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  • painfullylargepainfullylarge Member Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    So let me get this straight.

    4 Ship Modules to purchase Fleet Recon Science Vessel

    1 Ship Upgrade Token to make it T5U

    and STO gives me the middle finger on having a 2ndary deflector?

    Yeah. STO doesn't care about science vessels or the people who fly them. That much is ABUNDANTLY clear.
  • royalsovereignroyalsovereign Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    So let me get this straight.

    4 Ship Modules to purchase Fleet Recon Science Vessel

    1 Ship Upgrade Token to make it T5U

    and STO gives me the middle finger on having a 2ndary deflector?

    Yeah. STO doesn't care about science vessels or the people who fly them. That much is ABUNDANTLY clear.

    From the Dev Blog:
    DevBlog wrote:
    To fully support this feature, all Science Vessels (other than the Light Science Vessel) will now have a Secondary Deflector Slot. A good general rule of thumb is that if the ship has both Sensor Analysis and Subsystem Targeting, it will have a Secondary Deflector slot. This slot will be awarded to all new and existing Science Vessels.
    Your Fleet Recon Science Vessel will get the slot, so how exactly are you "getting the middle finger"? Just because you won't automagically be gifted a Mark X Common version of the deflector that you'll likely toss in the garbage immediately anyway?
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  • painfullylargepainfullylarge Member Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    From the Dev Blog:

    Your Fleet Recon Science Vessel will get the slot, so how exactly are you "getting the middle finger"? Just because you won't automagically be gifted a Mark X Common version of the deflector that you'll likely toss in the garbage immediately anyway?

    Q: Will my existing science ship automatically receive a Secondary Deflector?
    A: No. However, any newly claimed Science ships will receive a Secondary Deflector. Alternatively, you can purchase a common Secondary Deflector from any energy credit starship equipment vendor
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    Yeah, I don't think so.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,661 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    You DO GET the SLOT on your ship, it is just empty.

    So you have to spend 0 CREDITS if you want a common one. I hope you have a spare 0 credits to spend.
  • atlmyklatlmykl Member Posts: 305 Arc User1
    edited January 2015
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    Yeah, I don't think so.

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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Heh, the breen carrier gets one.
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  • raptor63549raptor63549 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I feel as though deteriorating and inhibiting deflectors seem kind of redundant.

    They both apply damage, they just do it in different ways. I expected the healing SecDefs to buff healing or resists and such, but I was expecting the other two to be a bit more varied.

    The Solanae SecDef is the kind of stuff I was expecting, it heals your shields whenever you use drains, so I was hoping for inventive stuff like that on the generic ones. Holds cause system failure or make you go faster, particle gen skills debuffing target resistance, etc. At the very least, as much as more damage is nice, that two of the three SecDefs do damage is a profound lack of variety.
  • vengefuldjinnvengefuldjinn Member Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    Heh, the breen carrier gets one.

    It DOES?! If so does the Recluse get one too?
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  • darthlogicdarthlogic Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Good job reading the edit... next time don't shoot your mouth off so fast and be so quick to be condescending. :)

    I agree!! People, stop the verbal vomit. Don't be so disrespectful of people just because this is the internet. I see allot of badmouthing of the devs and the game in general as well, which makes me sick (virtually speaking).

    I applaud the further development of sci abilities with these new sec deflectors. I look forward to their arrivals! :)
  • bougebouge Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    The following Science ships now come with a Secondary Deflector slot:

