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vetteguy904
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it's unbelievable.. the constant crying on these forums.
"THERE'S NO NEW CONTENT"
"IT'S TOO EASY"
WHEN CAN WE RAISE THE LEVEL CAP?"
so here it is. and people are crying
so I put it to you. Should DR have been a paid for expansion like WoW does?
continue adding the odd level 50 missions/episodes for the Alpha quadrant, and level 60 in the DR paid for content.. or something like that?
what's the solution? I know your TRIBBLE ship is no longer the OP machine. that's the nature of it. Remember when the Excelsior Cruiser and Defiant-R were the bleeding edge OP? then came fleets.. and lockboxes.
the only problem is how to get the hero ships to level 6-6.5 / whatever.
or just learn to embrace change.
"THERE'S NO NEW CONTENT"
"IT'S TOO EASY"
WHEN CAN WE RAISE THE LEVEL CAP?"
so here it is. and people are crying
so I put it to you. Should DR have been a paid for expansion like WoW does?
continue adding the odd level 50 missions/episodes for the Alpha quadrant, and level 60 in the DR paid for content.. or something like that?
what's the solution? I know your TRIBBLE ship is no longer the OP machine. that's the nature of it. Remember when the Excelsior Cruiser and Defiant-R were the bleeding edge OP? then came fleets.. and lockboxes.
the only problem is how to get the hero ships to level 6-6.5 / whatever.
or just learn to embrace change.
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Serious note: Good post!
I like the current model. I can play most of it for free and pay for what I want. Looking at Wow and other games expansions cost 49.99.
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I guess i have been away from game too long but before it was enjoyable now its like spend your money or you will not be able to enjoy this game.
It is $30 for ONE pile of pixels (ship) with no free alternatives that same $30 in a paid for expansion gives you new classes/races and more then just 17 new story missions and a couple new stf's.
This "expansion" was really just a whole bunch of dilithium/zen sinks to get players to empty their pockets.
Yes, absolutely, wholeheartely 100%. I'd pay $60 for an expansion to not have to deal with the timegate-extortion that is this new system.
Although like WoW...any game that keeps raising the level cap has got to go from my playlist. I'll deal with this one...but probably not the next.
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people crying about people crying on these forums.
oh and
people crying about people crying about people crying on these forums.
it just goes on and on. get over it if you are not crying about something in the forums your not trying hard enough.
...you act surprised.
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Wait, we are not Borg?
Then what's with the voices in my head?
I'm usually one to think that this forum is being too negative.
Not here. The cacophony is justified.
No, they just lock it behind RNGs is all.
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Hmm, you mentioning all that... doesn't that make you the worst crier?
If it would mean their focus would be on creating lots of quality content and not on the grind-o-rama style play and lockboxes . . . yes, maybe I would actually rather pay for a content expansion. Food for thought.
WoW expansion is actually cheap, it's the subscription that costs you. If there's 2yrs between expansions then you'll spend an extra $300-$360 on top of the $50 for the actual expansion.
So you could play WoW, get NO goodies you didn't grind out for in-game currencies or have 35,000 Zen (42350 - if bought during a sale) to spend on goodies in STO.
But there is the question of quality, amount of content and value. (And maybe how much keeping the F2P riff-raff out is worth?)
Personally, I liked how STO was being developed before F2P. It just seemed that they cared more about making a good product than just a grind-fest. They actually made cosmetic things like bridge packs, costumes, emotes and alternate ship parts. Things that didn't make the C-store a P2W store.
No, it shouldn't be. If STO ever goes to P2P, that'll be the update that makes me quit. I support the game by buying ships and other C-Store gear.
Frankly, I don't trust Cryptic/PWE/the Devs to deliver a quality product that I would be willing to pay for. We have source code that's so fragmented and buggy that they can't fix bugs without introducing new bugs (see the most recent patch notes,) bugs that should have been fixed years ago but weren't, and stuff that the devs can't figure out how to change, because a previous dev worked on it and they aren't with the company anymore.
