This is semantics. When you're talking about an XP progression modifier by a factor of 17, whether it is XP earned or the time it took to earn it, you are looking at a very obvious flaw in game design that I would think a reasonable person would see as an exploit.
This was not your run-of-the-mill Tau Dewa patrol mission we're talking. We're talking about utilizing several game bugs that were easily reproducable and combine them to provide this unintentional rate of XP gain.
I've played the DQ patrols before, and I did not see them as particularly different than before.
Oh I see...so according to your logic if I can do rewarding content or unrewarding content I should always pick the unrewarding content or I am exploiting. So instead of running STF's I should just run the first story mission over and over again?
I've played the DQ patrols recently, and I did not see them as particularly different than before.
Yeah that was not the point ... before what btw, before Delta Rising ? ... I was talking about old Content (LvL 50) vs. Delta Rising Content (LvL 60)... and if you can't see the enormous HP-Point Increase i.E., which you tediously have to zerg/grind down (aka ~17times longer) ... than I guess all hope is lost for you Sir ...
Patch Notes : Resolved an Issue, where people would accidently experience Fun.
Yes, while I may not angre with all your posts iconian (not in this thread, in other ones months ago etc) I think the Community has really gone downhill.
I agree alot of mistakes are Cryptics, with some of their communication being really bad in several incidents, but sometimes the reactions I see boggle my mind, and I am sure yours too (please tell me if I am wrong).
May I ask, I vaguely remember the forums just after F2P and during 2012, was it alot nicer than this?
I am sorry, but this is complete and utter bull****.
First of all, if your metrics were working correctly, I would have lost points. I leveled an entire character almost to full using only Tau Dewa Patrols, yet I did not lose a single point. Admittedly, I also leveled a second char using your story missions, doing queues and doffing, yet still, if anyone qualifies for exploiting, it is me and I did not get punished at all.
Furthermore, there has been a vast number of reports, some of which I know for certain to be true that lost points even though they never have ever been in Japori during the last week. Some people were leveling in Argala, a new Delta Quadrant System that was not scaling-bugged and still supplied ample XP, given you were able to kill enemies within a reasonable timeframe (ie: don't be a baddie)
There was even a Level 51 player who reported he lost his single spec point.
To further elaborate on how shockingly inept you are at your job: The Tau Dewa patrol leveling potential was both USED AND REPORTED on Tribble, yet you did NOTHING, in fact, everyone who encountered this on Tribble and reported it must have been utterly convinced that it was intended to work this way, since you didn't change it, despite it being reported repeadetly.
Additionally, in no way did you address the current XP situation. You state in your recent patch notes that XP gain would be increased from a 1.75 modifier to 2.00, so a 12,5% increase, wherin reality you cut XP gain across the board by 70%.
You are either extremely incompetent or deliberatly lying to the playerbase. Choose one.
Oh, and one more thing: "Our communication on this matter was apparently unclear". WELL NO **** SHERLOCK, you put up a sticky that was saying that TD was exploitable and you fixed it. THEN, 6 HOURS LATER YOU EDITED THE POST TO INCLUDE A SECTION THAT SAID THAT SOME PEOPLE WERE PUNISHED FOR IT, IN WHAT HAS TO BE THE MOST COWARDLY THING YOU HAVE EVER DONE IN YOUR LIFE. YOU AND EVERYONE WHO WAS PART OF THAT SHOULD FEEL UTTERLY ASHAMED.
This is semantics. When you're talking about an XP progression modifier by a factor of 17, whether it is XP earned or the time it took to earn it, you are looking at a very obvious flaw in game design that I would think a reasonable person would see as an exploit.
This was not your run-of-the-mill Tau Dewa patrol mission we're talking. We're talking about utilizing several game bugs that were easily reproducable and combine them to provide this unintentional rate of XP gain.
I've played the DQ patrols recently, and I did not see them as particularly different than before.
Now Im going to call you out as being a liar. Because anyone thats done any content pre-DR and then experienced the DR Content would be able to reasonably admit that the content in DR takes a hell of a lot longer. Why? Because even on normal setttings Escort like Ships are somewhere in the 71k range and Battleships/Carriers are nearly 200k.
So unless you want to start talking about how you have a 30k DPS boat. I doubt you didnt notice that it takes 10-20 minutes longer in the DQ Patrols then it does in the Tau Dewa Patrols.
Oh I see...so according to your logic if I can do rewarding content or unrewarding content I should always pick the unrewarding content or I am exploiting. So instead of running STF's I should just run the first story mission over and over again?