    Advanced Research Vessel
    Advanced Research Vessel Retrofit
    Advanced Research Vessel Retrofit [T5-U]
    Deep Space Science Vessel
    Draguas Support Vessel
    Dyson Battle Science Destroyer
    Dyson Battle Science Destroyer [T5-U]
    Dyson Command Science Destroyer
    Dyson Command Science Destroyer [T5-U]
    Dyson Reconnaissance Science Destroyer
    Dyson Reconnaissance Science Destroyer [T5-U]
    Dyson Science Destroyer
    Dyson Science Destroyer [T5-U]
    Dyson Strategic Science Destroyer
    Dyson Strategic Science Destroyer [T5-U]
    Dyson Surveillance Science Destroyer
    Dyson Surveillance Science Destroyer [T5-U]
    Dyson Tactical Science Destroyer
    Dyson Tactical Science Destroyer [T5-U]
    Experimental Science Vessel [T6]
    Fleet Advanced Research Vessel Retrofit
    Fleet Advanced Research Vessel Retrofit [T5-U]
    Fleet Deep Space Science Vessel
    Fleet Deep Space Science Vessel [T5-U]
    Fleet Experimental Science Vessel
    Fleet Ha'nom Guardian Warbird
    Fleet Ha'nom Guardian Warbird [T5-U]
    Fleet Long Range Science Vessel Retrofit
    Fleet Long Range Science Vessel Retrofit [T5-U]
    Fleet Reconnaissance Science Vessel
    Fleet Reconnaissance Science Vessel [T5-U]
    Fleet Research Science Vessel Retrofit
    Fleet Research Science Vessel Retrofit [T5-U]
    Fleet Science Vessel Retrofit
    Fleet Science Vessel Retrofit [T5-U]
    Ha'nom Guardian Warbird
    Korath Temporal Science Vessel
    Korath Temporal Science Vessel [T5-U]
    Long Range Science Vessel
    Long Range Science Vessel [T6]
    Long Range Science Vessel Refit
    Long Range Science Vessel Retrofit
    Long Range Science Vessel Retrofit [T5-U]
    Mirror Deep Space Science Vessel
    Mirror Ha'nom Guardian Warbird
    Mirror Reconnaissance Science Vessel
    Mirror Science Vessel Retrofit
    Multi-Mission Reconnaissance Explorer
    Multi-Mission Reconnaissance Explorer [T5-U]
    Multi-Mission Strategic Explorer
    Multi-Mission Strategic Explorer [T5-U]
    Multi-Mission Surveillance Explorer
    Multi-Mission Surveillance Explorer [T5-U]
    Phalanx Science Vessel
    Reconnaissance Science Vessel
    Research Science Vessel
    Research Science Vessel Retrofit
    R'Mor Temporal Science Vessel
    R'Mor Temporal Science Vessel [T5-U]
    Science Vessel
    Science Vessel Refit
    Science Vessel Retrofit
    Scryer Intel Science Vessel [T6]
    Tholian Orb Weaver
    Tholian Orb Weaver [T5-U]
    Varanus Fleet Support Vessel
    Varanus Fleet Support Vessel [T5-U]
    Varanus Support Vessel
    Voth Palisade Science Vessel
    Voth Palisade Science Vessel [T5-U]
    Vulcan D'Kyr Science Vessel
    Vulcan D'Kyr Science Vessel [T5-U]
    Wells Temporal Science Vessel
    Wells Temporal Science Vessel [T5-U]

    what's with the list from the jan 29th dev notes ?
    lotta science vessels missing in that list

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  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    bouge wrote: »
    what's with the list from the jan 29th dev notes ?
    lotta science vessels missing in that list

    -Bouge

    no, i see all 3 kdf sci ships there.
  • bougebouge Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    isnt the talwar a science ship
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  • blassreiterusblassreiterus Member Posts: 1,294 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    bouge wrote: »
    isnt the talwar a science ship
    Does the Talwar have Subsystem targetting and Sensor Analysis? If it doesn't then it won't get the secondary deflector slot.
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  • steaensteaen Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Sooooo....I have a T5-U Multi-Mission Strategic Explorer as per the list...but it has no secondary deflector slot listed.

    Have I missed either how to get one/where it is, or when we're meant to get them?
  • steaensteaen Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    steaen wrote: »
    Sooooo....I have a T5-U Multi-Mission Strategic Explorer as per the list...but it has no secondary deflector slot listed.

    Have I missed either how to get one/where it is, or when we're meant to get them?

    I moved map and the slot appeared.

    I'll shut up now.
  • barimanforumsbarimanforums Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Wasn't it Jonathan Archer who first said "can anyone remember when we were explorers?"

    Nope. The was Patrick Sterward (Picard) in Star Trek: First Contact.
  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2015
    Nope. The was Patrick Sterward (Picard) in Star Trek: First Contact.

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  • ussprometheus79ussprometheus79 Member Posts: 727 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I was curious if the Atrox may have gotten this given the sci heavy focus. Guess not.
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  • battykoda0battykoda0 Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Fleet Science Vessel Retrofit T5-U has no secondary deflector slot.

    EDIT: It appeared when I changed zones.
    Wow. There is a new KDF Science ship. I'll be!
  • dragnridrdragnridr Member Posts: 671 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I thought that science vessels with subsystem targeting was supposed to get secondary deflectors, and since the Atrox is SCIENCE based, and has subsystem targeting, why no secondary deflector for. Cryptic needs to either have ALL science based ships have secondary deflectors or none of them.

    The Sar Theln should also have a secondary deflector since it is also science based.
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Do you also have Sensor Analysis on those ships? I don't have those ships so that is an honest question.

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  • ravinravin Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Yep, have to have sensor analysis too.
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  • pweistheworstpweistheworst Member Posts: 986 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Is this supposed to have happened yet?

    If so, I've got a problem because only half of the science ships on my FED science toon have a secondary deflector.

    No secondary deflector on my Wells Temporal Science Vessle (T5-U)
    No secondary deflector on my Fleet Deep Space Science Vessel (T5-U)
    No secondary deflector on my Multi-Mission Reconnaissance Explorer (T5-U)
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,661 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Did you try changing zones with the ship? That is part of the magic needed to make them appear.
  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    You get the slot for the secondary, not the deflector itself.

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  • cookiecrookcookiecrook Member Posts: 4,541 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Is it possible to have this Secondary Deflector slot moved to being next to the Deflector Slot? With it being below, it puts any ship with a hangar, like my Vesta, with the hangar overlapping the button at the bottom of the window.
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