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DS9 v Voyager
torgaddon101
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My daughter is asking me what is the best of these shows...
she likes TOS/TNG/enterprise (she hates the theme music).
but she can see herself as captain janeway.. or as a female version of Martok...
is my daughter messed up?
I don't even wanna mention aliens and her having a M41a pulse rifle.
and she's 25... omg
she likes TOS/TNG/enterprise (she hates the theme music).
but she can see herself as captain janeway.. or as a female version of Martok...
is my daughter messed up?
I don't even wanna mention aliens and her having a M41a pulse rifle.
and she's 25... omg
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So yeah, that means you raised her right. And now she's ready for DS9, which is vastly superior to VOY.
I disagree with you that DS9 is better then VOY. I found DS9 a little boring at time, while VOY seemed more like how the series started, with a little DS9 flare added in. The whole premise of exploration is what draws me to Star Trek.
Yes your raising your daughter well. Some day who knows she may be a captain.
if things with my daughter are like this...
my grandson is evil on kinnect star wars; lightsabers beats me up all the time..
so the question is..?
an I abusing my family to; too much sifi?
personally , I hate neelix more than the spawn of satan , the TRIBBLE idiot
Plus DS9 is bloody great TV. It holds up nicely today, even when TNG and VOY are a little bit dated: 3 dimensional villains, actions that have consequences, massive secondary cast, a main cast consisting of more than three members, a large amount of female main characters throughout, consistent plot threads not dropped after a few episodes, lots of follow ups to TNG, all out war, no Borg, Some nice morals around terrorism vs. freedom fighting that works nicely in todays climate as it did in the IRA 90's, Religious discourse and discussion, The Sisko, great CGI battles, The Dominion, Kai Winn... I can go on forever
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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and was a *****...
don't u love women?
What on Earth are you saying ??
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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This, plus DS9 was actually well-written, well-acted, and made internal, coherent sense. On top of that, it had Jeffrey Combs and Voyager didn't. And DS9 had Odo, who is my perfect priceless little darling and I won't hear a word against him. Plus Worf, who is simply the most awesome badass ever. And the Sisko, who is of Bajor and that's all that matters.
Out of the two shows, DS9 takes the trophy as it was superbly written with interesting characters (Quark and Odo's love/hate relationship and O'Brien and Bashir's friendship)
DS9 also showed the darker side to what appears to be a utopia and the even had it's own quadrant wide war with tough decisions being made.
DS9 is superior to Voyager on those points alone.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
If you're daughter can see herself as a female version of Martok than you're an awesome dad with a bad-TRIBBLE daughter and you should feel proud! Qapla'
Also, hands down DS9. So many great characters all around. Odo, Worf, Kira, Quark, Martok, Bashir.... Some really great stories told.
People didn't like Neelix? B&B rammed him down our throats without changing him one iota.
This alone makes DS9 superior: meaningful long-term character development. Couple that with little if any use of the reset button, a coherent storyline, a captain who usually had the guts to make the right and smart choice over the strictly moral choice*, and writers who were willing to admit that the Federation isn't perfect no matter how much Roddenberry thought it was, and you've got the best of all five series.
* Picard: Agonizes over sacrificing one life to wipe out the Borg Collective and save trillions of lives in the long run. Sisko: Reluctantly swallows his pride and becomes a party to assassination of a foreign politician to save billions. Needs of the many, baby.
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I'm sure Voyager did, in that Seven of Nine fighting episode
Edit. It did. Episode called Tsunkatse. Character name Penk.
For the the start trek i like the Enterprise, DS9 and the TNG (Prelude to Axanar).
DS9 is a bit dark the Enterprise is more adventures.
Fine, one episode with Combs.
DS9 had dozens.
my 6 year old daughter can name the cast of all Star Trek Series and Films...
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VOY had Dwayne Johnson. As an overmuscled fighter for a broadcast audience.
DS9 wins.
In the Rock's defense, he, Hertzler, and Combs totally stole the show in that episode. Jeri tried, but she had nothing for character development thanks to the terrible writing.
Besides, stereotypical as his casting was, it WAS nice to see some acknowledgement for the fact that pro wrestling requires most of the same skills as acting.
Dwayne Johnson's actually a surprisingly good actor, if typecast as the macho tough guy. I loved him in Get Smart.
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Watch "Journey 2: The mysterious Island".
He's basically a self-parody in that. Super macho tough guy...who is absolutely 100% useless against a giant lizard.
He was like the only part of Fast 6 worth watching...and then there was that god-awful tooth fairy movie.
Gotta admire a man who shows up to work for a terrible movie, knows it's bad, and does a good job anyway.
That one is so stupid, he lost a Rock/Paper/Scissors game to a Pony.
Except for the first and last episode you could take all the voyager episodes dump them into a lotto ball machine and play them randomly little or no loss of continuity. The characters are generally stiff cardboard cut-outs and stereotypes.
On the other hand DS-9 generally had three (or more) story threads in each episode and they usually arched through multiple episodes for minor threads, and the entire season fro major threads. The characters on DS-9 are a lot more three dimensional, and have flaws as well as touches of greatness.
DS9.
Easy.