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The Zeffy Shotgun, I've confirmed it's Borg-Proof!
ironmako
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I just got the Zeffram Cochrane Shotgun, Took it to the Defera Invasion Zone, and tried it on Drones and Elite Tactical Drones. Yes it Pens Sheilds, and No, the Borg do not adapt to it!
Furthermore, those concerned with the audible asthetics (and rightly so) of the shotgun, yes your charater will 'cocq' (spelled incorrectly due to the censoring of the forum) the gun with each shot.
It hits like a pulsewave, so short range, but you can hit multiple targets, and the secondary fire seems to be also like the pulsewave secondary, very short cooldown, and the ability to inflict more pain onto more enemies, with the same shot.
Thank you STO, I'm sure this shotgun will revive the ground STF's once again
**caressing his shotgun** We are going to slaughter soooo many borg together..."
Furthermore, those concerned with the audible asthetics (and rightly so) of the shotgun, yes your charater will 'cocq' (spelled incorrectly due to the censoring of the forum) the gun with each shot.
It hits like a pulsewave, so short range, but you can hit multiple targets, and the secondary fire seems to be also like the pulsewave secondary, very short cooldown, and the ability to inflict more pain onto more enemies, with the same shot.
Thank you STO, I'm sure this shotgun will revive the ground STF's once again
**caressing his shotgun** We are going to slaughter soooo many borg together..."
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Grindy grind grind.
Does anybody have any info about additional mods when upgrading this item? Are they static or random?
I hope not.
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By it's appearance, it doesn't seem that the animation they used makes sense with the gun we saw on screen. I know they just recycled animations, but I'm pretty sure you couldn't repeat cochrane's gun like that
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I'm sure he (or the other devs) wont. The TR-116b rifle hasn't yet been touched, and that rifle has the range, the shotgun does not, so it has a limitation.....
....saying that, its still great fun to use!
The only tiny thing, is you hear the cocqing sound, but the animation isn't there, but as I say, its a small thing.
For the actual "shot", if there are any FPS Russia fans out there, it looks like the shotty has been load with a slighly more conservative version of "Dragon's Breath" so its nice to see being fired as well.
One thing is for sure,, with so many players carrying these babies around, the TR-116b will lose some of its value on the exchange for sure, but it will always have the range
I'm just happy that I can throw away my frequency remodulator now!
I just find it amusing that things like an ancient shotgun, Tommy Gun, Roman Gladius, muskets, sharp knives, sticks are better weapons in dealing with the powerful Borg menace than modern era Star Trek weapons.
This shotgun is incredibly fun to use. Thus it must be an exploit. :P
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Why, let's hope for the best then.
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Using game elements for unintended purposes, such as this thing called "Fun" is not correct and is considered an exploit.
It is funny, I mean, in a modern (futuristic) age, everyone uses energy weapons, and forgets about percussive/kinetic/projectile weapons.
Even shields on a ship protect against energy weapons.
If we could strap some 17th century cannons onto our ships, they would also have 100% shield pen
I would LOVE to see this in game!
"We discovered an issue where some people were having 17x as much fun as elsewhere. Clearly, this was not intended. Remember, if it sounds too much fun to be true, it likely is."
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One of my Fave TNG episodes.
Always hoping to see the Promellians and their Battle crusier one day in STO
I find it astonishing that Trek canon established multiple times that Starfleet and prbably other forces had already developed remodulating phasers that overcame Borg adaptation as well as compression phasers that work inside of dampening fields (i.e. magic "no technology" plot devices). Yet, those advancements in technology were completely forgotten because for some reason people want heir ancient stick and stone weapons in their Star Trek, because awesome. Or whatever.
The Borg were also shown to be capable in melee as well as having personal shields that would prevent people from *touching* them (Locutus' personal shield). This was also completely "forgotten" in favour of sluggish space zombies and more nonsense
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You are right I think. The TR-116B is one thing. Was told to have a transporters unit attached to it to bypass shields and walls, but borg were shown to be able to counteract such stuff as well. This shotty here should be a surprise to a first drone which encounters it but should not do much more damage to a second one anymore than a torpedo does to a ship with shields. Data ones was able to craft a bullet prove energy shield out of his communicator if I remember correctly.
