Why would they need to "explain" who Peter Parker is? Especially if they use Miles Morales instead?
I think we all know pretty well what Spidey's original backstory is. People who take pride in never having seen any of the movies or read any of the comics know it. Let's not rehash it again, okay? (When Marvel and Sony were in talks on the topic, Marvel execs said that if they got to use Spidey, they wanted him to already be in the suit and with the powers, beginning to establish himself as a hero, not the "Peter gets bitten" story again.)
And if it's Miles, all you have to do is establish that a) he was a Spider-Man fanboy and b) something terrible had happened to the original, just before the incident that gave Miles his powers, so he took up the mantle with a much cooler costume.
(That also fills Worffan's request, as Miles is half-black/half-Hispanic. )
However, even if it's Peter, let's please not redo the old origin story. It's tired, and needs a nice long rest.
It's a shame that Marvel seems to feel they must change all their flagship characters around (eg. Falcon as the new Captain America, Thor is now a woman etc.) rather than focusing on the already existing, fantastic characters they have in their stable. Falcon, Black Panther, Luke Cage, Storm, Sunfire et. al are great characters.
Just my personal opinion, it seems like these are just to cause a buzz in the media. Why not remake the Avengers to be a team of Asian circus midgets?
That's "Asian circus" little people. :P
One thing I do understand is a need to show age/time advancement, and that means dead or retiring heroes/villains. Personal preference, but a comic that remains trapped in no-time doesn't look so effective when taken as a whole. I'm all for developing a role, then having characters fill it. That allows for a variety of people of differing gender, ethnicity, sexual/religious/moral orientation, medical conditions, etc. Prime examples are The Phantom (The Walker family fulfilling the name), the Green Lantern Corp, the mantle of The Flash, and the mantle of The Question. Even a standard name can be made a role. Nick Fury was created white. Ultimate Nick Fury is black. The difference, rarely stated, is that he's the second Nick Fury in the family, possessing most if not all the traits of his ancestor.
A role or mantle with another person inhabiting it: fine. Changing the vitals of an established person: no, please. So in the Spiderman discussion, leave Parker as is, but if you wish another ethnicity, retire Parker, then empower and bring in Miguel O'hare to inhabit the mantle of Spiderman.
Refusing to pass the mantle is one of the issues I've had with Batman for a few years now, ever since Bruce "died" and young Richard donned the cowl. Then Bruce got better, came back, and founded Batman Inc., which I thought was a clever twist on the concept even if some of the characters were mildly painful (the Native American version, for instance). But at least Grayson still got to wear the official costume, having supplanted Bruce as the Batman.
And then Bruce took it back, sending Grayson back home to take up the role of Nightwing again. Because of course status quo is the Holy Grail of comics; any changes must be undone within a year or two at most. (I'm expecting James Howlett to return as Wolverine any time now, if he hasn't already.)
I'm quite fond of the idea that whether Bruce died at the end of Dark Knight Rises or not, the man "coincidentally" named Robin is taking his place. I'd love to see another movie with this new Batman. I won't, sadly, but I'd love to.
(Yes, I've had to use a few circumlocutions to refer to Bruce's first student here. The profanity filter doesn't like the first name he prefers. I have the same problem trying to say anything about the author of We Can Remember It For You Wholesale and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?.)
I was just thinking guys. You know this opens the door for the Iron Spiderman saga right? Seeing how Spiderman will be part of the Captain America: Civil War. That's where he got his Iron Spider Suit in the comics.
After he got Gwen killed and even then, it was a shoe horned attempt to force the dynamic when, as you said, his "needed character development update" would have more likely had resulted in even higher casualty counts and he would have most likely sunk even deeper. It was a very strange attempt to return to the Parker/Spiderman dynamic after discarding it for the majority of the series.
'Rise' was full of too many plot points to digest, but it would have been nicer if he had stayed retired until the next film.
I'm quite fond of the idea that whether Bruce died at the end of Dark Knight Rises or not, the man "coincidentally" named Robin is taking his place. I'd love to see another movie with this new Batman. I won't, sadly, but I'd love to.
That's what I was hoping would happen to the DC shared universe, legacy, not another bleeding reboot :rolleyes:.
I'm still hoping the 'Robin' Batman will turn up in Arrow, I'd love for the DK trilogy and Arrow to exist together.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
You'd have to do a "Secret Wars" film then, since that's where Spidey got the black suit/symbiote from....
