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Has anyone seen a single response from a Dev today!?!

adorenkoadorenko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
That's it, that's all I want to know.

Edit: As it pertains to the skill point issue.
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Quite a few, yes
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • catjarrettcatjarrett Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    chalpen wrote: »
    Quite a few, yes

    For the skill point issue? Linky? Can't find anything regarding this problem.

    Others, yes. This one, no.
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    catjarrett wrote: »
    For the skill point issue? Linky? Can't find anything regarding this problem.

    Others, yes. This one, no.

    Op edited his post to be more specific.

    No cryptic doesnt have the time to answer everything. They have jobs.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • catjarrettcatjarrett Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    chalpen wrote: »
    Op edited his post to be more specific.

    No cryptic doesnt have the time to answer everything. They have jobs.

    Uh, yeah. And some of those jobs are community management. Like for, say, the community manager.

    They just released a huge patch after a terrible series of PR decisions. They need to man the gates.

    That IS their job.
  • captmasoncaptmason Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    chalpen wrote: »
    Op edited his post to be more specific.

    No cryptic doesnt have the time to answer everything. They have jobs.

    They do not have time to answer everything no, but a simple post to inform the community that an issue such as this would be nice. It would stop the need for 8 posts about it and the spread of 3 different rumors as to why/how it happened.

    as I said here
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    catjarrett wrote: »
    Uh, yeah. And some of those jobs are community management. Like for, say, the community manager.

    They just released a huge patch after a terrible series of PR decisions. They need to man the gates.

    That IS their job.

    Correction:

    A devs job is development of the game. They make mechanics, Hardpoints, graphics, Enviroments.

    What YOU are talking about is Marketing / PR people... The CM's aren't devs.

    It's ok... It's a common misconception appearently.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/search.php?searchid=109318401

    Borticus has been busy discussing bugs today.
  • catjarrettcatjarrett Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Correction:

    A devs job is development of the game. They make mechanics, Hardpoints, graphics, Enviroments.

    What YOU are talking about is Marketing / PR people... The CM's aren't devs.

    It's ok... It's a common misconception appearently.

    No. I'm talking about what I'm talking about. The Community Manager. You know, the guy who's job it is to have his finger on the pulse of what's going on in the game and come in to the community to stop rabid hysteria, paranoia, and rage.

    I'm talking about the community management team (sometimes called the social media team), who interact with the devs on hot button issues so they can disseminate accurate information and dispell rumors.

    What YOU are talking about are programmers on the dev team.

    It's ok...It's a common misconception apparently.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    catjarrett wrote: »
    No. I'm talking about what I'm talking about. The Community Manager. You know, the guy who's job it is to have his finger on the pulse of what's going on in the game and come in to the community to stop rabid hysteria, paranoia, and rage.

    I'm talking about the community management team (sometimes called the social media team), who interact with the devs on hot button issues so they can disseminate accurate information and dispell rumors.

    What YOU are talking about are programmers on the dev team.

    It's ok...It's a common misconception apparently.

    Except, you are confusing Cryptic employees with PWE employees.

    The ones at cryptic work on the game, while the CM's work for PWE. Just Like BranFlakes used to.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Why would they reply to anything when there are still people blindly throwing money at their game?
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  • adorenkoadorenko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    catjarrett wrote: »
    No. I'm talking about what I'm talking about. The Community Manager. You know, the guy who's job it is to have his finger on the pulse of what's going on in the game and come in to the community to stop rabid hysteria, paranoia, and rage.

    I'm talking about the community management team (sometimes called the social media team), who interact with the devs on hot button issues so they can disseminate accurate information and dispell rumors.

    What YOU are talking about are programmers on the dev team.

    It's ok...It's a common misconception apparently.


    anazonda wrote: »
    Except, you are confusing Cryptic employees with PWE employees.

    The ones at cryptic work on the game, while the CM's work for PWE. Just Like BranFlakes used to.

    Ok, let's point all of this at Cryptic/PWE/Arc, whatever, instead of at each other please.
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  • captmasoncaptmason Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    gavinruneblade wrote: »
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/search.php?searchid=109318401

    Borticus has been busy discussing bugs today.

    Yes has has been busy discussing bugs today. Sadly no one has taken a moment to show acknowledgment on and cut off rumors on a bug that has obviously been experienced by many players. A bug that we do not know yet if it will happen again when people gain more specialization points.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    captmason wrote: »
    Yes has has been busy discussing bugs today. Sadly no one has taken a moment to show acknowledgment on and cut off rumors on a bug that has obviously been experienced by many players. A bug that we do not know yet if it will happen again when people gain more specialization points.

    Chances are they are sweating trying to find the issue, before they go in and talk about it.

    As a webdeveloper (not quite the same thing, but similar), I often run into issues that require me to find the cause fast... When that happens, I rarely give a rats butt about all the emails and demands for answers, cause they will always slow me down, hence preventing me from finding and solving the problem in the first place.

    And yes, that has often resulted in me being called to the bosses office, but usually he ends up agreeing with me that ignoring the phone was a good call... (pun intended).
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • catjarrettcatjarrett Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    adorenko wrote: »
    Ok, let's point all of this at Cryptic/PWE/Arc, whatever, instead of at each other please.

    lol *shrug* just snarking back. No malice intended. Nothing wrong with a little sarcasm.

