Mirrorchaos specified hard information. We know he wants to direct it. Michael Dorn wants his "Captain Worf" TV series too, but so far that hasn't happened.
Or, in the words of the turian guard in Mass Effect, "I want lots of things, human. Desire is the basis of organized society."
Mirrorchaos specified hard information. We know he wants to direct it. Michael Dorn wants his "Captain Worf" TV series too, but so far that hasn't happened.
Or, in the words of the turian guard in Mass Effect, "I want lots of things, human. Desire is the basis of organized society."
The difference there is, Dorn was just talking about something he'd like to do, whereas Frakes is actively trying to do it (the article mentioned he'd actually made an offer to Abrams).
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and with Orci you get the weird HD color TRIBBLE you see on Hawaii five-O. in a perfect world Joss Whedon is the man to tap but that will NEVER happen.
Let's not forget how awesome Star Trek: Insurrection was, too.
Honestly, Insurrection was the only TNG movie that captured the tone of the series, and actually used the characters as they had been written. Plot holes, bad CGI, and a few poor actor choices aside, it's the only TNG movie that I felt got anything at all right.
I think not! Yes there was fantastic effects, it was nominated for Oscar for it. Robert Wise was a great director for it.
The musical score's helped show the feelings of curiosity, fear and helpless of the Enterprise crew, the scenes when inside V'Ger's vessel where awesome, they made good use of her size and really tensed the unknown intentions of V'Ger herself.
The Probe at any second would stop it's investigation and reduce the Enterprise and crew to data patterns......creepy!
Clearly the Enterprises greatest challenge!
How do you handle a massive powerful alien vessel that will reduce everything to data patterns, how do you answer when you don't know the question it's captain has been asking for century's due to communication problems, unawareness of other lifeforms other then what she knew and cold one sided computer logic...?
Always be my favorite film ever! =3
We have no idea what's out there.:P
Mostly agree.
TMP was the only stab that the Trek movies ever took at hard SciFi - and they backed it up with a suitable budget.
People look back at 2001: A Space Oddysey as some sort of SciFi messiah, but Kubrick's direction aside, TMP was better SciFi, and arguably a better movie if you want it to almost make sense it in a single viewing.
Sure, it wasn't an action movie, and yes, some of the acting was truly dreadful - it almost seemed like they thought they were still doing TAS - but it was actually a very, very solid film.
My guess is "hope" keeps people not playing but posting on the forums. For others, its a path of sad realization and closure. Grieving takes time. The worst "haters" here love the game, or did at some point.
Aaand apparently there's an update. The directors list may have narrowed to five. I know none of these. Anyone care to flesh out an understanding of each?
When I saw the name "Duncan Jones" in that list, I had to check out my suspicions. Sure enough, it's the same Duncan Jones who directed Moon, and is the son of David Bowie. So at least he has some... interesting credentials.
Rupert Wyatt directed Rise of the Planet of the Apes
Morten Tyldum has oscar buzz for The Imitation Game
Daniel Espinosa directed Safe House
Justin Lin did the Fast and Furious movies
Duncan Jones did Source Code and the upcoming War-craft movie
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Thanks, I appreciate the effort, but I can always look up the "who made what" stuff. Sorry, I was not so clear. I'd like to find out what these guys are like. For example, I can say "Peter Jackson made 6 films of Tolkien's stories." Well and good. Or I can say "Peter Jackson made 6 films of Tolkien's stories and demonstrated repeatedly that he can't leave the source material alone without significant tweaking. He does, however, put a lot of rich detail into the productions, though." That kind of stuff. :cool:
Also I'm asking because I don't get to see every last film out there, and several of these, I've not seen, just heard about.
Thanks, I appreciate the effort, but I can always look up the "who made what" stuff. Sorry, I was not so clear. I'd like to find out what these guys are like. For example, I can say "Peter Jackson made 6 films of Tolkien's stories." Well and good. Or I can say "Peter Jackson made 6 films of Tolkien's stories and demonstrated repeatedly that he can't leave the source material alone without significant tweaking. He does, however, put a lot of rich detail into the productions, though." That kind of stuff. :cool:
Also I'm asking because I don't get to see every last film out there, and several of these, I've not seen, just heard about.