That is in no way, shape, or form the argument I am making.
I am saying that 17 times the rate of average XP gain was never the norm, and I think it is intellectually dishonest to state that it ever was.
I could maybe give the convicts a pass if they were new to the game, but when you say you're around since launch... I'm sorry, but you really should know better than to think that could ever be construed as intentional design.
It is not like you pull up a stop watch and say: Oh, this was suspicious! I must leave at once and do something else. If there had been something else!
If you are getting XP 17 times the rate of what you normally would before Delta Rising, yes, you should believe that is suspicious and at least consider the possibility you should knock it off.
But I'm also of the opinion this is Cryptic's fault, not the players' fault for taking advantage of this exploit.
I'm just saying that in terms of recognizing intentional vs. unintentional game design, XP rate by a factor of 17 should be extremely obvious to people who have played.
I'm not buying the ignorance pleas from most of these alleged victims.
Now Im going to call you out as being a liar. Because anyone thats done any content pre-DR and then experienced the DR Content would be able to reasonably admit that the content in DR takes a hell of a lot longer. Why? Because even on normal setttings Escort like Ships are somewhere in the 71k range and Battleships/Carriers are nearly 200k.
So unless you want to start talking about how you have a 30k DPS boat. I doubt you didnt notice that it takes 10-20 minutes longer in the DQ Patrols then it does in the Tau Dewa Patrols.
I have noticed the enemy HP buffs. But in terms of XP gain I have not noticed a particular difference. And certainly not anywhere near enough as to warrant concern.
I am saying that 17 times the rate of average XP gain was never the norm, and I think it is intellectually dishonest to state that it ever was.
How would anyone know what's supposed to be "Average" ... you'll still just repeating DEV's ... the point is there is a major difference between the old content & the new one ... so it doesn't matter how often you repeat "Average", because "Average" is subject to change ... obviously ...
I have noticed the enemy HP buffs. But in terms of XP gain I have not noticed a particular difference. And certainly not anywhere near enough as to warrant concern.
That's why the EP was talking about 17 times faster ... not XP -> more HP = more time to shoot something ... basic conecept, isn't it ...
PS : I can even give you the numbers ... Tau Dewa Battleship (=700XP) / Argala DQ-Patrol BS (=1500XP) [before Patch]
Patch Notes : Resolved an Issue, where people would accidently experience Fun.
I can say from the few times I did Japori (I was grinding Argala mostly) 17x is a ridiculous hyperbole. Read the post again it gives the arbitrary number that players were earning 17x the xp than anywhere else, NOT that the npc's were giving 17x the xp there is a difference.
Unless somebody else was getting more XP than you by pulling certain tricks. He's not saying that most players running Tau Dewa were getting 17x the intended skillpoints. He's saying a select few were.
I'm all for calling out Cryptic, selectively, but don't assume because you got to 60 +15 or even 60 +60 at Tau Dewa that there weren't people going much faster than you who were using tricks to do it.
There were people grinding enemies on Elite.
There were people grinding patrols on Elite.
There were people utilizing level scaling for weaker enemies while grinding patrols.
There were people utilizing level scaling for weaker enemies while grinding patrols and doing more than one other thing.
I think Cryptic needs to distinguish between these different behaviors first of all. Lumping it all together created a problem. The rollback also seems to have created more noticeable losses for people who gamed the system less or not at all.
I also think players need to stop assuming that they were one of the 300 because they got rolled back. As I can gather, the 300 exploiters did not get rolled back as much as non-exploiters.
Being "punished" with a rollback doesn't make you one of the more severe exploiters or indicate that YOU were progressing at 17x the rate intended. It makes Cryptic bad at implementing solutions and dealing with bugs as they apparently took back a portion of any grind Elite XP, including the non-exploitative kind. And being an exploiter who was progressing at 17x progress apparently means you got "punished" less, if not by percentage then at an absolute level.
How would anyone know what's supposed to be "Average" ... you'll still just repeating DEV's ... the point is there is a major difference between the old content & the new one ... so it doesn't matter how often you repeat "Average", because "Average" is object to change ... obviously ...
If you've been here for 4 years, you should know what average is. And you should most certainly recognize when something is off like 17 times the rate you normally would gain XP.
If you didn't do it then how do you know it was obviously an exploit?
Is that a joke? Because it's a pretty silly question.
