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prierinprierin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
I’m just curious… even with the expansion into the Delta Quad, a few new boats and some story missions, is there any actual longevity to STO? I’ll be honest… it has been felling like a humdrum game for me for a while now. Log in, do my dil runs, do a fleet alert or two, get some marks, then go off and play something else… rinse and repeat. Anyone else feeling like this?

I’m not poo-pooing the game, I’m just saying it doesn’t have the shine to it that is needed to keep people playing year in and year out. Once your characters are done with DR and any new rep that may come of it, what are you going to do besides the same linear, never-ending grind? Sure, it’s fun to hang out with friends and fleeties but even that charm tarnishes after a while.
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  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,326 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    prierin wrote: »
    I’m just curious… even with the expansion into the Delta Quad, a few new boats and some story missions, is there any actual longevity to STO? I’ll be honest… it has been felling like a humdrum game for me for a while now. Log in, do my dil runs, do a fleet alert or two, get some marks, then go off and play something else… rinse and repeat. Anyone else feeling like this?

    I’m not poo-pooing the game, I’m just saying it doesn’t have the shine to it that is needed to keep people playing year in and year out. Once your characters are done with DR and any new rep that may come of it, what are you going to do besides the same linear, never-ending grind? Sure, it’s fun to hang out with friends and fleeties but even that charm tarnishes after a while.

    I'd say its got at least another 4 years in it as long as we keep getting new content. And if the charm of playing with friends wears out well that problem will exiast for you in all games.
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  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited October 2014
    Perhaps a new playable race, sometime in the new year.

    The groundwork for either the Cardassians or the free borg might be direction they're headed. At the very least a new class of captain, likely the Intelligence class.

    Maybe a new and balanced PvP system to engage new players and old.

    Or even better, a commitment to new and engaging content with an emphasis on exploring strange new worlds.

    Yeah... That's the ticket.

    - or -

    A relentless grind to complete R&D and fulfil my ever-increasing desire to eat dilithium to gain a meager 0.08% increase in my DPS, while playing potentially cool new content for ever decreasing dilithium rewards.


    Yeah... That's really the ticket.
  • zarxidejackozarxidejacko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    prierin wrote: »
    After DR, then what?

    Answer: Doom!
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    They have stated to expect more regular updates in addition to the large releases like this. They will be adding more content to the new quadrant as time goes. They stated in a recent interview that a lot of the regular updates would be story-based.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    prierin wrote: »
    I’m just curious… even with the expansion into the Delta Quad, a few new boats and some story missions, is there any actual longevity to STO? I’ll be honest… it has been felling like a humdrum game for me for a while now. Log in, do my dil runs, do a fleet alert or two, get some marks, then go off and play something else… rinse and repeat. Anyone else feeling like this?

    I’m not poo-pooing the game, I’m just saying it doesn’t have the shine to it that is needed to keep people playing year in and year out. Once your characters are done with DR and any new rep that may come of it, what are you going to do besides the same linear, never-ending grind? Sure, it’s fun to hang out with friends and fleeties but even that charm tarnishes after a while.

    probably more additional content to DR for a while, after that? who knows.
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  • coolheadalcoolheadal Member Posts: 1,253 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    There are many other races that they have yet to tap into. We just get a brief encounter with them. Why not do a mission to Q Home world. What happen to the old races, or the first ones that Captain James T. Kirk and Gorn Captain had stumbled across.

    Those other planets like Mira or the one where robots were entertaining the crew on one of the original Star Trek Series. What about the Machine Planet that was in the Star Trek Motion Picture. Or go back in time where the first prior to the Borg Home World. Then you have the Iconlan's 250,000 years bla, bla..

    Keep us all here entertained with very good story or mission lines. Do some missions on Earth not at Academy, but like over the bridge to New San Francisco.

    Been talk about hollow earth do something with that. Alien's living in inner earth. So much they can do but I hope they do something more after Delta Rising.. ;)
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Theres an easy way to know when the game dies:

    Once we defeat the Iconians, and/or get Iconian and full Borg ships in Lock-boxes, that's when you should re-evaluate spending money on the game.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
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  • reynoldsxdreynoldsxd Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The Delta quadrant has never been fleshed out, there is years over years of stuff to fit in there.
    They can make up what they want, there is no cannon to restrict them. Why give it up. And why would we want them to give it up.