While I would go total ape**** if the endgame of the MCU was a Secret Wars film with everyone ever in these films to appear, with Stan Lee himself playing the role of The Beyonder, I'm happy for the Venom symbiote to come from other origins. For example, Ultimate Spiderman, the symbiote was an attempt to cure cancer that went drastically wrong. In the 90's toon, his symbiote was contained in some asteroid samples that Jonah's son brought back to earth. It broke free, caused the shuttle to crash and got stuck on Spidey's costume when he tried to rescue Jonah's son (While also fighting Rhino and Shocker). In the movie, it just fell from space.
Now granted, I prefer he be the alien symbiote over the cancer curing suit, but by proper Venom, I mean someone heavily bulkier than Spiderman, who can go toe to toe with him and easily beat him. Someone who has a dual symbiosis with each part of the being. More about the way the character behaves and acts, rather than where exactly the symbiote found Parker. Topher Grace did a decent job of the role he had, but Venom is not just a black Spider-Man.
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Ok now that I fully understand that's going on with this Spiderman news, and reading more about the plans. It looks like Marvel wants a teenage Spiderman type, you know the high school/ collage type. And I see nothing wrong with that.
But, please no origins story to re-kick off this brand, and please add the Black Cat to any new story.
But if they need to do an origins story, leave it in the opening credits, then pick up with current spiderman events.
Redo all the villains for the MCU, and have tons of cross overs from the current and future MCU heros/ villains.
Not the next question is, who should place this new Spiderman?
Ok now that I fully understand that's going on with this Spiderman news, and reading more about the plans. It looks like Marvel wants a teenage Spiderman type, you know the high school/ collage type. And I see nothing wrong with that.
But, please no origins story to re-kick off this brand, and please add the Black Cat to any new story.
But if they need to do an origins story, leave it in the opening credits, then pick up with current spiderman events.
Redo all the villains for the MCU, and have tons of cross overs from the current and future MCU heros/ villains.
Not the next question is, who should play this new Spiderman?
Not that many well known actors can pull off the shy nerd turned snarky superhero. I'd bet on a Relative Unknown.
"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP"
Not that many well known actors can pull off the shy nerd turned snarky superhero. I'd bet on a Relative Unknown.
This is also something Marvel likes to do - lock a promising actor into a 6 movie deal while they're cheap for whatever reason - unknown, breaking into film from television, coming back from trashing their career, etc. That way, after having couple billion dollar blockbusters on their resume make them an in-demand A-list actor, Marvel's still got them locked into a C-list paygrade.
Lets Marvel keep the payroll for an Avengers movie from bloating out of control without going the Fox route of having the X-men movies increasingly be Wolverine movies, and right now it's basically the best resume building an actor can get.
Fairly certain they are going to re-boot it and do the origin story again.
Marvel's already said they're dispensing with origin movies, and that was when they were talking about characters who won't be at all familiar to anyone who doesn't read comics.
Spider-man is an obvious candidate for the Hulk treatment. Hulk never got an origin story in the MCU - the Ang Lee movie wasn't part of the continuity. But, since his origin had been done on screen in recent memory, they just quietly ignored what happened in it while assuming the viewer saw it anyway.
His origins are familiar enough that they can be stuck into a 2 minute flashback scene at the beginning of Civil War or even an after-credits scene on Ant Man (assuming the rumor that he's apearing in Civil War first before his solo run), and the audience won't really question when he shows up.
The rest can be covered in a 2 minute conversation that I think Tony Stark would be ideal to fill in:
"New York, huh? Great town, love it. You know we - the Avengers - were uh... we were there a couple years ago. Could really have used somebody of your shall we say talents?"
"I was... uh.. in school."
"Oh, yes, of course, they didn't close school for that, just an alien invasion was all."
Spider-man is an obvious candidate for the Hulk treatment. Hulk never got an origin story in the MCU - the Ang Lee movie wasn't part of the continuity. But, since his origin had been done on screen in recent memory, they just quietly ignored what happened in it while assuming the viewer saw it anyway.
Oh...huh. I thought they jettisoned the Ang Lee movie but kept The Incredible Hulk, the one with Ed Norton in it. From what I've seen in the MCU, it dovetails with that film: Banner on the run somewhere in the world at the start of The Avengers, and even a comment about the Abomination as a bad choice for the Avengers made by Coulson in one of the side pieces of the MCU. Even the level of control Banner has over the Hulk form in the Avengers seems built off the last scene in The Incredible Hulk, where Banner is shown making progress.
Oh...huh. I thought they jettisoned the Ang Lee movie but kept The Incredible Hulk, the one with Ed Norton in it. From what I've seen in the MCU, it dovetails with that film: Banner on the run somewhere in the world at the start of The Avengers, and even a comment about the Abomination as a bad choice for the Avengers made by Coulson in one of the side pieces of the MCU. Even the level of control Banner has over the Hulk form in the Avengers seems built off the last scene in The Incredible Hulk, where Banner is shown making progress.
