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Since the queues I need for marks are dead, can we make marks account bound?
inthefluxx
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I have an account bank, and would really like to be able to utilize it to transfer marks in between my alts.
Cryptic makes money, because more players will buy either lifetime subs or will buy an account bank.
Cryptic makes money, because more players will buy either lifetime subs or will buy an account bank.
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Omega: defera provides
Nukara: nukara provides
Romulan: tau dewa and new Romulus provide
Dyson: the dyson sphere provides
8472/counter command: the dyson sphere provides
Delta: the delta patrols and kobali provide
If you are looking for the special items then Borg neural processors and ancient power cells are!the only hard ones and they can be found in the daily/hourly boxes. You do not *need* queues.
Technically queues aren't but the boxes have an abysmal drop rate for the currencies.
Delta doesn't even give you any APCs for hitting T5 unlike Omega.
Delta gives 32k dilithium, omega only gives 8k
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=19923761#post19923761
Elite versions for Nukara transdimentional, Undine infiltration, defend Defend Rh'Ihho Station and Bug Hunt are not dead. In fact i'd say they're thriving. Longest wait i have had for these is 2 minutes max.
Only the borg queues are slowing down and that may simply be due to the fact that people are drowning in omega marks already. I know i have more than 20k of them
Being able to transfer marks would be nice, but not for the reason you mentioned.
Omega gives you BNPs at T5. Delta doesn't give any APCs at T5.
Queues are the only* way for people to get them.
*as people concerned with being effectively correct over technically correct would see it.
We all know that you love cryptic more than you love anything else, but no one can deny that thouse queues are dead.. not even the king of the white Knights.
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Get your head examined already. PUG are perfectly fine. These so called elite channels have long been obsolete.
I'm cryptic's white knight now? Or do you prefer the term "Personal brown nosed person". Either way it does not change the fact that i can do the elite nukara, bug hunt, undine infiltration and elachi station queues back to back with no problem.
I usually make 5600 dil in an hour and that is without exchanging excess marks.
The only queues which are slow are the borg ones and the elite space queues.
I've been playing these exact missions on elite the past 2 weeks very often. The avg wait is less than 1 minute. Yes, many queues are dead, but not the ones mentioned here.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Telling someone to get stuff like APCs from Daily/Hourly Boxes is as stupid as you can get. The Daily/Hourly Boxes are NOT a guarantee to get the tokens because you're more likely to get something else than a rep token.
Voth Ground BZ and 8472 Space BZ give you those tokens. APCs are attainable on Kobali Prime just once, and repeated ventures yield no more.
Depending on the Rep, you need to do the queues, and even then, to get rep tokens, you need to do Advanced or Elite.
You're going to anger the technically correct crowd.
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Sure it does. I've done exactly enough to get T5 rep (Not cashed it in yet as I'm waiting for the dil weekend), and received two or three so far. Sure its slow and a terrible way to get them, but it can be done.
your wait for that dil weekend will end in quite a disappointment. however at least you got those 2 apc's from boxes - woooo!!
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
If you were any more obtuse you'd be a line.
Omega gives 10* BNPs at T5. Enough for two pieces of gear.
Delta, at T5, gives 0, zero, zilch, nada, none, APCs at T5.
I got one APC on my unsponsored journey to Delta T5. One. Fat load of good that did.
And as Sheldon said, rep Dil boxes aren't affected by Dil bonus weekends anymore. Or event boxes.
*IIRC
I was referring to PublicEliteSTF, not EliteSTF. PublicEliteSTF is public and open for all, while EliteSTF is gated and from my understanding dead. The DPS channels are very active all day every day, but they are gated.
Also, you can consider something like the Starfleet Battles channel.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1026351
And, I'm not saying this is your only option. There are plenty of alternatives to waiting on the queue.
...but they're nowhere near equal.
But nobody has...that I've ever seen. No matter how many times somebody drops out the "stupid" comment, I've never seen it in reply to somebody that actually said what was being replied to...
I'm... what... Sure, you can carry pugs through stuff like ISA, but pugs are still pretty abysmal. Some queues require teamwork, and most of the advanced/elite queues require a good enough ship build to make it so that a pug team won't make it. Please, get a reality check.
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I'd refer you to the very first reply here.
For ease, this is what was said:
You need the queues for some of the rep.
I refer you to read what you quoted...where what you're complaining about was never said.