Do you really think Cryptic can put out a expansion that is worth actual money?
Why? Do you think the ranters will run out of ranting before then?
I would buy future expansions actually provided the devs listen to the tribble testers and actually take casual players into consideration when changing things significantly.
if they did that id buy it.
that being said I just wanna reply to your "mock" up of what people have been raging about.
Theres no new content: I haven't seen that type of rage on this game in quite some time not since before LoR anyway.
Its too easy: As the saying goes in the economies of countries, blame the 1%ers. I.e the hardcore nut-jobs who only care about their experience and not the communities.
Level cap: Meh everyone knew it was coming again havent seen this in a while.
Generally though I think this is what's wrong with the F2P model it simply just doesn't add quality.
I know a lot of people seem to hate ESO for instance but the quality of content they produce is epic beyond belief and they actually fix things.
So yeah I think STO should start charging for its expansions starting with the next one. Provided they prove to us within the next two weeks that they listen and will fix the problems otherwise it will be pointless and people wont pay albeit the casual vets like myself + others as well as the hardcore players.
as that saying goes get what you paid for
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(the dilithium exchange is simply buying zen from someone who has purchased it from PWE already)
I find packs like the delta rising to be insane $125 for 9 ships and some other trinkets.
By now: Yes... I would much rather pay for an expansion, than sit on the sideline and get left behind like I am right now.
With neither the time or the money to upgrade my ship, I am seriously stuck, and can't bring myself to go into STF's, knowing that my ship is so far behind par, that I would be a inconvenience to anyone I went into battle with.
So yea, if I got the free access to ship upgrades, I'd pay for an expansion, with a simile.
The irony of this argument is that the WoW players cried just as much as the STO players so it is a relevant comparison.
nah think that if you like
you want quality meaningful content your going to have to pay for it or you have a game like sto
system Lord Baal is dead
Normal - LEAVE IT BEEEEEE DILL REWARD AND ALL
Elite(ADVANCED) - RENAME SEEN THIS COMINGHELLO ADVANCED R&D REWARD PACKS NOT TRIBBLE THE POOCH ALL FOR PPL WITH 35-50 DPS HELLO I FLY A TRYING NOT TO USE FOWL LANGUAGE SCIENCE SHIP FOR CROWD CONTROL A@@HOLE SO NO I WASN'T CRYING IT WAS EASY I AM THE ONE WHO BLEW UP ALOT. LEAVE DIL REWARD ALONE ITS JUSTIFIED FOR THE EFFORT.
Elite - SET IT TO LEVEL 60 EQUIREMENTS TO PLAY AND INCREASE DIL REWARD TO 1480 AND PREVIOUS NORMAL WAS 480 PREVIOUS ELITE WAS 980, FOR THOSE WHO ARE FAN BOOOOOYYYYSSSS OR LIKE BROWN NOSES THERES A TREND HERE 500 INCREASE ON DIFFICULTY HELL CANT REFINE MORE THEN 8K POSSIBLY 9K CERTAIN PPL.
So to close my statement I am seriously downloading SWTOR on my comp right now as one would expect this level of throw you in the trash treatment from them and at least PLAYERS DECISIONS HAVE IMPACT ON STORY LINE. So no I will notplay the new TRIBBLE story line not even for Jerry Ryans parts or suffer thru 1000k plus fail pub matches all because a few select people on TRIBBLE WITH HELP OF THE REQ CONSOLE DPS'D THE TRIBBLE OUT OF THE ADVANCED AND ELITE hello in holodeck unless the pocket and banks are essentially well of money to spare like top 1% then no I for one can not ever hope to achieve ALLLLLLLL GOOLLLDDDD status in my life time.
Completely agree even on my limited budget SWTOR treats me better then the PAYWALL of endless sleep inducing grind.