Most of these directors are up and comers so not much is known about them. I would be OK with any of them except for Lin.
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Most of these directors are up and comers so not much is known about them. I would be OK with any of them except for Lin.
LMAO yeah I think I'd agree with the no Lin bit, we don't really need N2O boosted ships drifting around planets.
Now as long as Frakes was just directing and not acting in it, sure I might consider watching the movie, but to be honest after the first jj mess, the movies have been a dead horse to me.
People mostly don't understand that the director isn't writing the script, they can't make a boring script exciting, fix massive plot holes, but they can set the mood and tones by direction. Frakes is a pretty good director, doesn't matter if the script was poor.
People mostly don't understand that the director isn't writing the script, they can't make a boring script exciting, fix massive plot holes, but they can set the mood and tones by direction. Frakes is a pretty good director, doesn't matter if the script was poor.
Actually they can....any director coming into this movie will have a say in the script and will be able to change things as they see fit. A director can ask for a punch up of dialogue if it's too on the nose or stale and may request re shoots to fix plot holes or to add a more exciting scene
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Thanks, I appreciate the effort, but I can always look up the "who made what" stuff. Sorry, I was not so clear. I'd like to find out what these guys are like. For example, I can say "Peter Jackson made 6 films of Tolkien's stories." Well and good. Or I can say "Peter Jackson made 6 films of Tolkien's stories and demonstrated repeatedly that he can't leave the source material alone without significant tweaking. He does, however, put a lot of rich detail into the productions, though." That kind of stuff. :cool:
Also I'm asking because I don't get to see every last film out there, and several of these, I've not seen, just heard about.
Yeah, I think you're being too hard on him there.... 1: he's not the sole script writer. 2: as mentioned in the commentary some things that work in print don't work as well on film. Several of the omissions would have made the movie a lot longer and more expensive to produce. 3: As many have pointed out, most of the changes were inspired by Tolkien's work.
Yes, he cast his kids as extras... actually his weren't the only ones. The other writer's kids and the kids of several actors got cast too. Examples: Sam's daughter is the actor's actual daughter, Viggo's son played one of the Orcs killed by Aragorn. Also, Katie is actually a decent actress.
Well, the other reason I know anything about Duncan Jones is that I follow William Gibson on Twitter, and Gibson occasionally retweets Jones, who has an interesting sense of humor. On the other tentacle, I just looked through Jones' Twitter feed, and he specifically says he's not interested in directing Trek.
Yeah, I think you're being too hard on him there.... 1: he's not the sole script writer. 2: as mentioned in the commentary some things that work in print don't work as well on film. Several of the omissions would have made the movie a lot longer and more expensive to produce. 3: As many have pointed out, most of the changes were inspired by Tolkien's work.
Fair enough. I was mostly giving an example rather than my own personal opinion. It was meant to sound like a possible other opinion. Guess I don't know my own writing skills...or lack thereof. :P Since it has come up, I largely love what Jackson has done, though I felt his tweaks were better in LotR than in The Hobbit. Regardless of opinion of his merits or lack thereof, the man's efforts spurred sales of LotR books by over 20 million copies (I've not heard the figures on The Hobbit sales). That's worthy of credit.
I think not! Yes there was fantastic effects, it was nominated for Oscar for it. Robert Wise was a great director for it.
The musical score's helped show the feelings of curiosity, fear and helpless of the Enterprise crew, the scenes when inside V'Ger's vessel where awesome, they made good use of her size and really tensed the unknown intentions of V'Ger herself.
The Probe at any second would stop it's investigation and reduce the Enterprise and crew to data patterns......creepy!
Clearly the Enterprises greatest challenge!
How do you handle a massive powerful alien vessel that will reduce everything to data patterns, how do you answer when you don't know the question it's captain has been asking for century's due to communication problems, unawareness of other lifeforms other then what she knew and cold one sided computer logic...?
Always be my favorite film ever! =3
We have no idea what's out there.:P
I have to concur, TMP was a really good movie, better than some give it credit for.
would these include slow motion close ups of Elijah Wood making constipation faces in the middle of battle scenes? That always gave me the same feeling as watching a film I thought was good and then they break out in song...just awkward.