But why doubt here at all. Every player currently in game will get this gun for free, doesn't have to think about game mechanics and be able to do some good.
This weapon is a benefit for a rather messed up ground experience atm where maps are broken and players also fail because of strict DPS timers.
If the gun works as described by the OP and doesnt get nerft by cryptic (Im still somewhat confused why the label doesnt mention any shield penetration benefits like melee weapons have and the gun itself has no direct shield pen mods like the TR-116B) I say thank you ones in a while to Cryptic
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I saw The Best of Both Worlds the other day, and I remember the scene, but I think that was a shield generated by the ship, as you got a side-profle shot where Worf bounces off the shield. Then, when they go the retrieve him, Worf just straight pwns him (with Data's assistance)
I have to say, I'm already upgrading my shotty, but just before I did, I saw a few players with shotties on Defera, running amok, killing borg left right and centre. I can safely assume that none of the players I saw were running missions, they were just exacting revenge on the Borg, and having tremendous fun doing so.
In a couple of hours i'll have my shotty back, and will be going back to Defera, where I plan to stay for the next fortnight having as much fun as possible. Look out for a Reman in an Nemesis uniform, It will most probably be me
I love the gun so much, I think I shall show my appreciation by picking up some Zen on payday at the end of the month, to pay homage to Cryptic, on the proviso that they NEVER touch this gun, ever, ever, ever!!!
It was Worf who build a bullet-proof personal force field out of a (holographic) telegraph and his combadge, but yeah - it exists. Forcefields and shields should all be able to deflect kinetic attacks, it makes absolutely no sense that Borg's weakness are ancient weapons
Granted, this is entirely possible. But even if not every drone had a shield like this, see above. Using kinetic shielding should, especially for the Borg, be a given. Besides, starship shields block kinetic projectiles all the time as well. The whole Borg rewrite to have zombies and shotguns in Star Trek makes no sense whatsoever
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Yeah, I know what you mean, but (and I'm going to regret saying this) we have to think about physics.
Having something which can stop something physical, like a bullet or buckshot would need a physical shield, almost like bullet proof glass. Sure they can materialise something to block incoming shots, but wouldn't this also prevent the borg from attacking as well?
Oh, for those who are not quite there yet with getting the gun and you want to see what it looks like in action, then head to the Defera invasion zone, there are now loads of players with shotties dispatching borg all over the place
I am hoping that by tonight (UTC time) that the ground STF's will be nicely queued, so I can have some runs on normal and advanced, see how this baby performs in the true test.
I understand where you are coming from. The non-canonical "Mr. Scott's guide to the Enterprise" (don't know the exact title right now) which was written way back when the TOS-movies aired, even explained that starship shields are supposed to replicate physical particles of some alloy to block physical objects.
But whtever would be necessary in real-life theory for it to work, it was shown on-screen. Worf *macgyver'd* a force field that blocked bullets, so this should be common technology by now. And I'm sure a drone could momentarily drop the shield to touch anything, I guess
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I totally get what you mean dude. But I think the main point of this is not only for the shield pen, but this is the first ranged weapon which does not need remodulating at all.
It is certainly not the biggest DPS ground weapon (my Lirpa kills borg way faster) but its all about the remodulation.
Remember Picard in First Contact, where he unloads a Tommy gun into a borg whilst engaging in a satisfying war-cry, That's what the shotty is all about for me.
Unloading a pump action without stopping to remodulate is just too much fun, and for an aggressive close-up fighter like me, that's all I need. it's that satisfatction you get and also the temptation to use Worf's famous catchphrase: "Assimilate THIS!"
This gives me an idea for an awesome sig.....
What career is your Gorn? I'm getting 1-5k hits on my tac captain specced for ground.
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TR-116 letters n stuff.