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LOR Better then DR
r24681012
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the reason i ask this Question is when LOR Was Launched we had so many people wanting to play it we had to queue to get on it we also had the server crashing and being a fleet leader i also saw rise in activity with the release of delta rising i have really seen the opposite no queues no server crashing and very little rise in fleet activity which tells me Lor is more sucessful then delta rising. if thats the case where has it all gone wrong for delta 
What do you Guys think where has it gone wrong for DR and do you prefer LOR
Do you think things can only get better or worse
What do you Guys think where has it gone wrong for DR and do you prefer LOR
Do you think things can only get better or worse
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Translation from Kobali into English, "GO GRIND YOUR EYES OUT UNTIL THE NEXT 15 MINUTE LENGTH STORY QUEST, SUCKA!"
Yup. LoR was the magnum opus for STO imho. I'd rather do Candle in a Hurricane 20x over in a day than do the Kobali quests.
That is not me saying Delta Rising is better. That is simply me saying that I feel like LoR accomplished nothing - other then segregating the player-base into even more cliques while leaving the majority still with little to do.
LOR introduced the Romulans...Real star trek stuff...Fans were interested
DR introduces the destruction of the most popular content in the game the STFs...nerfing of dilithium income from the most popular content..The removal of loot from that content
Doesnt take a genius to figure it out....Taking out the rewards from space from the majority of Fed players is a terrible decision they are beginning to pay for as the metrics are beginning to show right now in game. Anyone with eyes can see the Qs
Anyone with a memory knows what those Qs said before DR and what they show now
Anyone in a active fleet knows how many people they lost and how many they have gained
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
DR has alot of big problems game crashing on the new petrol missions every other time i do them.
LOR introduced a faction full of overpowered, imbalanced ships, and did not do justice to the Romulans because you get only half a faction instead of an independent, galactic force. IN addition, most of the content is only available for that one new faction and useless to existing characters.
Delta Rising introduces cool new ships and mechanics. It allows us to revisit one of many people's favourite Star Trek locations, greatly expanding the game to contain more of the Star Trek lore. All the new content is available for all the factions and can be used for existing characters.
I'd say it might honestly be like comparing apples and oranges.
Both brought some good to the game. Both took some good out of the game.
Expansions add a lot of content and changes but they could be viewed as clean slates to rectify some mistakes made on the Devs' part or to make them even worse.
From my personal perspective it's the latter.
For myself, I have had 1.5 years to look back on LoR and come to the conclusion that it added nothing to my STO play experience - much like Shooter Mode. 1.5 years from now I might look back on DR and say the same thing.
system Lord Baal is dead
In the short-term, yes: LoR had far more missions then DR - even though many of those missions have never been played by huge chunks of the player-base. But we have known for months that DR was coming out in stages whereas LoR came out all at once. What we see of DR is, supposedly, Stage 1. Hopefully they are going to hit their Stage 2, 3, etc goals for DR and that it will all make sense at some point in the future.
I agree that it was rushed, but I say that with every update. The Marketing Team and the Production Teams seem to be unwilling, or unable, to agree on when things should be released and when they should be pushed back. It always seems like once the date is set by the Marketing Team that date is met whether the content is ready or not. It should not work that way, IMO.
As far as the VO's, those costs are negligible. Most of the cast was probably working for Scale minimum. I would imagine that only Jeri Ryan was more expensive - and she probably only had to work a few hours get all her lines recorded. IIRC, SAG Scale minimum is around $800.00 a day for VO work, and I doubt anyone had to work more then 1 day.
ive seen more dauntless ships than any T6 ship imo
system Lord Baal is dead
i call that the fed i got my clock pack :P
system Lord Baal is dead
Not everyone wants to play more than one faction, in this game you reach a point.where it's the same missions, and there is no point playing another faction besides taste in ships.
Yes, I am sure more people liked Neelix better than Romulans.
Plus you get Kazons, omg who doesn't like Kazons? Not some boring Tal Shiar.
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That kinda makes sense. I missed LoR because I don't have a Rom toon, and I'm avoiding the DQ because of the events (and balancing) in the final Romulan mission in the FE KDF side.
I still havent done any Epohh tagging either.
:P
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Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
I have said many bad things about LOR, I would probably say them again in a kinder gentler way, and with more respect, given a knowledge of the future. :P
If you don't care about a romulan player character, LoR didn't harm your gameplay in ANY way. In fact, it gave you some new PvE queues to participate in.
If you don't care about DR, you're boned 7 ways from Sunday. The reward cuts, the Xp cuts, the EC reduction across the game as well as the monumental increase in hitpoints for ALL npc enemies has royally F-ed over players that might otherwise just stay in the Alpha Quadrant. It's not a matter of avoiding the new content -- the F's have been retroactively applied to all players and all content, and no lube was used.
You cannot compare the two. LoR was far more interesting from an external standpoint (as in, I didn't roll a rom toon until just recently, I ignored all the romulan stuff for a long time), and far more inclusive and fun. The DR content is just mindless droning, endless hitpoint walls, reduced damage and increased resistances. I was watching a video clip where a 50k scimi was doing 300 damage per hit against a Vaudwaar ship. You KNOW the damage output is there, but through BS coding and the new difficulty, on TOP of the 5 million hp for a lowly battleship/dreadnought, any hit that would normally do 3000 damage is doing 300.
LoR was better in terms of player engagement, in terms of keeping players interested and rewarded with new content (should they want to get into that) and at the same time allowing players the freedom they have had up until this point to play as they like. DR is 100% about removing all freedom and player choice from the game, in as violent a way as the devs could have done.
I honestly have been thinking the same way. You can't just ignore the expansion if you don't care for it. You're going to be affected no matter what you do, if you're playing.
Queue revamps, post-50 level progression, upgrades (and lack thereof), etc. You can't just say "I'm going to do the same things I was doing before, because I don't like the new content." We all know how that went.
In my opinion, the expansion is less a story progression, and more a monetization progression. Whether that's good or bad is up to everyone individually.
But I've made my Romulans, played them, leveled them, and abandoned them pretty much as I know they're getting zero support like the KDF is and I've given up my hope for a Cardassian faction as well.
Because Cardassians too will just be used to make money, maybe given some OP powers to sell them then discarded like a dirty tissue after 6 months when Cryptic designs their customary flop ship to use as a excuse not to make more Cardassian ships.
It's because LOR was about well, a romulans. DR is about what? right, jelly people...
But...but I thought they were OP? People are under the assumption they are! lol
then again even a 1% boost makes other ships obsolete in many peoples eyes...
This is only true in PvP, which is dead now anyway, so yeah...