol, it's a .303 hand cannon that he draws and fires like a six-shooter. It's badass.
    The Operative's sword is sharp, brutal, and efficient, much like its wielder. Plus, it can slice through some forms of armor better than bullets.
    "Vera" is a future upgrade on an assault weapon (which is designed to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible). There's a reason why she and Jayne are practically married.
    Not really... Mal's the badass... I'd compare to Harry Callahan and his .44 Magnum, but the Magnum had an advantage over other pistols in terms of stopping power. Give them to anyone else to use, and they're just as effective weapons, but there's nothing beyond that. Same point about Vera, and I'd bet the M41a pulse rifle can kill as many people as possible and can be fired in vacuum... ;) The Operative's sword, as with the gun, was just a sword. Nothing particularly special about it, certainly no more so than any other sword, even, say a bat'leth. I'd compare the Operative's sword to the katana wielded by Butch Coolidge in Pulp Fiction. It was used effectively against people unable to defend against it, by someone who was prepared to use it, but again, the badassery comes from the user, not the weapon... ;) Ramirez' katana, which I mentioned in my Top Ten was equally 'just a sword', but it did have aesthetic artistry beyond the mere practical, and was unique, because (inVerse) it had been made in a particular way long before the Japanese began to use the technique, giving it extra 'cool points' of historical value and interest (Brenda was fascinated to see it, simply because of what it was, not what someone could do with it) regardless of who wielded it. Equally, Blade's sword has a defence mechanism in the hilt which would maim anyone trying to use it, giving it a feature which other swords do not... If we're talking Cool Weapons, then the people using them have to be discounted... Would x weapon be just as badass if someone else was using it (or my criteria of choice, versatility of the weapon)
    worffan101 wrote: »
    As for River Tam...it's heavily implied from the start that the Alliance tried to make her into a living weapon. And hoo BOY did they succeed! *looks at TRIBBLE-up corpses of Reavers*
    Absolutely so :cool:
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Yeah, I find the weapons that I mentioned to be aesthetically pleasing.

    And I get why Jayne likes Vera so much. She's beautiful. Uh, as a gun. Purely as an object of mayhem. Not in the, ah, way that Jayne lovingly polishes all of her surfaces...

    :D
  • hawkwing43hawkwing43 Member Posts: 1,701 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Ok if I have to list 3, then I must have the following:

    1. Lightsaber Green
    2. Phaser TNG
    3. Preditor Flying disk, you know the one that can cut you in 1/2 from range.

    Those are my top 3.
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Yeah, I find the weapons that I mentioned to be aesthetically pleasing.
    But there's still nothing really unique about them... Had Mal's gun been made by say the first guy to make an energy weapon, that would've scored it some cool-points, but at the end of the day, like Dirty Harry's Magnum, it's 'just a gun', all it can do is shoot people, be used to pistol-whip a fool, or in a pinch, be thrown at someone... :D In Magnum Force, even Harry was bested in a shooting competition, so the weapon alone doesn't convery badass-status, that's something the user either has, or doesn't have... Or another way of looking at it... Say you're going on an away mission. Would you prefer a Type II, or Mal's pistol? (strictly those options only exactly as they are inVerse)
    worffan101 wrote: »
    And I get why Jayne likes Vera so much. She's beautiful. Uh, as a gun. Purely as an object of mayhem. Not in the, ah, way that Jayne lovingly polishes all of her surfaces...

    :D
    Oh sure, I get it. The same way Private Pyle loved Charlene (and see what happened there :D )
    I admit, Vera's more than the sum of her parts due to mods, so that earns her cool-points above Mal's piece, but I think much of the coolness is coming from Jayne and as mentioned, I suspect the M41a to be a more versatile piece (I'm judging in terms of away mission viability, rather than wall-hanger 'would be nice to own' trophy pieces ;) )
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I'd take Mal's pistol if I knew the LZ was hot, and most other situations. The type 2, which can't kill anything even when set to kill, is for police work and other nonlethals only.
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    worffan101 wrote: »
    I'd take Mal's pistol if I knew the LZ was hot, and most other situations. The type 2, which can't kill anything even when set to kill, is for police work and other nonlethals only.
    ? :confused: ?

    Setting 6 would leave nasty burns, Setting 8 is immediately lethal, and Setting 9 will immediately vapourise the target... Setting 16, on the other hand: (found online, and I believed transcribed from TNG Technical Manual)

    Setting: 16
    Description: Extreme Explosive/Disruption Effects
    Shielded matter exhibits major vibrational heating effects
    Extreme geological displacement, as approximately 370 m3 of rock (of average density 6.0 g/cm3) is explosively decoupled by a single discharge

    Imagine what that would do to a street of protestors, let alone an individual assailant :D
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    ? :confused: ?

    Setting 6 would leave nasty burns, Setting 8 is immediately lethal, and Setting 9 will immediately vapourise the target... Setting 16, on the other hand: (found online, and I believed transcribed from TNG Technical Manual)

    Setting: 16
    Description: Extreme Explosive/Disruption Effects
    Shielded matter exhibits major vibrational heating effects
    Extreme geological displacement, as approximately 370 m3 of rock (of average density 6.0 g/cm3) is explosively decoupled by a single discharge

    Imagine what that would do to a street of protestors, let alone an individual assailant :D

    I'm going by on-screen effects. Also, the TNG phaser is ridiculously non-ergonomic.

    I'd never use Mal's gun for police work, but in a war or ESPECIALLY against the Borg I'd want it.

