So, I take it you just don't vote then as you come from the same school of thought as those others that don't vote that say "whats the point".
What you say may be true, however at least I can look in the mirror and say I tried to change things with my 1 vote.
I live in the UK and I have seen how my vote has made a difference over the years.
I think next year is going to be tough as I dislike all the parties at the moment and I will probably have to pick the same one as I normally do as there views are similar to my own, even though I don't particular like the leader.
That said, for all your postings, you do seem hell bent on making your opinion stand as being the only opinion. If you don't except mine, fine, I accept yours but disagree. Doesn't make me right, but you sure as much think your opinion is right by your rather long diatribe.
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
That said, for all your postings, you do seem hell bent on making your opinion stand as being the only opinion. If you don't except mine, fine, I accept yours but disagree. Doesn't make me right, but you sure as much think your opinion is right by your rather long diatribe.
Welcome to the Internet, we may disagree but it's nice to see someone else agree to disagree on things.
The whole voting comparison does seem a bit off since Cryptic aren't a government or a democracy. They'll do what they'll do regardless of what anyone here says. Hyperbole, another quirk of Internet communication that needs to go away in my opinion.
But since the topic has come up, for God's sake don't vote for UKIP :P
That's because most of the interaction I have in the forums isn't along the lines of, "Give us all your valuables. Now go away."
Well if you insist ... -- can I haz ur stuffs before you go away ??
But seriously , if you are interested in trying the fleet thing again , drop me a mail in game .
My @handle does not have the number in it, and my fleet has everything we want so your stuffs are not needed at this time , and if we will need your stuffs, you can donate however much / little as you feel like .
Same goes for participation after the initial application process .
... so now you can't say that all fleets tried to fleece you ...
But since the topic has come up, for God's sake don't vote for UKIP :P
That's my worry and why I have to vote in an attempt to make sure these rabble don't get in. They won't though. People usually vote for these kind of scum before the elections as a wake up call to the others. When push comes to shove, they will get what they normally get. Nada.
Now if some of the other parties would take some of what UKIP is saying (without all the usual BNP/NF rubbish), then they would edge towards my vote.
That said, enough of this stuff (my bad for starting it).
Notice how when these "we love you Cryptic" threads start up, it's always by someone with a few posts and they always disappear after never following up their posts.
I smell a rat Cryptic.
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
Notice how when these "we love you Cryptic" threads start up, it's always by someone with a few posts and they always disappear after never following up their posts.
Frankly the forum is very hostile to people who like the game.
I found it hostile until I got quite angry at the changes to the queued missions.
Now I fit in better - haha.
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A person comes on here thanking cryptic because THEY ARE ENJOYING THE GAME, and he gets bashed along with his thoughts on the game?
Seriously? And people wonder why the dev's and more players wont come on here... :mad:
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Frankly the forum is very hostile to people who like the game.
I found it hostile until I got quite angry at the changes to the queued missions.
Now I fit in better - haha.
I think the problem is that people who are happy with the game are actually playing the game so there's no need to come to the forums to tell people that they're happy playing the game. It's flame bait to be honest because everything is not awesome as these people try to make out.
Those that have a problem or a dislike, come here to vent, or to complain or to post constructive threads all in the hope that someone from Cryptic might take notice.
As to fitting in better, well that's just sad. Give courage to your convictions and stand by what you believe. That's not the same as the everything is awesome crowd who don't acknowledge any issues with the game.
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
Seriously? And people wonder why the dev's and more players wont come on here... :mad:
To be honest, since they acknowledged the fact they doesn't use our opinion at all in the development of the game, I don't see why they would post. Not to mention the fact they said the forum was a very small minority that never mattered anyway.
And most devs barely never posted on this forum. You'll have more of them on Reddit. Have been like that since I play STO, and it was a long time before DR.
As for the forum being quite toxic recently, that's true. But you have your share of insulting and borderline idiots on both side of the argument.
Also, if you ask me, you reap what you sow. When you spit on your community, don't expect love in return. I'm not saying that's true for all the devs, only a minority (1-2). Some of them are still very nice with the community, like Taco.
While I respect OP's opinion, and never try to convince everyone he was wrong, this thread is pretty much as useless as the average "I quit" thread.
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So, I take it you just don't vote then as you come from the same school of thought as those others that don't vote that say "whats the point".
What you say may be true, however at least I can look in the mirror and say I tried to change things with my 1 vote.
I live in the UK and I have seen how my vote has made a difference over the years.
I think next year is going to be tough as I dislike all the parties at the moment and I will probably have to pick the same one as I normally do as there views are similar to my own, even though I don't particular like the leader.
That said, for all your postings, you do seem hell bent on making your opinion stand as being the only opinion. If you don't except mine, fine, I accept yours but disagree. Doesn't make me right, but you sure as much think your opinion is right by your rather long diatribe.
Welcome to the Internet, we may disagree but it's nice to see someone else agree to disagree on things.
The whole voting comparison does seem a bit off since Cryptic aren't a government or a democracy. They'll do what they'll do regardless of what anyone here says. Hyperbole, another quirk of Internet communication that needs to go away in my opinion.
But since the topic has come up, for God's sake don't vote for UKIP :P
Well if you insist ... -- can I haz ur stuffs before you go away ??
But seriously , if you are interested in trying the fleet thing again , drop me a mail in game .
My @handle does not have the number in it, and my fleet has everything we want so your stuffs are not needed at this time , and if we will need your stuffs, you can donate however much / little as you feel like .
Same goes for participation after the initial application process .
... so now you can't say that all fleets tried to fleece you ...
That's my worry and why I have to vote in an attempt to make sure these rabble don't get in. They won't though. People usually vote for these kind of scum before the elections as a wake up call to the others. When push comes to shove, they will get what they normally get. Nada.
Now if some of the other parties would take some of what UKIP is saying (without all the usual BNP/NF rubbish), then they would edge towards my vote.
That said, enough of this stuff (my bad for starting it).
Notice how when these "we love you Cryptic" threads start up, it's always by someone with a few posts and they always disappear after never following up their posts.
I smell a rat Cryptic.
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I found it hostile until I got quite angry at the changes to the queued missions.
Now I fit in better - haha.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
A person comes on here thanking cryptic because THEY ARE ENJOYING THE GAME, and he gets bashed along with his thoughts on the game?
Seriously? And people wonder why the dev's and more players wont come on here... :mad:
Former Community Moderator, Former SSR DJ, Now Full time father to two kids, Husband, Retail Worker.
Tiktok: @Askray Facebook: Askray113
I think the problem is that people who are happy with the game are actually playing the game so there's no need to come to the forums to tell people that they're happy playing the game. It's flame bait to be honest because everything is not awesome as these people try to make out.
Those that have a problem or a dislike, come here to vent, or to complain or to post constructive threads all in the hope that someone from Cryptic might take notice.
As to fitting in better, well that's just sad. Give courage to your convictions and stand by what you believe. That's not the same as the everything is awesome crowd who don't acknowledge any issues with the game.
And most devs barely never posted on this forum. You'll have more of them on Reddit. Have been like that since I play STO, and it was a long time before DR.
As for the forum being quite toxic recently, that's true. But you have your share of insulting and borderline idiots on both side of the argument.
Also, if you ask me, you reap what you sow. When you spit on your community, don't expect love in return. I'm not saying that's true for all the devs, only a minority (1-2). Some of them are still very nice with the community, like Taco.
While I respect OP's opinion, and never try to convince everyone he was wrong, this thread is pretty much as useless as the average "I quit" thread.