Yes, the Ang Lee Hulk has been officially disregarded. The other one is sort of "soft canon"; it'll do for an origin movie, even if it wasn't strictly a Marvel production. (In Agents of SHIELD, I think Coulson mentioned the Abomination as one of the things they kept in the Fridge - the secret SHIELD facility, not the place the Avengers put their lunches.)
Now that the deal has been struck, I actually expect Spidey to be mentioned in AoS first, as an "unregistered gifted" that they might have to keep tabs on but not actually pursue as such. It's easier to tweak things like that in a TV show under current production, after all. (Or who knows - they might actually have the actor guest on AoS to do the whole "origin story" thing, so he can appear as an established costumed hero in the movies.)
The Ed Norton movie wasn't a Marvel production, but at that point neither was the rest of the MCU (Iron Man 1 and 2 were Paramount productions) it is officially part of the MCU. A couple background news items in Iron Man 2 show images or clips from it, they take place approximately the same time. And of course, Iron Man was in the after-credits scene.
The Ang Lee movie, like I said, was not part of the MCU, but is the only one that handled the origin story. The MCU never gave Hulk an origin, it just assumed the viewer had seen the first movie while ignoring that it actually happened, giving an incompatible story about an existing Hulk struggling with his dual identity. The closest the MCU got to Hulk's origins was in the Avengers when Stark discussed the gamma ray dose with Banner, suggesting that "the other guy" had saved his life.
The Ed Norton movie wasn't a Marvel production, but at that point neither was the rest of the MCU (Iron Man 1 and 2 were Paramount productions) it is officially part of the MCU. A couple background news items in Iron Man 2 show images or clips from it, they take place approximately the same time. And of course, Iron Man was in the after-credits scene.
The Ang Lee movie, like I said, was not part of the MCU, but is the only one that handled the origin story. The MCU never gave Hulk an origin, it just assumed the viewer had seen the first movie while ignoring that it actually happened, giving an incompatible story about an existing Hulk struggling with his dual identity. The closest the MCU got to Hulk's origins was in the Avengers when Stark discussed the gamma ray dose with Banner, suggesting that "the other guy" had saved his life.
If the Ed Norton movie is actually an MCU element, even soft canon, it did have an origin, told in flashback. That version deliberately paralleled the look and feel of the origin in the old Bill Bixby/Lou Ferrigno TV version complete with a similar-looking gamma machine (which I thought was a great touch).
The norton Hulk was shown in the credits of his origins. And briefly mentioned he was trying to create a supersoldier (at this point, no reference to Cap was made though). But it is canon. As that film is when he learnt to always be angry. Also, last time he was in NY he broke Harlem. That was the Abomination fight. I loved the references to the Bixby series, including his eyes changing first.
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The norton Hulk was shown in the credits of his origins. And briefly mentioned he was trying to create a supersoldier (at this point, no reference to Cap was made though).
Yeah, that's a bit they swiped from the Ultimates universe, which helps avoid the whole Rick Jones kerfluffle - in Earth-1610, Banner was trying to reproduce the Vita-Rays from the experiment that made Cap, and accidentally zapped himself. (Thankfully, we don't have Ultimate Hulk - Bendis apparently assumed the major drive he would have at that point was the desire to sexually assault every woman he met.)
The 'Incredible Hulk' is 100% MCU. It has nothing to do with 'Hulk' at all, just because they have South America in common doesn't mean TIH follows on from H, it's a total reboot. The Hulk himself was remodelled and Banner was recast for the Avengers: Assemble, but TIH is still fully canon.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I'm in two minds about this. One one hand, moving Spider-Man into the MCU in any form is fantastic, though I would actually preferred a Netflix series on him rather than a film, it now cuts the film universe down to two (X-Men and MCU).
My main issues however are :REBOOT!!!!! and recast :mad:.......
Again? Doh!
If they are going on with that pace Spiderman will be the first franchise with the very questionable honor of getting a reboot announced while the newest reboot is still in production :P
Not sure if I'm to happy with it.
I feel the last thing spider man needs is another recast. I'd still love to see Maguire back in the role, but that's certainly not gonna happen (I kind of think the tone of the original movies matched far better with the mcu the new one).
Still not sure what's worst: A Spider-Man without an origin story or seeing that f*** origin story for the third time....
True, and yet it feels incomplete if there isn't an origin telling (anoying enough that the hulk hasn't one).
May be they should do that somehow in agents of shield or daredevil...
