best cpatains..

torgaddon101 · January 2015

now as a fleet admiral picking a captain to run other ships.

1 archer.

2 kirk.

3.picard.

4 janeway.

5. Sisko.

6. Kang.

who would you have?

Unknown · January 2015

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ashstorm1 · January 2015

I think Martok deserves the honors too.

worffan101 · January 2015

0 (aka the untouchable position of pure perfection): Sulu, because George Takei. None can match him.

1. Picard by a hair.

2. The Sisko because he complements Picard perfectly and vice versa.

3. Kirk because he's awesome.

4. Garret, because I loved the Ent-C.

5. Ransom, because he was a realistic portrayal of a Captain in a terrible situation.

6. The Ent-B's Captain because incompetence.

7. Janeway for being a nutcase.

8. Archer for being beyond incompetent.

gfreeman98 · January 2015

James T. Kirk

gulberat · January 2015

Sisko
Sisko
Sisko
Sisko
Sisko

That was easy.

He has some gaping flaws but he is the only Trek commander I would actually trust as my superior officer.

starswordc · January 2015

Malcolm Reynolds. Female Paragade Shepard. John Sheridan. Sisko. Garm Bel Iblis. Matthew Gideon.

xancha · January 2015

Captain James T. Kirk

Spock

Janeway

Picard

Archer

iconians · January 2015

Solok. He was better at baseball than Sisko.

rosetyler51 · January 2015

Janeway all day everyday. The actions of her and Voyager is big part of STO.

Picard is a bald hippie

I'm pretty sure Kirk is the father of Hakeev

Outside of the monstrous acts done during the Dominion War Sisko is the only Prime Universe Starfleet officer I have seen perform the same thing that Mirror Kirk tried to do.

Spock was somewhat cool, for a vulcan anyway.

Kang lived and died with much honor and glory.

mjarbar · January 2015

Sisko for putting Q on his TRIBBLE, something Picard never did!

Spock, Scotty and Sulu we never saw enougth of them as captains for me to make a decision.

Picard was a diplomat so in a Starfleet ideal was very good.

Kirk and to some extent Riker led from the front the opposite of Picard.

Archer was finding things out by the seat of his pants as the saying goes so considering what he went up against and how he handled it, I feel he did a pretty solid job.

Janeway was a menace! and should have been thrown out of Starfleet not promoted.

I have always liked Kang and Kor as well, especally the DS9 episode where they and Jadzia went on one last mission, and also General Chang just because Christopher freaking Plumber!!!

So in the end I'd go for Sisko, uperty Bajorians, Dukat, the Dominion, Klingons and Romulans and cocky Vulcan captains who think they are better at baseball, he had to deal with the lot of them at the same time and without going postal and phasering everyone!!!

artan42 · January 2015

Sisko, in all ten slots.

vetteguy904 · January 2015

Sisko
Schran
Janeway (the only captain not to lose her ship)
Kirk
Kang
Kor
Koloth
Martok
Worf
La Forge

grandnaguszek1 · January 2015

1. Picard
2. Kirk
3. Dathon (Shaka when the walls fell)
4. Va'Kel Shon
5. Sisko
6. Archer
7. Kurland (only to annoy the enemy by saying "Kurland here!")
8. Spock
9. Riker
10. Janeway

worffan101 · January 2015

For my Fleet of Non-Federation Types, to hunt down Janeway and Archer for being a nut job and a narcissistic incompetent, respectively, I choose this dream team:

1. Shran. Beats up Archer, the oafish little pinkskin...

2. Dahar Master Kang. Only a fool fights in a burning house.

3. KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing can match the Pecs of Perfection.

4. Dahar Master Kor. Because when the going gets tough, the Klingons throw caution and sense to the wind and run in screaming. And win by sheer audacity.

5. Commander Donatra, because K'Ehlyr was Federation and I need someone hot on the team because Rule of Sexy.

6. Elim "Just a simple tailor" Garak. Need I say more?

7. Legate Damar. For Cardassia!

legendarylycan · January 2015

worffan101 wrote: »

1. Picard by a hair.

what hair?

worffan101 · January 2015

shadowfang240 wrote: »

what hair?