    How is "exploring" an area well withing romulan/federation/klingon borders even exploration...
    Setting up an exploration system that doesn't suck in the delta quad makes a lot more sense because again: no baggage.




    At some point cryptic will uplift the borg to "scary" again because the last few expansions we have seen the borg getting curbstomped left and right by just about anyone.
  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    They have stated to expect more regular updates in addition to the large releases like this. They will be adding more content to the new quadrant as time goes. They stated in a recent interview that a lot of the regular updates would be story-based.

    Hmmm .... , did they say "new content in addition to expansions" ?
    Cuz I remember the former, not the latter .

    I also remember the "expect more story content" -- but then again I also remember similar sayings about added Romulan content after LOR was released ... and I think that turned out to be the Elachi lockbox . ;)

    At any rate, if we go by the usual Cryptic Dev schedule , DA will be followed by burnout / bug fixes, which will be followed by some work on the winter event, which will be followed by work on the anniversary, which will be followed by :
    Either parallel work on the summer event & X3, or
    Work on the summer event and more of that story content that they are promising now ... -- that is if next year we won't have x3 .
  • blevokblevok Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    i'd love to see a DS9 revamp, turning the station into a big adventure zone, and adding gamma quadrant exploration. a civilian faction could be added at the same time.
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  • reynoldsxdreynoldsxd Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    blevok wrote: »
    i'd love to see a DS9 revamp, turning the station into a big adventure zone, and adding gamma quadrant exploration. a civilian faction could be added at the same time.

    Gamma quadrant exploration?!



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  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Theres an easy way to know when the game dies:

    Once we defeat the Iconians, and/or get Iconian and full Borg ships in Lock-boxes, that's when you should re-evaluate spending money on the game.

    Or Cryptic and Paramount start collaborating a potential JJTrek expac that thrusts us into the rebooted universe where everything will explode every ten seconds and your screen gets lens flared like the Hubble Telescope pointed straight at the sun.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    prierin wrote: »
    I’m just curious… even with the expansion into the Delta Quad, a few new boats and some story missions, is there any actual longevity to STO? I’ll be honest… it has been felling like a humdrum game for me for a while now. Log in, do my dil runs, do a fleet alert or two, get some marks, then go off and play something else… rinse and repeat. Anyone else feeling like this?

    I’m not poo-pooing the game, I’m just saying it doesn’t have the shine to it that is needed to keep people playing year in and year out. Once your characters are done with DR and any new rep that may come of it, what are you going to do besides the same linear, never-ending grind? Sure, it’s fun to hang out with friends and fleeties but even that charm tarnishes after a while.

    Play any game week in and week out for nearly 5 years and people will get bored. you have seen everything, done everything.

    we get new content on a fairly regular basis but once that is done you are still back to having seen and done everything. what else can they do? what's the solution that keeps the game fresh?
  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    edited October 2014
  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Play any game week in and week out for nearly 5 years and people will get bored. you have seen everything, done everything.

    we get new content on a fairly regular basis but once that is done you are still back to having seen and done everything. what else can they do? what's the solution that keeps the game fresh?

    Cross over with Doctor Who?

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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Or Cryptic and Paramount start collaborating a potential JJTrek expac that thrusts us into the rebooted universe where everything will explode every ten seconds and your screen gets lens flared like the Hubble Telescope pointed straight at the sun.

    DON'T even go there...
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • apsciliaraapsciliara Member Posts: 247 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Or Cryptic and Paramount start collaborating a potential JJTrek expac that thrusts us into the rebooted universe where everything will explode every ten seconds and your screen gets lens flared like the Hubble Telescope pointed straight at the sun.

    Good thing you can turn those off :D
  • thomaselkinsthomaselkins Member Posts: 575 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Really? There are a lot of things which could be added to this game after Delta Rising. We're only getting something like two sectors of the Delta Quadrant to start with, which means there is plenty of room to add more. Not every single species or civilization is appearing right away which means they can be added at a later date. We also have the Gamma Quadrant which is mostly unexplored, which I always found odd considering there is a fully functional wormhole to that area of space and yet we know more about the Delta Quadrant than we do Gamma.