An exploit is obvious even to those that don't abuse it. I know because I level at the normal rate, when those around me are fully maxed in every tree in the time it takes me to gain 2 levels I know something is up.
I don't have to take part to know it's an exploit, that's silly logic at best.
By your logic I can't know that setting myself on fire would hurt unless I actually try it.
If you've been here for 4 years, you should know what average is. And you should most certainly recognize when something is off like 17 times the rate you normally would gain XP.
Is that a joke? Because it's a pretty silly question.
An exploit is obvious even to those that don't abuse it. I know because I level at the normal rate, when those around me are fully maxed in every tree in the time it takes me to gain 2 levels I know something is up.
I don't have to take part to know it's an exploit, that's silly logic at best.
By your logic I can't know that setting myself on fire would hurt unless I actually try it.
You JUST posted in the DPS thread where you acknowledged that some people do have absurdly higher than average DPS, and had it before they would have even started leveling beyond 50. Why is something "up" if they happen to be killing things that much faster than you for the purpose of grinding XP?
I wasn't gaining XP 17 times faster killing enemies with buffed HP in the DQ patrols. But I also was not affected by any of the punitive rollbacks.
Of course you didn't, because they were THE ONLY ONES to get BUFFED/SCALED before the patch ...
Def : "above average"
PS : No I didn't notice there was something "off" in Tau Dewa ... I was under the impression the new stuff was somehow bugged, because everything had ridiciously high HP (if you check the Forums, a lot of people do) ... and I was used to shooting down Elite-Enemies within 5min, so why not ... turned out I was wrong ...
Patch Notes : Resolved an Issue, where people would accidently experience Fun.
Well, since I won't seriously play again until Cryptic admits they were wrong and undo this madness, I won't be there to care.
if you didn't care you'd have just gotten on with your life. if someone had real convictions they'd just walk away rather then whimper to a bunch of strangers. instead you're sitting at home raging about a video game.
Of course you didn't because they were THE ONLY ONES to get BUFFED before the patch ... = "above average"
I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make. Yes, HP buffs can affect the amount of time it takes to kill something. Yes, I do know this is tied into XP rate gain.
However, I also know that there were not only ~250 accounts doing the Tau Dewa Patrol missions. There were way more. And simply doing the Tau Dewa Patrol missions were not enough to warrant punitive rollbacks of specialization points gained.
It required a particular set of variables (from what the EP stated) to get this ridiculously unfair advantage.
Not everybody doing Tau Dewa was getting 17 times the XP rate gain, and that is not something Mr. D'Angelo ever said.
Like anything, there was a spectrum of what was fair and what was unfair. People doing Tau Dewa patrols were apparently judged on a rather forgiving curve. Some got away with more than others. It does not at all imply things like motive, intent, awareness, or reason. It does not imply that these people knew what was average and what was not.
Some people were able to get away with all of their specialization points intact. Some lost a few. Some lost half.
D'Angelo acknowledged that people were understandably taking advantage of the bugs present, but only a select few were taking advantage of them to excess. Those are the people who I think should have known better.
Truly though, it's mind boggling that this even happened. Never in all my years of playing MMO's..
I mean really though, who give a flying ---- if someone maxed out their skill bar a few times more than I did? It just doesn't affect me in the slightest, so what if a handful of players are already maxed out. That's what MMO players call normal. We expect it.
What does affect me is the loss of dozens of hours worth of exploit free work playing Elite story missions and many, many STF's. That affects me a great deal, and I'm none to happy about it. As Mr. D'Angelo suggested, I submitted my ticket - but I can't say I have much faith in a good outcome there. GM's don't have the best track record in any game I've played, and with an issue like this it sounds like they made up their minds and what's done is done.
if you didn't care you'd have just gotten on with your life. if someone had real convictions they'd just walk away rather then whimper to a bunch of strangers. instead you're sitting at home raging about a video game.
Well, thing is, I really loved STO until this very patch and I would like to continue to do so, but at the current state of affairs, Cryptic has made this impossible. I cannot in good conscience log in again until Cryptic takes responsibility for their own incompetence. Given the choice, I would rather not quit the game, but as it is, all I can do is "whimper away to strangers" in this forum, hoping (most likely in vain) it somehow contributes to a desirable outcome.
if you didn't care you'd have just gotten on with your life. if someone had real convictions they'd just walk away rather then whimper to a bunch of strangers. instead you're sitting at home raging about a video game.