That was the joke. He has no hair, yet he beats the Sisko by one (because I'm a fan of diplomatic solutions, and I'd want Picard in charge of the Federation while the Sisko ran Starfleet's military operations). It's a tiny difference; Picard wins because I'd pick him slightly over Sisko in most cases, but I'd greatly prefer the both of them working together and being badass, because that would make them that much more effective.

marcusdkane · January 2015

worffan101 wrote: »

That was the joke. He has no hair, yet he beats the Sisko by one (because I'm a fan of diplomatic solutions, and I'd want Picard in charge of the Federation while the Sisko ran Starfleet's military operations). It's a tiny difference; Picard wins because I'd pick him slightly over Sisko in most cases, but I'd greatly prefer the both of them working together and being badass, because that would make them that much more effective.

I'd modify that slightly, to specify Picard in charge of the Federation (as in the President) and Sisko as an active officer...

Although I would admit, I know people try and say that Picard changed in First Contact into a commando, but there was evidence of that previously during TNG's run, most notably, the episode where Beverley was kidnapped by some terrorists, and when they used their subspace transporter (or whatever it was) to beam onto the bridge of the Enterprise, Picard jumped the leader and decked him, thus getting carried with the transporter. Another example was in a later season where terrorists wanted to steal trilithium resin while the ship underwent a baryon sweep, leaving Picard to go all Die Hard on them, and doing a pretty good job of it, so to be fair, even though I'd put him as the Federation's brain, with Sisko as the muscle, Picard did know how to handle himself when the situation called for it :cool:

worffan101 · January 2015

marcusdkane wrote: »

I'd modify that slightly, to specify Picard in charge of the Federation (as in the President) and Sisko as an active officer...

Exactly my point. Picard's the carrot, The Sisko's the stick.

marcusdkane wrote: »

Although I would admit, I know people try and say that Picard changed in First Contact into a commando, but there was evidence of that previously during TNG's run, most notably, the episode where Beverley was kidnapped by some terrorists, and when they used their subspace transporter (or whatever it was) to beam onto the bridge of the Enterprise, Picard jumped the leader and decked him, thus getting carried with the transporter. Another example was in a later season where terrorists wanted to steal trilithium resin while the ship underwent a baryon sweep, leaving Picard to go all Die Hard on them, and doing a pretty good job of it, so to be fair, even though I'd put him as the Federation's brain, with Sisko as the muscle, Picard did know how to handle himself when the situation called for it :cool:

Also well said. Even leaving aside the sheer lunacy of Nemesis, Picard had the balls to resist Cardassian interrogation and torture, was assimilated and liberated with only mild post-traumatic stress instead of becoming a gibbering wreck despite the fact that he was the FIRST person in the UFP to get Borg tech dug out of his head, and he once took out an elite Klingon assassin and almost got the other when they ambushed him on Qo'noS. He has balls of STEEL, The Sisko's just more willing to use his.

But both are badass, for sure. Picard just goes for sheer willpower over tactical command and fighting prowess.

ddesjardins · January 2015

Ok. Forgive the commentary:

#10 - Janeway, Captain USS Voyager
Poorly written, under utilized, and she made space salamander babies with Paris.

#9 - Bateson, Captain USS Bozeman
Only slightly better than Janeway only because he was played by Fraser.

#8 - Archer, USS Enterprise
Old softy. Never made me believe they were in jeopardy.

#7 - Garret, Captain USS Enterprise C
This was the character Janeway was supposed to have been.

#6 - Garth of Izar, Fleet Captain USS Ares
Not the crazy Garth, but the Garth from the upcoming AXANAR. Check out Prelude to Axanar on Youtube. oops, I paused to rewatch it again.

#5 - Wesley, Commodore USS Lexington
From the Ultimate Computer. Badass dude.

#4 - Jellico, Captain USS Cairo, USS Enterprise D
Another badass dude. Pushed Riker around to great effect. LOVED HIM.

#3 - Kirk, USS Enterprsie D
Space babes, Gorn, Salt Vampires and Time Travel OH MY.

#2 - Picard, Captain USS Enterprises D,E
"We have engaged the Borg." Inner Light. Nuff said.

#1 - Sisko, Captain USS Defiant
If my life was on the line and I had one Captain to choose, Sisko would be it. In the Pale Moonlight - one of the best hours of television from the series.

marcusdkane · January 2015

worffan101 wrote: »

Exactly my point. Picard's the carrot, The Sisko's the stick.