That the BNP/APCs out of boxes can be a terrible way to get them...does not mean they are not a way to get them. Since they are a way to get them...then the queues are not needed.
There was no suggestion that people do that...only that it was a possible means of doing it. And thus again...the queues are not needed.
Most PUG can already do the advanced queues without difficulties and their proficiency increases each day.
The only barrier i currently see for PUG are the elite space queues, but that is simply because there are too few people in PUG to get acquainted with those missions.
There was a culture shock when DR hit, but ever since the NPC hitpoints have been brought down while average DPS slowly but steadily rises as people progress through the specializations and gain new traits.
Only thing you have in PUG which you do not have with pre-made is the occasional leech, troll and newbie/noob but without that variance the advanced queues would be even more mind numbing.
THAT, my dear fellow is reality and not what you proclaim it to be.
that being said, the dyson battlegrounds for counter command and the voth faction provide better rewards anyway.
some queues are dead, no doubt, but the easy ones with reasonable reward/time relation have a waiting time of less than a minute.
Now you're saying what you're saying people aren't saying.
Is it not bizzaro day and someone told me?
It would be possible for compound interest to take $1 in a savings account up to one million. Is it at all practical to wait for it to do so? Would it be so long a wait as to make other means necessary for the average ordinary looks beyond technically correct human?
Bug Hunt is getting fixed...so that will change.
What's the fail rate on ISA?
Those would be the two mains for APCs/BNPs, eh?
IMHO, since they did what they did for Isos/Implants, they should also do that for APCs/BNPs as well.
Cause then everything would be either easier, faster, or some combination to get elsewhere...and then only the folks that actually want to do the queues might start hitting up the queues again instead of having to worry about folks doing the AFK/leech thing - or just being woefully unprepared...
The dog crossed the road.
Somebody comes along and says the dog had to cross the road because it was being chased by an alien vampire.
I'll point back to the "The dog crossed the road." and say uh...yeah.
And how is one side "You don't need queues." and the other "Technically, the rep boxes can drop APCs."?
Want = something desired or wished for. Example, I want bacon.
Players want sets, players do not need them. Thus players want, not need, the non-mark items. Thus players do not need to run the queues, but most of us want to anyway.
Do note that in that post i was replying to a request for marks being account bound, the OP at no time mentioned the special items. I went there preemptively because that's usually the next thing mentioned when this particular dead horse comes up for its next beating.
Before you jump to any conclusions, I am entirely in support of some solution that makes the queues more popular. I really enjoy mine trap and would love to run it again. More importantly, games are entertainment, they are almost entirely about indulging our wants.
However, because the first post is basically the same thing as "gimme more for free" I didn't mind wandering over into the technical side of things while listing options available.
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Moving the goalposts much?
I'd have no idea how those would be the two sides...cause those are the same side.
The folks saying you need queues, as if there is no other option.
The folks saying technically you don't need queues, even if it is a poor option.
Would be the two sides that I tend to see in the discussion.
Needs speaks to an exclusivity that simply does not exist. That doesn't mean that the options there are that great, but as long as the option exists then there is no exclusivity.
There might be a restaurant that serves a well cooked burger so I don't feel like I eating a sponge, one that doesn't turn the bun into a wet napkin with the first bite...and that restaurant might be expensive as Hell, reservations set years in advance. Then there's the fast food joint with something that may or may not actually be meat in their burger. I can't say that I need the restaurant to get a burger...can definitely say I want the burger from the restaurant, but it's not the only option for a burger.
It also tends to show up as an excuse for why folks show up so poorly geared at times for queues. Do they need to run those queues first even if they feel the need to run them to get a particular piece of gear? What about all the other gearing options they could have availed themselves of first, eh? Not saying somebody has to grab 2pc Nukara as they run ISA to get 2pc Taskforce Omega's whatever. But have they even grabbed one of the mission sets? Have they grabbed the other pieces that they might want to work into their build as well which do not require them having hit any queues?
That whole excuse scenario of they need the gear from the queue to run the queue.
Like...hello? Obviously if you're running the queue to get the gear from the queue, you're already running the queue and thus the gear is not required to run the queue.
But, but...I'll need it for Elite. Well, if they're having problems with the Advanced, imho, they might just want to take a look at that first, eh?
It's just really difficult not to see so much of it as simply a case of I want it now...which is always fun to ask them if they had it now, just what would they be doing? If they had nothing to work toward, no goals, just uh...well, yeah, anyway.