I prefer the route they took in the Incredible Hulk or Punisher: War Zone. Just skim over it in the opening credits using a montage sequence, or have a small part in the middle of the film where the audience is given a loose rundown of what the origin story actually is.
There can be an origin story in whatever comic media they want to have, they just aren't obligated to make it roughly half if not 75% of the movie.
I prefer the Alex Ross illustrated montage in the second Raimi film that went over what happened in the first movie. It was much more powerful and meaningful than a lot of people gave it credit for.
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I think we all know pretty well what Spidey's original backstory is. People who take pride in never having seen any of the movies or read any of the comics know it. Let's not rehash it again, okay? (When Marvel and Sony were in talks on the topic, Marvel execs said that if they got to use Spidey, they wanted him to already be in the suit and with the powers, beginning to establish himself as a hero, not the "Peter gets bitten" story again.)
And if it's Miles, all you have to do is establish that a) he was a Spider-Man fanboy and b) something terrible had happened to the original, just before the incident that gave Miles his powers, so he took up the mantle with a much cooler costume.
(That also fills Worffan's request, as Miles is half-black/half-Hispanic.
However, even if it's Peter, let's please not redo the old origin story. It's tired, and needs a nice long rest.
That's "Asian circus" little people. :P
One thing I do understand is a need to show age/time advancement, and that means dead or retiring heroes/villains. Personal preference, but a comic that remains trapped in no-time doesn't look so effective when taken as a whole. I'm all for developing a role, then having characters fill it. That allows for a variety of people of differing gender, ethnicity, sexual/religious/moral orientation, medical conditions, etc. Prime examples are The Phantom (The Walker family fulfilling the name), the Green Lantern Corp, the mantle of The Flash, and the mantle of The Question. Even a standard name can be made a role. Nick Fury was created white. Ultimate Nick Fury is black. The difference, rarely stated, is that he's the second Nick Fury in the family, possessing most if not all the traits of his ancestor.
A role or mantle with another person inhabiting it: fine. Changing the vitals of an established person: no, please. So in the Spiderman discussion, leave Parker as is, but if you wish another ethnicity, retire Parker, then empower and bring in Miguel O'hare to inhabit the mantle of Spiderman.
And then Bruce took it back, sending Grayson back home to take up the role of Nightwing again. Because of course status quo is the Holy Grail of comics; any changes must be undone within a year or two at most. (I'm expecting James Howlett to return as Wolverine any time now, if he hasn't already.)
I'm quite fond of the idea that whether Bruce died at the end of Dark Knight Rises or not, the man "coincidentally" named Robin is taking his place. I'd love to see another movie with this new Batman. I won't, sadly, but I'd love to.
(Yes, I've had to use a few circumlocutions to refer to Bruce's first student here. The profanity filter doesn't like the first name he prefers. I have the same problem trying to say anything about the author of We Can Remember It For You Wholesale and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?.)
Just saying.:D
That's what I was hoping would happen to the DC shared universe, legacy, not another bleeding reboot :rolleyes:.
I'm still hoping the 'Robin' Batman will turn up in Arrow, I'd love for the DK trilogy and Arrow to exist together.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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While I would go total ape**** if the endgame of the MCU was a Secret Wars film with everyone ever in these films to appear, with Stan Lee himself playing the role of The Beyonder, I'm happy for the Venom symbiote to come from other origins. For example, Ultimate Spiderman, the symbiote was an attempt to cure cancer that went drastically wrong. In the 90's toon, his symbiote was contained in some asteroid samples that Jonah's son brought back to earth. It broke free, caused the shuttle to crash and got stuck on Spidey's costume when he tried to rescue Jonah's son (While also fighting Rhino and Shocker). In the movie, it just fell from space.
Now granted, I prefer he be the alien symbiote over the cancer curing suit, but by proper Venom, I mean someone heavily bulkier than Spiderman, who can go toe to toe with him and easily beat him. Someone who has a dual symbiosis with each part of the being. More about the way the character behaves and acts, rather than where exactly the symbiote found Parker. Topher Grace did a decent job of the role he had, but Venom is not just a black Spider-Man.
A Romulan Strike Team, Missing Farmers and an ancient base on a Klingon Border world. But what connects them? Find out in my First Foundary mission: 'The Jeroan Farmer Escapade'
But, please no origins story to re-kick off this brand, and please add the Black Cat to any new story.
But if they need to do an origins story, leave it in the opening credits, then pick up with current spiderman events.
Redo all the villains for the MCU, and have tons of cross overs from the current and future MCU heros/ villains.
Not the next question is, who should place this new Spiderman?