Why do you trivialize what people consider important to them? Some people like sports (and get upset when their teams lose). Some people like TV (and get upset when the mother is killed off to make room for Robin). Some people like video games (and get upset when the games they've invested their time and money into TRIBBLE them over).
So, while it may "just be a video game" it's also a lot more than that. It's the type of entertainment some individuals choose to include in their life. Try to respect that.
Its not just what you killed. It is how fast you killed them.
He explicitly stated they compared your XP per time VS average XP per time. If your DPS was say, 30% lower, you likely would not have been considered to be an exploiter. If you would have left your toon logged on for an hour doing nothing, you may not have been considered an exploiter.
I hope someone in the highter echelons of PWE catches the irony of this. So, I paid D'Angelo hundreds of euros this month, so as to gear up my Aquatic Destroyer (and other ships) to all Ultra Rare Mk XIV, and now I'm an exploiter because I did too much DPS?! Lolwut?! Say it ain't so! Because if it is, then there's not enough voltage in the universe to electroshock me back into coherence! :P
If you are getting XP 17 times the rate of what you normally would before Delta Rising, yes, you should believe that is suspicious and at least consider the possibility you should knock it off.
Well, thing is, I really loved STO until this very patch and I would like to continue to do so, but at the current state of affairs, Cryptic has made this impossible. I cannot in good conscience log in again until Cryptic takes responsibility for their own incompetence. Given the choice, I would rather not quit the game, but as it is, all I can do is "whimper away to strangers" in this forum, hoping (most likely in vain) it somehow contributes to a desirable outcome.
they don't care if you log in. they can click 1 button and see exactly how much money you've spent on sto in the last couple of years. if you're not making them any money then they don't care if you're here or not.
being a free player in a ftp game isn't important to them. nerd rage isn't important to them because for every poster on the forum complaining about their own individual pet peeve there's a couple of hundred who never post on the forum but just play or don't play.
i get that you want to pretend that you're special, but the special ones are the ones who vote with their wallet, not with their words on the weekend when everyone knows the devs and cms are not around.
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Oh I see...so according to your logic if I can do rewarding content or unrewarding content I should always pick the unrewarding content or I am exploiting. So instead of running STF's I should just run the first story mission over and over again?
If you didn't do it then how do you know it was obviously an exploit?
Yeah that was not the point ... before what btw, before Delta Rising ? ... I was talking about old Content (LvL 50) vs. Delta Rising Content (LvL 60)... and if you can't see the enormous HP-Point Increase i.E., which you tediously have to zerg/grind down (aka ~17times longer) ... than I guess all hope is lost for you Sir ...
Yes, while I may not angre with all your posts iconian (not in this thread, in other ones months ago etc) I think the Community has really gone downhill.
I agree alot of mistakes are Cryptics, with some of their communication being really bad in several incidents, but sometimes the reactions I see boggle my mind, and I am sure yours too (please tell me if I am wrong).
May I ask, I vaguely remember the forums just after F2P and during 2012, was it alot nicer than this?
I am sorry, but this is complete and utter bull****.
First of all, if your metrics were working correctly, I would have lost points. I leveled an entire character almost to full using only Tau Dewa Patrols, yet I did not lose a single point. Admittedly, I also leveled a second char using your story missions, doing queues and doffing, yet still, if anyone qualifies for exploiting, it is me and I did not get punished at all.
Furthermore, there has been a vast number of reports, some of which I know for certain to be true that lost points even though they never have ever been in Japori during the last week. Some people were leveling in Argala, a new Delta Quadrant System that was not scaling-bugged and still supplied ample XP, given you were able to kill enemies within a reasonable timeframe (ie: don't be a baddie)
There was even a Level 51 player who reported he lost his single spec point.
To further elaborate on how shockingly inept you are at your job: The Tau Dewa patrol leveling potential was both USED AND REPORTED on Tribble, yet you did NOTHING, in fact, everyone who encountered this on Tribble and reported it must have been utterly convinced that it was intended to work this way, since you didn't change it, despite it being reported repeadetly.
Additionally, in no way did you address the current XP situation. You state in your recent patch notes that XP gain would be increased from a 1.75 modifier to 2.00, so a 12,5% increase, wherin reality you cut XP gain across the board by 70%.
You are either extremely incompetent or deliberatly lying to the playerbase. Choose one.
