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Again, why the need for TWO Dyson Spheres?
newplayerguy7
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Wouldn't it have been much more simple to have just one sphere located where the Jenolan one is now?
(The Voth content area would be in one part of it and the Delta Command/Space Door would be in another part of the gigantic thing.)
(The Voth content area would be in one part of it and the Delta Command/Space Door would be in another part of the gigantic thing.)
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Besides, they mention in the story that the Solenae sphere is uninhabitable thanks to the star partially going nova 9or something). Makes sense they would have built a replacement. It's probably easier to build a sphere than it is to 'fix' a star.
They're different Spheres, in totally different parts of the galaxy... They're just two of potentially countless more, which have yet to be discovered...
Ehh, I dunno about that. I think a type III civilization can probably handle a tune-up job on a star. :P
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First, why do you need a sphere at all when you have gates that flash you across the galaxy in an instant?
The answer to both questions is power projection and logistics. Gates aren't everywhere, and when you're managing a galaxy wide empire, stuff can happen simultatiously in opposite sides of the galaxy at the same time.
If the incident is big enough, you'll want as strong of a presence as possible in those areas that can supply your military with all it's needs on the spot, with very little travel time.
The Gates are great for day to day operations and small rebellions, but for big sector wide rebellions and military battles you want something more, and when you're entire galaxy goes up in rebellion you'll want to be everywhere at once.
Multiple spheres only make sense in that case.
The real question is, how many more are there and why did they leave... both spheres. The hypothisis was that they left the Solanae sphere because of the star going mini-nova, but most likely a civilization that can builds and sustain a mobile dyson sphere, can regenerate a star.
Also that hypothisis is great for the Solanae sphere, but not for the Jolan sphere which has no such star problem.
Also since Dyson Spheres are self-sustaining even if they somehow didn't get any more logistic input, they should still at least been able to survive.
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While the Expanded Universe of Star Wars has a lot of doomsday weapons, they never had a 3rd Death Star as far as I recall. There was one novel where they just created the superlaser using the same designs as the Death Stars' superlaser, but nothing else related to the Death Star.
1. TNG Series - Jenolan Dyson sphere found (Scotty Episode)
2. STO late 2409 - Iconian gateways activate, Solanae sphere found.
3. Attempt to activate the Solanae warp system. At same time, Jenolan sphere reports as "jumping away".
4. Undine begin incursioning via Jenolan into Solanae. Following Undine back through, find they're cutting through Jenolan to get at Solanae.
5. Use Solanae as gateway to Jenolan, known to be located in Delta Quadrant. Begin "torturing" *ahem* reacquainting ourselves with the Delta Quadrant races...
Hence two spheres...
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Incorrect. A warlord named Devian (I think) built one.
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In TNG "Relics", it turned out that the Jenolen sphere was abandoned for a similar reason - its parent star was unstable and throwing off deadly radiation.
Strictly speaking, we ARE using gates to get to the Delta Quadrant - gates that happen to be located inside the two spheres, as shown in "A Step Between Stars". This fact is somewhat obscured by the devs (thankfully) sparing us the rigamarole of having to physically fly through each gate to get from Tau Dewa block to the Delta Quadrant and back.
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At the first mention of a dyson sphere, i'm sure everyone immediately imagined how cool it was going to be to enter and exit through the main door. (very disappointing with how they made that work btw)
When you Icogate to Jenolan, you are already oriented perpendicular to the ground, ready to exit the sphere, so there is no major pitch involved. However, if you were able to exit the same sphere that sphere content is played in, you would have to pitch straight down to exit, in an area where you can also fly parallel with the ground.
But if that were possible, lots of people would start asking why we can't fly straight up or down anywhere else.
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If they can find a market for it, than you better believe it will happen.
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Sounds about right but, what they fail to mention, is the price of one sphere, is the equivalent of 2!
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That is absolutely incorrect.
It's more.
Only in the US, for things purchased by the military.
How else do they fund their shadow operations while building battlecruisers to deal with the replicator/Goauld/Prior menace?
(possible reason)
The energy it would take to replicate and construct it could have also been generated from the star it's self or near by stars and moved into position.
hence (replicators use energy) and so would very sophisticated replication methods.
These 2 Spheres may easily be millions or more years apart in age and as one has outlived it's usefulness, the other could have been constructed to be it's replacement, also, Star Trek only seems to cover "The Milky Way" check NASA's site for more galaxies, now that would be interesting to see in Star Trek lore (if JJ din't kill the main timeline ... lol)
not really "the" answer at all, just a hypothesis.
(i still believe 2 even in a galaxy and even a game is kinda... odd lol)
because two spheres are better than one...everyone knows that
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1.) The Spheres are Logistic Points. An entire Star System worth of resources within a protective shell.
2.) The Spheres act as safeguards for the Gates. If the Gates were just parked in open space. It be quite easy for a rebellious group of Aliens to ambush the Iconians as they came out of their Gateway.
3.) Projection of Power and Influence. Every time a starship flies passed a Sphere. The people onboard are reminded that whoever built them were all powerful.
what makes you think theres only two, there could be as many dyson spheres as there are iconian gateways.
just because we haven't found them yet doesn't mean their not out there.
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Building planets and stars is easy, completely silly to build a sphere around a star. A Ring World would be slightly less stupid....Slightly.
The only explanation I can think of is that they didn't want to place the BZ in the Jenolan sphere, then found another use for it.
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I think this all works. Mind you, my preference would have been to simply have the Jenolan sphere first (which could be added as an expansion to the east of Tau Dewa) and the Solonae sphere be the terminus in the Delta Quadrant rather than actually moving the spheres. But that's where we are.
I tend to just press F through everything; but considering they are physically located in different spaces; and even the CS's explain it cut and dry I'm a little confused on the question as well.