    AND YOU STARTED IT!

    *kicks adorenko in the shins and runs away*
  • captmasoncaptmason Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Chances are they are sweating trying to find the issue, before they go in and talk about it.

    As a webdeveloper (not quite the same thing, but similar), I often run into issues that require me to find the cause fast... When that happens, I rarely give a rats butt about all the emails and demands for answers, cause they will always slow me down, hence preventing me from finding and solving the problem in the first place.

    And yes, that has often resulted in me being called to the bosses office, but usually he ends up agreeing with me that ignoring the phone was a good call... (pun intended).

    I have been there as well. I have done side Developer work for private gaming communities and know that it requires fast and immediate attention, but a quick post about it being known and setting up one main bug thread for the issue or shooting a quick email to a Community Manager telling them to inform everyone that it is a known issue and to make a main bug thread wouldn't take them more than 2-3 minutes tops. Plus most developers are masters at multitasking.
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  • catjarrettcatjarrett Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    captmason wrote: »
    I have been there as well. I have done side Developer work for private gaming communities and know that it requires fast and immediate attention, but a quick post about it being known and setting up one main bug thread for the issue or shooting a quick email to a Community Manager telling them to inform everyone that it is a known issue and to make a main bug thread wouldn't take them more than 2-3 minutes tops. Plus most developers are masters at multitasking.

    Also been on the dev and the community side of it as a moderator for multiple games. People are talking like it's just impossible for the poor devs and community team to keep the public informed. It's not.

    They don't have to go in and post long detailed logs about every dot and tittle they're changing. The moderators are supposed to moderate. Poor oil on troubled waters. The community manager is responsible for getting at least passable answers from the programmers and designing teams, (i.e. "We're working on it, we have no idea, fixed soon, here's the info we need" etc.) and getting the rest of the community moderators to get out there and keep people calm.

    Especially, especially, especially after a huge update, patch, crash, bug, or other event.

    This is SOP. The reason people expect it from Cryptic and PWE is because so many other gaming companies operate that way.
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Ya, I got one. I had to poke someone in the eye to get it tho.
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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Chances are they are sweating trying to find the issue, before they go in and talk about it.

    As a webdeveloper (not quite the same thing, but similar), I often run into issues that require me to find the cause fast... When that happens, I rarely give a rats butt about all the emails and demands for answers, cause they will always slow me down, hence preventing me from finding and solving the problem in the first place.

    And yes, that has often resulted in me being called to the bosses office, but usually he ends up agreeing with me that ignoring the phone was a good call... (pun intended).

    Frost often (but not always) acknowledges bug posts. Even if they can't do anything yet he will sometimes say it's been confirmed or will ask for some specific info lime character names etc.

    So it is a reasonable request from the op.
  • adorenkoadorenko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    catjarrett wrote: »
    lol *shrug* just snarking back. No malice intended. Nothing wrong with a little sarcasm.

    AND YOU STARTED IT!

    *kicks adorenko in the shins and runs away*

    HAHAHA

    /10characters
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  • praefatorpraefator Member Posts: 10
    edited October 2014
    Did you look at the response posted here? http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1268701
  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    praefator wrote: »
    Did you look at the response posted here? http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1268701

    That's regarding the dilithium exploit, not the bug stripping players of skill points. Also while she is awesome, trendy is not a developer.
  • catjarrettcatjarrett Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    adorenko wrote: »
    HAHAHA

    /10characters

    Keeping it mature. All the way.
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The dev's responding to a "does my but look fat in these jeans" thread. Is it good enough?
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • adorenkoadorenko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Hey we got a response:

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=20145391&postcount=15

    Wrong issue though.
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  • catjarrettcatjarrett Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    adorenko wrote: »
    Hey we got a response:

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=20145391&postcount=15

    Wrong issue though.

    Yup, they are FAST on the "VIOLATION! VIOLATION! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!" button.
  • praefatorpraefator Member Posts: 10
    edited October 2014
    Pretty sure that post I linked says that they identified a small number of users that really used the exploit and took action. I'm guessing that is why people lost the points. It matches up.
  • catjarrettcatjarrett Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    praefator wrote: »
    Pretty sure that post I linked says that they identified a small number of users that really used the exploit and took action. I'm guessing that is why people lost the points. It matches up.

    Except some folks are saying they lost points and have never flown ship in Japori (where the issue was), or run any mission on Elite.

    It does not match up.

    It does match up as a bug because they mucked about with the spec tree.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    catjarrett wrote: »
    Uh, yeah. And some of those jobs are community management. Like for, say, the community manager.

    They just released a huge patch after a terrible series of PR decisions. They need to man the gates.

    That IS their job.

    Indeed. I'm beginnig to wish branflakes were back.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    catjarrett wrote: »
    Except some folks are saying they lost points and have never flown ship in Japori (where the issue was), or run any mission on Elite.

    It does not match up.

    It does match up as a bug because they mucked about with the spec tree.

    Oh, I've flown plenty on Elite! (In fact, all of it, LOL). But all solo-ed, and nowhere near Japori, or Tau Dewa in general.
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  • adorenkoadorenko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Indeed. I'm beginnig to wish branflakes were back.

    he's still with the company, just higher up now.
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