Oh, and one more thing: "Our communication on this matter was apparently unclear". WELL NO **** SHERLOCK, you put up a sticky that was saying that TD was exploitable and you fixed it. THEN, 6 HOURS LATER YOU EDITED THE POST TO INCLUDE A SECTION THAT SAID THAT SOME PEOPLE WERE PUNISHED FOR IT, IN WHAT HAS TO BE THE MOST COWARDLY THING YOU HAVE EVER DONE IN YOUR LIFE. YOU AND EVERYONE WHO WAS PART OF THAT SHOULD FEEL UTTERLY ASHAMED.
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S08: coming soon
Now Im going to call you out as being a liar. Because anyone thats done any content pre-DR and then experienced the DR Content would be able to reasonably admit that the content in DR takes a hell of a lot longer. Why? Because even on normal setttings Escort like Ships are somewhere in the 71k range and Battleships/Carriers are nearly 200k.
So unless you want to start talking about how you have a 30k DPS boat. I doubt you didnt notice that it takes 10-20 minutes longer in the DQ Patrols then it does in the Tau Dewa Patrols.
That is in no way, shape, or form the argument I am making.
I am saying that 17 times the rate of average XP gain was never the norm, and I think it is intellectually dishonest to state that it ever was.
I could maybe give the convicts a pass if they were new to the game, but when you say you're around since launch... I'm sorry, but you really should know better than to think that could ever be construed as intentional design.
If you are getting XP 17 times the rate of what you normally would before Delta Rising, yes, you should believe that is suspicious and at least consider the possibility you should knock it off.
But I'm also of the opinion this is Cryptic's fault, not the players' fault for taking advantage of this exploit.
I'm just saying that in terms of recognizing intentional vs. unintentional game design, XP rate by a factor of 17 should be extremely obvious to people who have played.
I'm not buying the ignorance pleas from most of these alleged victims.
I have noticed the enemy HP buffs. But in terms of XP gain I have not noticed a particular difference. And certainly not anywhere near enough as to warrant concern.
How would anyone know what's supposed to be "Average" ... you'll still just repeating DEV's ... the point is there is a major difference between the old content & the new one ... so it doesn't matter how often you repeat "Average", because "Average" is subject to change ... obviously ...
That's why the EP was talking about 17 times faster ... not XP -> more HP = more time to shoot something ... basic conecept, isn't it ...
PS : I can even give you the numbers ... Tau Dewa Battleship (=700XP) / Argala DQ-Patrol BS (=1500XP) [before Patch]
Unless somebody else was getting more XP than you by pulling certain tricks. He's not saying that most players running Tau Dewa were getting 17x the intended skillpoints. He's saying a select few were.
I'm all for calling out Cryptic, selectively, but don't assume because you got to 60 +15 or even 60 +60 at Tau Dewa that there weren't people going much faster than you who were using tricks to do it.
There were people grinding enemies on Elite.
There were people grinding patrols on Elite.
There were people utilizing level scaling for weaker enemies while grinding patrols.
There were people utilizing level scaling for weaker enemies while grinding patrols and doing more than one other thing.
I think Cryptic needs to distinguish between these different behaviors first of all. Lumping it all together created a problem. The rollback also seems to have created more noticeable losses for people who gamed the system less or not at all.
I also think players need to stop assuming that they were one of the 300 because they got rolled back. As I can gather, the 300 exploiters did not get rolled back as much as non-exploiters.
Being "punished" with a rollback doesn't make you one of the more severe exploiters or indicate that YOU were progressing at 17x the rate intended. It makes Cryptic bad at implementing solutions and dealing with bugs as they apparently took back a portion of any grind Elite XP, including the non-exploitative kind. And being an exploiter who was progressing at 17x progress apparently means you got "punished" less, if not by percentage then at an absolute level.
If you've been here for 4 years, you should know what average is. And you should most certainly recognize when something is off like 17 times the rate you normally would gain XP.
I'm still not buying the ignorance plea.
Is that a joke? Because it's a pretty silly question.
An exploit is obvious even to those that don't abuse it. I know because I level at the normal rate, when those around me are fully maxed in every tree in the time it takes me to gain 2 levels I know something is up.
I don't have to take part to know it's an exploit, that's silly logic at best.
By your logic I can't know that setting myself on fire would hurt unless I actually try it.
You just did ... *head/wall*
So Enemies in the DQ got buffed ... everything else not so much ... now take a guess ... which one is "Average"
I wasn't gaining XP 17 times faster killing enemies with buffed HP in the DQ patrols. But I also was not affected by any of the punitive rollbacks.
I was gaining what I would consider a normal amount of XP in an average amount of time. But again, I was not one of the people affected.
