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bad actor

koomerskoomers Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited January 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
as it is, logged off for a bit now see 2ndary deflector advertised when log in ... seems a pure cash grab. liked the game before they killed it several months ago. refuse to spend any cash on this TRIBBLE anymore. is there any way to get the intellectual property into better hands?
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  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Admiral Tuvok, the universal translators are offline again.
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  • rahmkota19rahmkota19 Member Posts: 1,929 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    chiyoumiku wrote: »
    Admiral Tuvok, the universal translators are offline again.

    I think that this maybe is a rant that we won't get a free secondary deflector when we receive the slot in a few days?


    If so, I would hardly call spending 50k ec a "cash grab". And if you don't want to get those deflectors, your ship won't perform worse suddenly without having them.
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  • fatman592fatman592 Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Secondary defectors would barely qualify as a cash grab when compared to the R&D and upgrade systems. Or selling copy pasted T5 ships at T6...
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  • koomerskoomers Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    fantastic , so , you approve of the star trek (game) intellectucual property in present hands ?
  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I haven't seen a secondary deflector on Tribble that would improve my current Wells build.

    It's not worth ranting about, OP. Just ignore the whole thing. Life's too short to get upset over stuff that won't even have a tangible benefit for a well-built Science ship.
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  • killer1986chriskiller1986chris Member Posts: 382 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Something promised that players wanted, with an EC option is a cash grab? OP, please put some effort into your troll attempts in the future.
  • gonaliusgonalius Member Posts: 893 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Ignoring the rant for a moment, what in the name of Kirk's big toenail has that got to do with the thread title 'bad actor'?
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,162 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Is this a movement to have kurkland removed from power? :O
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  • koomerskoomers Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    ok , TRIBBLE the 2ndary deflector
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    killer1986chris wrote: »
    Something promised that players wanted, with an EC option is a cash grab? OP, please put some effort into your troll attempts in the future.

    by just being on the game, one more number in an artificial number count to the PWE taskmasters, it would be enough to justify keeping the $$$ rolling in.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    koomers wrote: »
    as it is, logged off for a bit now see 2ndary deflector advertised when log in ... seems a pure cash grab. liked the game before they killed it several months ago. refuse to spend any cash on this TRIBBLE anymore. is there any way to get the intellectual property into better hands?
    What does spending ECs have to do with spending cash? ECs are an in-game currency. Telling me I have to spend 50,000 ECs for a Secondary Deflector is like telling me I have to spend 50,000 ECs on the Exchange for a new Boff or Doff. It is meaningless. It is what you do with in-game currencies: you buy stuff to improve your character.

    If they told me the only way to get Secondary Deflectors was to pay $20.00 I could see the gripe. Telling me it cost 50,000 ECs is equivalent to me selling 1 Mission's drops upon completion.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • koomerskoomers Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    fantastic , so , you approve of the star trek (game) intellectucual property in present hands ?
  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    koomers wrote: »
    fantastic , so , you approve of the star trek (game) intellectucual property in present hands ?

    If the Star Trek IP gets removed from Cryptic this game shuts down.

    I like this game. I hope it gets back on the correct path soon.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    koomers wrote: »
    fantastic , so , you approve of the star trek (game) intellectucual property in present hands ?
    It is not up to use to approve or disapprove. It is CBS's job to decide if Cryptic is doing right or wrong with the IP. We are the consumers. Our job is to play it or not play it. That is what being a consumer does: it gives us free will to decide where and how we wish to spend our money on a product.

    But none of that has anything to do with Secondary Deflectors being a cash grab. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    koomers wrote: »
    fantastic , so , you approve of the star trek (game) intellectucual property in present hands ?

    LOL. As much as ppl hate all the money-grubbing, it never ceases to amaze me how certain people just think they can push a few manipulative buttons like this, and then expect everyone to blindly rally around them.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    koomers wrote: »
    fantastic , so , you approve of the star trek (game) intellectucual property in present hands ?

    Yup, I do.

    I would prefer if the Star Trek (TV Shows) intellectual property was in more.. active hands.
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    The OP probably thought a misleading title would draw less people willing to blow holes in his flawed argument.

    He must be new here, we find them all.

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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    I would prefer if the Star Trek (TV Shows) intellectual property was in more.. active hands.
    Yeah, seriously. If I were going to complain about the IP I would be far more inclined to complain about why there has been no TV show for a decade or about JJ's re-writes of some of Trek's history. Complaining about a game which is not even canon just seems foolish.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • koomerskoomers Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    yesterday , today or tomorrow cash grab not so importatant. for several years we played with out cash grabs. now? where to go?