Recently Roberto Orci has stepped away from directing Star Trek 3. This has prompted fans on Twitter and Facebook to trend #BringInRiker in an effort to get Jonathan Frakes to replace him. Frakes himself has apparently caught wind of it and is so psyched at the idea that's he's reached out to JJ Abrams who's still producing the film.
Johnathan Frakes is just wrong for a TOS era film (IMO). Wait until (and if) they ever get around to a TNG revamp - then he can direct Conference scenes all day.:D
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I liked Insurrection....
http://www.firstshowing.net/2014/first-contact-director-jonathan-frakes-wants-a-shot-at-star-trek-3/
yeah, cause Frist Contact was such a TRIBBLE of a movie, right?
if I could have any one person direct ST3 I think I would tap Jon Favreau
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The difference there is, Dorn was just talking about something he'd like to do, whereas Frakes is actively trying to do it (the article mentioned he'd actually made an offer to Abrams).
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I liked Iron Man 3...
Then again, I liked STV, Insurrection, Nemesis, Generations and TASM2, so...
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he's better than JJ by far.
and with Orci you get the weird HD color TRIBBLE you see on Hawaii five-O. in a perfect world Joss Whedon is the man to tap but that will NEVER happen.
Shane Black directed IM3
Honestly, Insurrection was the only TNG movie that captured the tone of the series, and actually used the characters as they had been written. Plot holes, bad CGI, and a few poor actor choices aside, it's the only TNG movie that I felt got anything at all right.
Mostly agree.
TMP was the only stab that the Trek movies ever took at hard SciFi - and they backed it up with a suitable budget.
People look back at 2001: A Space Oddysey as some sort of SciFi messiah, but Kubrick's direction aside, TMP was better SciFi, and arguably a better movie if you want it to almost make sense it in a single viewing.
Sure, it wasn't an action movie, and yes, some of the acting was truly dreadful - it almost seemed like they thought they were still doing TAS - but it was actually a very, very solid film.
Star Trek 3′ Director Search Narrows To Five
Morten Tyldum has oscar buzz for The Imitation Game
Daniel Espinosa directed Safe House
Justin Lin did the Fast and Furious movies
Duncan Jones did Source Code and the upcoming War-craft movie
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Also I'm asking because I don't get to see every last film out there, and several of these, I've not seen, just heard about.
Most of these directors are up and comers so not much is known about them. I would be OK with any of them except for Lin.
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This is my problem with the headline..should read "Star Trek 13 loses Roberto Orci, etc.."
Star Trek 3 had an excellent director.
You may have heard of him
His name is Leonard Nimoy
LMAO yeah I think I'd agree with the no Lin bit, we don't really need N2O boosted ships drifting around planets.
Now as long as Frakes was just directing and not acting in it, sure I might consider watching the movie, but to be honest after the first jj mess, the movies have been a dead horse to me.
And whatever problems it has are not due to the directing.
Bring in Riker.
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Actually they can....any director coming into this movie will have a say in the script and will be able to change things as they see fit. A director can ask for a punch up of dialogue if it's too on the nose or stale and may request re shoots to fix plot holes or to add a more exciting scene
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Yes, he cast his kids as extras... actually his weren't the only ones. The other writer's kids and the kids of several actors got cast too. Examples: Sam's daughter is the actor's actual daughter, Viggo's son played one of the Orcs killed by Aragorn. Also, Katie is actually a decent actress.
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Fair enough. I was mostly giving an example rather than my own personal opinion. It was meant to sound like a possible other opinion. Guess I don't know my own writing skills...or lack thereof. :P Since it has come up, I largely love what Jackson has done, though I felt his tweaks were better in LotR than in The Hobbit. Regardless of opinion of his merits or lack thereof, the man's efforts spurred sales of LotR books by over 20 million copies (I've not heard the figures on The Hobbit sales). That's worthy of credit.
I have to concur, TMP was a really good movie, better than some give it credit for.
would these include slow motion close ups of Elijah Wood making constipation faces in the middle of battle scenes? That always gave me the same feeling as watching a film I thought was good and then they break out in song...just awkward.
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Oh. Well that's....disappointing.
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