Ahh, I misunderstood your point, and thought you would have had Picard in Quinn's position, rather than Overall Above the military

worffan101 wrote: »

Also well said. Even leaving aside the sheer lunacy of Nemesis, Picard had the balls to resist Cardassian interrogation and torture, was assimilated and liberated with only mild post-traumatic stress instead of becoming a gibbering wreck despite the fact that he was the FIRST person in the UFP to get Borg tech dug out of his head, and he once took out an elite Klingon assassin and almost got the other when they ambushed him on Qo'noS. He has balls of STEEL, The Sisko's just more willing to use his.

But both are badass, for sure. Picard just goes for sheer willpower over tactical command and fighting prowess.

I wonder if the fact he was the first, actually made it easier for him, where later recovered individuals get Treated Differently, which likely only makes them feel worse... Equally, let's not forget, Mad Kathy had herself, Tuvok and B'Elanna assimilated, and they had absolutely Zero aftereffects at all... Now that's not saying that I would want to be assimilated, but I think I'd rather be assimilated instead of being ***** and tortured by Cardassians... :eek:

Picard definitely had A Set on him, he just had the brains to use other options as well, but when pushed, he definitely still knew how to use them (ie when Beverley was taken)

worffan101 · January 2015

marcusdkane wrote: »

Ahh, I misunderstood your point, and thought you would have had Picard in Quinn's position, rather than Overall Above the military

No, Picard would be wasted in Quinn's job. You need Picard to make grand peace deals and act as Arbiter of Succession to the Klingons, not just hang around promoting teenagers.

marcusdkane wrote: »

I wonder if the fact he was the first, actually made it easier for him, where later recovered individuals get Treated Differently, which likely only makes them feel worse... Equally, let's not forget, Mad Kathy had herself, Tuvok and B'Elanna assimilated, and they had absolutely Zero aftereffects at all... Now that's not saying that I would want to be assimilated, but I think I'd rather be assimilated instead of being ***** and tortured by Cardassians... :eek:

Picard definitely had A Set on him, he just had the brains to use other options as well, but when pushed, he definitely still knew how to use them (ie when Beverley was taken)

I definitely agree with the second paragraph...on the first one, it should be noted that Chuck "SFDebris" Sonnenburg started doing his VOY reviews because of just how terrible "Unimatrix Zero" really is.

I mean, I get angry at Janeway for attempted and negligent genocide, and for using the Prime Directive as an excuse to metaphorically kick a baby into unconsciousness and run away while shouting that she can't interfere with the natural process of nature, but "Unimatrix Zero" shatters canon so utterly that I can only understand it as Crazy Parody Janeway's fever dream of getting a drone army. I mean, the Borg Queen is so far beyond merely stupid in that episode, it's not even funny. Then there's the matter of going up against a ship that makes the Wolf 359 cube look like a fighter in an unsupported LRSV t4 with the Captain, ChENG, and main tactical officer missing, and winning. That's like a 3-year-old picking up Dwayne Johnson and throwing him across a room. Voyager should've been instantly disabled, boarded, and assimilated within minutes.

The entire episode isn't just Plot Armor, it's Plot Superman Powers. Without Kryptonite.

I generally treat "Unimatrix Zero" like "Threshold" and ignore it.

Anyway, I've gotta say that the assimilation is worse, because at least the Cardassians don't completely remove your identity and use your body to attack and assimilate your own people. IMO, Riker's ordering Worf to fire on the Wolf 359 cube? Mercy kill. And completely justified at that.

I preferred the TNG Borg, because they're like the ones in Hive Elite, where only the guys from DPS-Prime can beat it with ease. VOY Borg are like the ones in old ISN, where anyone and his uncle could fly off like Captain Kirk and obliterate them with laughable ease. Haven't seen a Cosmic Faceplant like that since the Kazon made a mockery of themselves in their first onscreen appearance.

organicmanfred · January 2015

1. Janeway

2. Archer

3. Kirk

4. France man

5. Benjamin "I dont understand a word he says" Sisko

akpa · January 2015

Jean-Luc Picard! Imo he is the less hypocrite man from Star Trek universe.

worffan101 · January 2015

reyan01 wrote: »

Completely agree, although personally feel that it was First Contact that ruined the Borg. Their proverbial slide downhill started with the introduction of the Borg Queen. They were MUCH more effective prior to that mistake.

If the Borg Queen had stayed a CPU, an incarnation of the Collective...she would've been malevolently cool and so would the Borg.

"Unimatrix Zero", fully separating Queen from Collective, was where it really failed utterly.

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marcusdkane · January 2015

reyan01 wrote: »

Frankly, Mad Kathy was lucky that neither herself Tuvok or B'Elanna had an arm/leg/eye etc removed as part of the assimilation process.