    It is up to us to play or not play, but thx (thecosmic1) , it is also up to us to approve. what else are we cognizant for ?

    where to go now? intellectucual property in present hands ? is what ? better to start over ?
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    koomers wrote: »
    yesterday , today or tomorrow cash grab not so importatant. for several years we played with out cash grabs. now? where to go?
    What game were you playing? STO has had a C-Store since Day 1. The moment they added the Excelsior to the C-Store it became a cash grab. The Excelsior was the best Combat Cruiser in the game for years. If you wanted to be the best you had to spend money. Every ship added has only increased that.
    It is up to us to play or not play, but thx (thecosmic1) , it is also up to us to approve. what else are we cognizant for ?
    No. It is up to use to decide whether we wish to spend or not. :)
    where to go now? intellectucual property in present hands ? is what ? better to start over ?
    Then go and play other Trek games. I playtested Alien Domain in December. Maybe that game will be more to your liking when it comes out.

    It is fine to not like STO. But you also need to understand that you do not need to play STO. Saying "I do not like it and will not play it" is not the same thing as saying "I do not like it so it should be shut down." One is a personal choice. The other is deciding for thousands of others.

    Stop treating STO like a drug: people are addicted and cannot stop even though they hate it. It is not a drug. It is a game. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    What game were you playing? STO has had a C-Store since Day 1. The moment they added the Excelsior to the C-Store it became a cash grab. The Excelsior was the best Combat Cruiser in the game for years. If you wanted to be the best you had to spend money. Every ship added has only increased that.
    And it took until F2P before you could convert game-money into cash-shop-money, so until then, it was basically P2W - if you didn't spend money yourself, you could never have the best toys.
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  • koomerskoomers Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    thx (thecosmic1) for input , regarding first point and

    Originally Posted by koomers View Post
    yesterday , today or tomorrow cash grab not so importatant. for several years we played with out cash grabs. now? where to go?

    first several years of game cash grab was chicken **** compared (to last 6 mos?) since crafting change. and probably t6 ships as well. please do review.
  • koomerskoomers Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    regarding second point: it is up to us to approve as well as to decide to play. who knows who? who says what and public opinion and violence play a role.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    koomers wrote: »
    first several years of game cash grab was chicken **** compared (to last 6 mos?) since crafting change. and probably t6 ships as well. please do review.
    Here is the thing. 3+ months after DR and I still only have 5 MK XIII pieces on my Sovereign - and I did not pay money to get them. I have no Mk XIV pieces and no Epic pieces. I am still doing Advanced and Elite content with my existing ship using the same Mk XII gear I had gotten before DR. Crafting has not changed anything for me. I had a 12,000+ DPS build pre-DR and I have a 12,000+ DPS build post-DR.

    I see all these fools rushing in to get MK XIV gear thinking it is going to change everything when all the changes they need to make have nothing to do with gear. It is all about simply understanding your ship build a little better. The guys doing 3,000 DPS are only going to do 4,000 DPS with Epic gear. They are still going to fail at Advanced and Elite Content even after they go Epic.

    The people who feel compelled to spend are only fooling themselves. In STO how you build is far more important then what you build with. If people would understand that they would save themselves at lot of moaning. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • blassreiterusblassreiterus Member Posts: 1,294 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    koomers wrote: »
    as it is, logged off for a bit now see 2ndary deflector advertised when log in ... seems a pure cash grab. liked the game before they killed it several months ago. refuse to spend any cash on this TRIBBLE anymore. is there any way to get the intellectual property into better hands?
    Sorry you have had such a terrible time with this game... maybe this game was never something you'd want to play.
    koomers wrote: »
    it is also up to us to approve. what else are we cognizant for ?

    where to go now? intellectucual property in present hands ? is what ? better to start over ?
    Wrong, we, as players, have absolutely no power to change what Cryptic is doing. The only thing we can do (if people want to do it) is stop playing. If that's what you want to do, go right ahead.

    Also, the IP isn't going anywhere.
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  • koomerskoomers Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    thx for info , was wondering if ip would go anywhere
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    koomers wrote: »
    thx for info , was wondering if ip would go anywhere
    The current license lasts into 2018. At that point CBS and Cryptic get to negotiate for an extension. Until then it is not going anywhere.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • killer1986chriskiller1986chris Member Posts: 382 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    koomers wrote: »
    thx for info , was wondering if ip would go anywhere

    Considering CBS can license games out to anyone they feel, no.
  • koomerskoomers Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    (thecosmic1) thx for info . the situation you describe where one player can get 12k and another 4k from simple stuff is an idiotic situation, but nothing to do with topic. thx.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    killer1986chris wrote: »
    Considering CBS can license games out to anyone they feel, no.
    Exactly. They gave a license for Infinite Space. They gave a license for Timelines. They gave a license for Alien Domain. The existence of STO does not stop CBS from giving other game companies a license to make other games.

    STO does not need to be gone for there to be other Star Trek games.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    koomers wrote: »
    (thecosmic1) thx for info . the situation you describe where one player can get 12k and another 4k from simple stuff is an idiotic situation, but nothing to do with topic. thx.
    Actually it has everything to do with the topic. If you can complete the objectives with existing gear then you have no need to get better gear. Thus you have no need to spend money on Crafting Upgrades. You can simply take your time and get the Upgrades free, like I do. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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