    For Reavers? Jayne Cobb's entire arsenal, or preferably glassing from orbit. Reavers ain't men.
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,489 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    shevet wrote: »
    3. Tasp, from the Known Space series. One of very few weapons you actually enjoy getting hit by. (Well, unless you have very specific, E. L. James kinds of tastes. Takes all sorts, I suppose.)
    Even then it's effective. It tickles the pleasure center of the brain directly, no matter what your psyche ordinarily demands for such tickling. On the other hand, repeated exposure can be addictive...

    I hadn't listed the Gun in my top 3 because while the Homer rounds are amazing, I was never terribly fond of the way they kill.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    1. Lawgiver - Imagine the chaos and destruction one of these can give on various settings, boom!.
    2. Lightsaber - A lasersword that can cut things in half and easily iconic.
    3. Jaffa Ma'tok staff - "A weapon of terror" as jack o'niell called it, the Ma'tok used all the time by Jaffa. Also very iconic.
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    edited February 2015
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    worffan101 wrote: »
    I'm going by on-screen effects. Also, the TNG phaser is ridiculously non-ergonomic.

    I'd never use Mal's gun for police work, but in a war or ESPECIALLY against the Borg I'd want it.

    For Reavers? Jayne Cobb's entire arsenal, or preferably glassing from orbit. Reavers ain't men.
    In an episode of DS9, Sisko used a Type II to excavate a cave wall (presumeably modifying the beam configuration of Setting 10: Medium alloys and ceramic structural materials (of over 100 cm thickness) begin exhibiting energy rebound prior to vapourisation) I agree, the TNG Type II is uncomfortable to hold, the re-design first seen in First Contact is much more comfortable and ergonomic.

    What's the firing capacity of Mal's piece? Would Borg shields adapt to it? Sure, as pieces go, it's nice enough, I just think there are better and more versatile weapons out there :D
  • grandnaguszek1grandnaguszek1 Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I see lots of Phaser people;).
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    In an episode of DS9, Sisko used a Type II to excavate a cave wall (presumeably modifying the beam configuration of Setting 10: Medium alloys and ceramic structural materials (of over 100 cm thickness) begin exhibiting energy rebound prior to vapourisation) I agree, the TNG Type II is uncomfortable to hold, the re-design first seen in First Contact is much more comfortable and ergonomic.

    What's the firing capacity of Mal's piece? Would Borg shields adapt to it? Sure, as pieces go, it's nice enough, I just think there are better and more versatile weapons out there :D

    Pistol refitted to take .303 rifle rounds. It's enough to take down a charging Reaver with one shot at about twenty-five meters. It's fast enough on the draw to take the Operative twice in the chest before he can even react (although admittedly it's Mal using it, and Mal puts even Jayne to shame in a pistol fight), and powerful enough to kill a hormone-fueled engine of carnage with one hit. Accurate enough in Mal's hands to shoot and snap a carbon-fiber cable while travelling at hundreds of miles per hour, and powerful enough to snap said cable in that scene.

    It's like the Sig Sauer 9-millimeter that Butler uses in the Artemis Fowl series. A hand cannon. Or Schlock's plasgun, an Infinity +1 Sword.

    Borg probably couldn't adapt to it given their terrible track record with kinetics. Thus, I'd take it and go to town.
  • aliensamongusaliensamongus Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I'd choose the Noisy Cricket from Men in Black.
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I see lots of Phaser people;).

    Still not my Number One Choice, but no denying their versatility :cool:
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Pistol refitted to take .303 rifle rounds. It's enough to take down a charging Reaver with one shot at about twenty-five meters. It's fast enough on the draw to take the Operative twice in the chest before he can even react (although admittedly it's Mal using it, and Mal puts even Jayne to shame in a pistol fight), and powerful enough to kill a hormone-fueled engine of carnage with one hit. Accurate enough in Mal's hands to shoot and snap a carbon-fiber cable while travelling at hundreds of miles per hour, and powerful enough to snap said cable in that scene.

    It's like the Sig Sauer 9-millimeter that Butler uses in the Artemis Fowl series. A hand cannon. Or Schlock's plasgun, an Infinity +1 Sword.

    Borg probably couldn't adapt to it given their terrible track record with kinetics. Thus, I'd take it and go to town.
    Definitely something to have as a backup piece then, but I still like the idea of being able to blow up the entire street beneath a bunch of protesters in a single shot with a Type II ;) "Crowd control? That's my specialty..." Someone needs to say :D
  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    If you put the proverbial gun to my head, my top three are:

    1. The Zero-Point Energy Field Manipulator (aka "Gravity Gun") from Half-Life 2: You want versatile? I give you a tractor/repulsor beam that can also turn just anything - or anybody - into a (screaming) projectile. It also wins for the sheer hilarity, and the diversity of its effects.
    2. The Varon-T Disruptor from TNG: 3x22 - "The Most Toys": It is illegal to manufacture or own this weapon and its use has been ruled a war crime. YES I want that gun.
    3. The Strohl Munitions BH-209i (aka "Plasma Cannon" or "Plasgun") from Schlock Mercenary: If the Ommmminous Hummmmmm doesn't set the bad guys to running, the THOOOOM will. Or set them on fire. Or both. Can also be used as jetpack (though difficult to handle and extremely unsafe, even for a carbosilicate amorph.)


    Honorable mention to the CAM-grenade firing MGL used by the MCDF Marine Corps in the Masterverse. It's man-portable anti-shipping artillery.
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