Not that many well known actors can pull off the shy nerd turned snarky superhero. I'd bet on a Relative Unknown.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
This is also something Marvel likes to do - lock a promising actor into a 6 movie deal while they're cheap for whatever reason - unknown, breaking into film from television, coming back from trashing their career, etc. That way, after having couple billion dollar blockbusters on their resume make them an in-demand A-list actor, Marvel's still got them locked into a C-list paygrade.
Lets Marvel keep the payroll for an Avengers movie from bloating out of control without going the Fox route of having the X-men movies increasingly be Wolverine movies, and right now it's basically the best resume building an actor can get.
Marvel's already said they're dispensing with origin movies, and that was when they were talking about characters who won't be at all familiar to anyone who doesn't read comics.
Spider-man is an obvious candidate for the Hulk treatment. Hulk never got an origin story in the MCU - the Ang Lee movie wasn't part of the continuity. But, since his origin had been done on screen in recent memory, they just quietly ignored what happened in it while assuming the viewer saw it anyway.
His origins are familiar enough that they can be stuck into a 2 minute flashback scene at the beginning of Civil War or even an after-credits scene on Ant Man (assuming the rumor that he's apearing in Civil War first before his solo run), and the audience won't really question when he shows up.
The rest can be covered in a 2 minute conversation that I think Tony Stark would be ideal to fill in:
"New York, huh? Great town, love it. You know we - the Avengers - were uh... we were there a couple years ago. Could really have used somebody of your shall we say talents?"
"I was... uh.. in school."
"Oh, yes, of course, they didn't close school for that, just an alien invasion was all."
Oh...huh. I thought they jettisoned the Ang Lee movie but kept The Incredible Hulk, the one with Ed Norton in it. From what I've seen in the MCU, it dovetails with that film: Banner on the run somewhere in the world at the start of The Avengers, and even a comment about the Abomination as a bad choice for the Avengers made by Coulson in one of the side pieces of the MCU. Even the level of control Banner has over the Hulk form in the Avengers seems built off the last scene in The Incredible Hulk, where Banner is shown making progress.
Now that the deal has been struck, I actually expect Spidey to be mentioned in AoS first, as an "unregistered gifted" that they might have to keep tabs on but not actually pursue as such. It's easier to tweak things like that in a TV show under current production, after all. (Or who knows - they might actually have the actor guest on AoS to do the whole "origin story" thing, so he can appear as an established costumed hero in the movies.)
The Ang Lee movie, like I said, was not part of the MCU, but is the only one that handled the origin story. The MCU never gave Hulk an origin, it just assumed the viewer had seen the first movie while ignoring that it actually happened, giving an incompatible story about an existing Hulk struggling with his dual identity. The closest the MCU got to Hulk's origins was in the Avengers when Stark discussed the gamma ray dose with Banner, suggesting that "the other guy" had saved his life.
If the Ed Norton movie is actually an MCU element, even soft canon, it did have an origin, told in flashback. That version deliberately paralleled the look and feel of the origin in the old Bill Bixby/Lou Ferrigno TV version complete with a similar-looking gamma machine (which I thought was a great touch).
A Romulan Strike Team, Missing Farmers and an ancient base on a Klingon Border world. But what connects them? Find out in my First Foundary mission: 'The Jeroan Farmer Escapade'
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Again? Doh!
If they are going on with that pace Spiderman will be the first franchise with the very questionable honor of getting a reboot announced while the newest reboot is still in production :P
Gotta say, pleasantly surprised. He pulls off the snark pretty well. Put I still want to see some shy.
If you don't recognize Dom Fear, he's the kid behind the famous Lazer Collection animated series.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
And agree, a reboot isn't necessary. Not at all.
I feel the last thing spider man needs is another recast. I'd still love to see Maguire back in the role, but that's certainly not gonna happen (I kind of think the tone of the original movies matched far better with the mcu the new one).
Still not sure what's worst: A Spider-Man without an origin story or seeing that f*** origin story for the third time....
It'd actually be the fourth time if you want to count the 1977 movie.
Maybe more if you want to count each of the television series...
True, and yet it feels incomplete if there isn't an origin telling (anoying enough that the hulk hasn't one).
May be they should do that somehow in agents of shield or daredevil...
I prefer the route they took in the Incredible Hulk or Punisher: War Zone. Just skim over it in the opening credits using a montage sequence, or have a small part in the middle of the film where the audience is given a loose rundown of what the origin story actually is.
There can be an origin story in whatever comic media they want to have, they just aren't obligated to make it roughly half if not 75% of the movie.
I prefer the Alex Ross illustrated montage in the second Raimi film that went over what happened in the first movie. It was much more powerful and meaningful than a lot of people gave it credit for.