You JUST posted in the DPS thread where you acknowledged that some people do have absurdly higher than average DPS, and had it before they would have even started leveling beyond 50. Why is something "up" if they happen to be killing things that much faster than you for the purpose of grinding XP?
Of course you didn't, because they were THE ONLY ONES to get BUFFED/SCALED before the patch ...
Def : "above average"
PS : No I didn't notice there was something "off" in Tau Dewa ... I was under the impression the new stuff was somehow bugged, because everything had ridiciously high HP (if you check the Forums, a lot of people do) ... and I was used to shooting down Elite-Enemies within 5min, so why not ... turned out I was wrong ...
LOL you still believe this forum has moderators? LOL
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Don't worry, I'm sure someone will read this soon and be along to remove your skill points. Then you'll have nothing left to complain about.
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Some people prefer to do the right thing, even if it means making sacrifices.
Everything he said is pertinent to this situation and remains unaddressed by Mr. D'Angelo / Cryptic Studios / Perfect Chinese World.
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I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make. Yes, HP buffs can affect the amount of time it takes to kill something. Yes, I do know this is tied into XP rate gain.
However, I also know that there were not only ~250 accounts doing the Tau Dewa Patrol missions. There were way more. And simply doing the Tau Dewa Patrol missions were not enough to warrant punitive rollbacks of specialization points gained.
It required a particular set of variables (from what the EP stated) to get this ridiculously unfair advantage.
Not everybody doing Tau Dewa was getting 17 times the XP rate gain, and that is not something Mr. D'Angelo ever said.
Like anything, there was a spectrum of what was fair and what was unfair. People doing Tau Dewa patrols were apparently judged on a rather forgiving curve. Some got away with more than others. It does not at all imply things like motive, intent, awareness, or reason. It does not imply that these people knew what was average and what was not.
Some people were able to get away with all of their specialization points intact. Some lost a few. Some lost half.
D'Angelo acknowledged that people were understandably taking advantage of the bugs present, but only a select few were taking advantage of them to excess. Those are the people who I think should have known better.
I mean really though, who give a flying ---- if someone maxed out their skill bar a few times more than I did? It just doesn't affect me in the slightest, so what if a handful of players are already maxed out. That's what MMO players call normal. We expect it.
What does affect me is the loss of dozens of hours worth of exploit free work playing Elite story missions and many, many STF's. That affects me a great deal, and I'm none to happy about it. As Mr. D'Angelo suggested, I submitted my ticket - but I can't say I have much faith in a good outcome there. GM's don't have the best track record in any game I've played, and with an issue like this it sounds like they made up their minds and what's done is done.
Well, thing is, I really loved STO until this very patch and I would like to continue to do so, but at the current state of affairs, Cryptic has made this impossible. I cannot in good conscience log in again until Cryptic takes responsibility for their own incompetence. Given the choice, I would rather not quit the game, but as it is, all I can do is "whimper away to strangers" in this forum, hoping (most likely in vain) it somehow contributes to a desirable outcome.
ELITE STF SPEED RECORDS (time on optional remaining):
S07: KASE: 12:54 | CSE: 13:20 | ISE: 12:38 All held personally, my POV
LOR: KASE: 13:19 | CSE: 13:47 | ISE: 13:34 None held personally, other player's POV
S08: coming soon
Why do you trivialize what people consider important to them? Some people like sports (and get upset when their teams lose). Some people like TV (and get upset when the mother is killed off to make room for Robin). Some people like video games (and get upset when the games they've invested their time and money into TRIBBLE them over).
So, while it may "just be a video game" it's also a lot more than that. It's the type of entertainment some individuals choose to include in their life. Try to respect that.
Firesworn Nation (@rswfire) - https://www.firesworn.com
I hope someone in the highter echelons of PWE catches the irony of this. So, I paid D'Angelo hundreds of euros this month, so as to gear up my Aquatic Destroyer (and other ships) to all Ultra Rare Mk XIV, and now I'm an exploiter because I did too much DPS?! Lolwut?! Say it ain't so! Because if it is, then there's not enough voltage in the universe to electroshock me back into coherence! :P
being a free player in a ftp game isn't important to them. nerd rage isn't important to them because for every poster on the forum complaining about their own individual pet peeve there's a couple of hundred who never post on the forum but just play or don't play.
i get that you want to pretend that you're special, but the special ones are the ones who vote with their wallet, not with their words on the weekend when everyone knows the devs and cms are not around.