They were lucky to have such powerful plot-armor.

Very lucky

marcusdkane · January 2015

worffan101 wrote: »

No, Picard would be wasted in Quinn's job. You need Picard to make grand peace deals and act as Arbiter of Succession to the Klingons, not just hang around promoting teenagers.

For sure, I just misunderstood your placement of Picard

worffan101 wrote: »

I definitely agree with the second paragraph...on the first one, it should be noted that Chuck "SFDebris" Sonnenburg started doing his VOY reviews because of just how terrible "Unimatrix Zero" really is.

I mean, I get angry at Janeway for attempted and negligent genocide, and for using the Prime Directive as an excuse to metaphorically kick a baby into unconsciousness and run away while shouting that she can't interfere with the natural process of nature, but "Unimatrix Zero" shatters canon so utterly that I can only understand it as Crazy Parody Janeway's fever dream of getting a drone army. I mean, the Borg Queen is so far beyond merely stupid in that episode, it's not even funny. Then there's the matter of going up against a ship that makes the Wolf 359 cube look like a fighter in an unsupported LRSV t4 with the Captain, ChENG, and main tactical officer missing, and winning. That's like a 3-year-old picking up Dwayne Johnson and throwing him across a room. Voyager should've been instantly disabled, boarded, and assimilated within minutes.

The entire episode isn't just Plot Armor, it's Plot Superman Powers. Without Kryptonite.

I generally treat "Unimatrix Zero" like "Threshold" and ignore it.

Sadly, canon is canon

But with regards the boldened point, Hugo Danner* could have done that

*The Hugo Danner who appears in my writing is an homage to Gladiator in general, and a 'very normal' version of his namesake ^_^

worffan101 wrote: »

Anyway, I've gotta say that the assimilation is worse, because at least the Cardassians don't completely remove your identity and use your body to attack and assimilate your own people. IMO, Riker's ordering Worf to fire on the Wolf 359 cube? Mercy kill. And completely justified at that.

I preferred the TNG Borg, because they're like the ones in Hive Elite, where only the guys from DPS-Prime can beat it with ease. VOY Borg are like the ones in old ISN, where anyone and his uncle could fly off like Captain Kirk and obliterate them with laughable ease. Haven't seen a Cosmic Faceplant like that since the Kazon made a mockery of themselves in their first onscreen appearance.

Gotta disagree with you there, in so much as the removal of identity not only removes culpability from the assimilated individual, but also awareness of the situation itself which I would consider a better alternative than being brutalised by Cardassians and being aware of it... When the Cardassians came to return Picard to the Federation, at the end of Chain of Command, the look of disgust which they gave to Gul Madred, showed that he had gone way beyond what was considered acceptable conduct... Now of course, I wouldn't want to be assimilated, but I would prefer it to 'Cardassian Hospitality'... Equally, I doubt Riker's order carried any mercy on his part, simply resolve to bring down The Enemy...

sabrevt1100 · January 2015

Kirk. Interpreting the Prime Directive to suit the situation. Never afraid to go down to Knuckle Junction if necessary, making computers blow themselves up, nailing space babes no matter the species, ear boxing Gorn, hanging with Abe Lincoln, asking why God needs a starship, flying drop kicks, could scream while having the salt sucked from his body, Pledge of Allegiance, busting up the Earps at the OK Corral. He did it all.

starswordc · January 2015

marcusdkane wrote: »

Gotta disagree with you there, in so much as the removal of identity not only removes culpability from the assimilated individual, but also awareness of the situation itself which I would consider a better alternative than being brutalised by Cardassians and being aware of it... When the Cardassians came to return Picard to the Federation, at the end of Chain of Command, the look of disgust which they gave to Gul Madred, showed that he had gone way beyond what was considered acceptable conduct... Now of course, I wouldn't want to be assimilated, but I would prefer it to 'Cardassian Hospitality'... Equally, I doubt Riker's order carried any mercy on his part, simply resolve to bring down The Enemy...

Honestly, I think any time you kill a Borg drone when there's no practical way to rescue them, it's a mercy kill.

marcusdkane · January 2015

starswordc wrote: »

Honestly, I think any time you kill a Borg drone when there's no practical way to rescue them, it's a mercy kill.

Yes, we know that now, but at the time, Riker did not, so his actions have to be viewed in historical context, rather than contemporary wisdom

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