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redshirtjohnson
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just hear me out, we are talking about ships from the 29th century that travel in time and would
actively need cloaking devices. please think about it. I know it will take some time to get this in game but it would be nice now that we've got the extra console slot with the T5-Us...
what do you think. good idea, way too powerful or what else.
actively need cloaking devices. please think about it. I know it will take some time to get this in game but it would be nice now that we've got the extra console slot with the T5-Us...
what do you think. good idea, way too powerful or what else.
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I had that coming didn't I... I'm not asking for an "I Win" button. just a logical side-grade that would be standard equipment for a ship from the 29th century...
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How about just letting them equip the cloaking device console. It would be a standard cloak and would force the player to give up a console slot for the cloak. (Not as big of a loss as it used to be but its something)
However, shafting the federation by severely limiting their ability to cloak and doing the opposite for the other factions is basically a tradition for Cryptic, and it's highly unlikely this will ever change.
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Why wouldn't it still be in effect? Most treaties between the US and USSR are still in effect.
I like that idea, but the problem is the KDF can't get cloak as a console.
The other possibility is that 29th Century sensors are so far advanced that cloaking devices are meaningless so cloaking devices are only used to observe less advanced races. So they are only used in non-combat scenarios.
Well, the systems on the boats we have access to have been nerfed.
Otherwise we'd be merrily zipping through time a lot more than a few seconds at a time.
Seems to me that, while the originals may well have had phase cloaks that worked, the ones we can access to have the capability removed.
Although, the infrastructure remains, so a lesser cloak could be retrofitted.
KDF Timeship should just have a cloak standard, no console needed.
Then it gets an extra console slot, relative to its Romulan or Fed version if they too want to cloak.
Tell you what, how about this?
A temporal cloak console, only equippable on time ships.
Not a battle cloak, a standard one, but it's highly resistent to snooper builds and also adds kinetic resistence while on.
200 lobi.
ETA could even get a set bonus with the rest of the Temporal Warfare set.
I can dig it
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I like what I'm hearing. and would willingly spend the lobi for it.
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Or the 29th Century ships have been gutted by the Tholians of all the useful technology for their own purposes. There are far too many systems that have been removed from these ships and the cloaking devices is a very minor system that has been removed. With a 29th Century ship, I should be able to one-shot any enemy in the game and be able to withstand the entire might of the Borg Collective. A cloaking device pales in comparison to those feats.
When two organisations make a contract or treaty and one organisation is destroyed or disbanded said contract becomes null and void.
so wit hthe collapse of the empire and a majority of them changing sides and joining the republic its logical to assume that the treaty is no longer in effect because well... the empires dead... the republic is new.. they'd have to resign it with them and there's no indication it has been.
Id also like to point that the battleship we've got on the c-store and in the fleet area are able to equip cloaking devices suggesting that the treaty became null and void.
of course various other ships can do it but yeah I highly doubt that there's any reason to assume the treaty is still in effect so its should be totally do-able.
Pretty much this.
The Wells had stood at the top of the heap in Science Vessels for a very long time. It does not need any more enhancements.
What the hell else do people want the Temporal Vessel to do? Cook you breakfast in the morning, too?
Make that an all-day breakfast and you've got a deal.
I imagine it might've been some kind of temporal cloak that shifts the ship slightly out of the current timeframe, similar to how the Devidians hide.
Since the ships are so advanced, trying to use a standard 25th century cloak might be as pointless as trying to run Commodore 64 software on a Windows 8 machine...
So here's my contender:
Temporal Cloaking Device
Equips on any timeship, yadda, yadda.
In the future, cloaking is accomplished by warping your vessel's image and energy signature off your hull and back in time.
So your ship cloaks. A visible copy of your ship appears behind your cloaked ship. So it indicates your position while cloaked but you aren't actually targetable, just your decoy. If your decoy is destroyed, you decloak.
Maybe instead of Temporal Cloaking Device, simply call it Temporal Divergence and have it drop a decoy while you are cloaked. But you stay cloaked until you manually decloak or the decoy dies..
Think of it as a combo Picard Maneuver/Cloak.
Also changing the mobius console would be useful because right now it's a garbage console.
I'd rather have them made full T6 than get a cloak and I have all 3 on my Engineer.
If any existing ships should have been tier 6, it would be the temporal ones.
So yea, give us that boff seat and call it a T6!
You can't really compare it to the real world. The gap in years between the treaty of Algeron being signed and the creation of the Temporal ships is vast, plus, the Romulan Star Empire that forced the Federation into singing the treaty no longer exists in any real practical form in the 25th century, never mind the 29th. Hence why I say it's unlikely.
However. One side can still uphold the ideal's behind the treaty even if the other side doesn't exist anymore.
So even IF the traty desnt apply, doesn't mean starfleets ideal's have changed so much that they decide to put cloaking devices on everything.
A few shipos every now and then, not much of a problem, every ship in starfleet? big ideal change.
Any bone head can see that not being able to cloak puts you at a severe tactical disadvantage. It would be asinine to uphold a treaty that gimps every aspect of space combat, and travel if you didn't have to.
If Voyager could of cloaked, the series would of been rather boring, but they certainly would of been able to bypass a lot of danger they otherwise wouldn't of been able to; as an example.