    Not even the Alpha and Beta Quadrants have been fully expanded yet because there are plenty of locations worth visiting there. I would like to see the Breen expanded on with maybe a first look at their homeworld. Is the planet actually a frozen wasteland like everyone says or is Wayoun's gossip true and Breen is actually very temperate? The Tholians should appear again sometime too, with their space added to the Galaxy map. They've caused so many problems for us all so far and I would hate for them to just get away with it. More homeworlds in general should be added to the game, like Betazed, Tellar or Bolius. These are planets we hear about from time to time but we never really get to see them.

    The Iconians might be an old race, (200,000 years), but they're not the oldest nor the most advanced civilization on the block. I think it would be neat to learn more about the Tkon Empire who existed around 600,000 years ago. They had the ability to move entire star systems, but they died out not long after they failed to save their own star before it went Supernova. Despite the failure it seems odd that they would all die out that way when there were Trillions of them spread throughout a massive empire. At least one of their Portals was still in operation as of the 24th century and I think it would be neat if we found more. Maybe even found survivors?

    What about the Organians? They are an incredibly powerful non-corporeal civilization which had the power to prevent the Federation and Klingon Empires from destroying each other, but where are they now? Where were they when the Federation and Klingons went to war in the 2370s? Where were they when the Dominion invaded or even now when the Feds and Klinks were at it again in 2409? Now we've got the Iconians causing all manner of trouble and the Organians don't care? They should be brought into the game at some point. Maybe we can take a trip to Organia and explore the surface? It could actually give us a medieval like environment to explore without needing the use of Time Travel because Organia had a primitive look to it, despite the fact the Organians are actually beyond us.

    If you're bored with the Milky Way Galaxy, we've learned that Iconian Gateways are active within the Andromeda Galaxy. I'm sure Cryptic could have a lot of fun developing an entirely new and unexplored Galaxy. Star Trek the Original Series also provided us with at least one canon civilization with which we can encounter once we get there as well: The Kelvan Empire. I can imagine that the increasing radiation levels which threaten Andromeda could be the result of the Iconians actions. It would be interesting if the Iconians are staging an assault of the Milky Way from Andromeda and when we thwart that invasion we enter a Gateway and take the fight to them in Andromeda. Perhaps they are already at war with the Kelvans?

    STO could do so much more.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Our galaxy alone contains around 100–400 billion stars and then there's other galaxies, parallel universes, time travel... I'm fairly certain STO isn't going to run out of places to go anytime soon. :D
  • venkouvenkou Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Star Trek: Online is a good game for blowing off time. When it comes to its longevity, Star Trek: Online has made it it up to this point. No one knows what the future holds. We will have to wait and see.
  • kurumimorishitakurumimorishita Member Posts: 1,410 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Theres an easy way to know when the game dies:

    Once we defeat the Iconians, and/or get Iconian and full Borg ships in Lock-boxes, that's when you should re-evaluate spending money on the game.

    I don't think so.. the Iconians are THE looming threat since the very beginning of STO, so somehow it's even time that we finally face them and bring that "chapter" to an end.. and I really hope that it will end before they will do a Gamma quadrant expansion.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I don't think so.. the Iconians are THE looming threat since the very beginning of STO, so somehow it's even time that we finally face them and bring that "chapter" to an end.. and I really hope that it will end before they will do a Gamma quadrant expansion.
    ...actually, I expect the Gamma Quadrant (and the Dominion) to become more involved before we actually get to face the Iconians.

    Think back to the first sphere episode, where we were in that giant room with those moving steps; one terminal had information on the Dominion, and the general census was that the Dominion are too big a threat at the moment, and that the Iconian needed to control the Alpha and Beta Quadrants before moving against the Dominion.

    I believe one of the Vorta in the 2800 series also stated they're aware of the Iconian too.
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    They stated in a recent interview that a lot of the regular updates would be story-based.
    That's what they always say, because that's what people want. And then, they add just add grind content, because that's what people do and expect to have.

    Just look how many story content we had since the Dominion return ? We had revamp of old content, which is great but is not very new, it was just in dire need of revamp. And about 4-5 missions, that's barely an entire story arc.
    On the other hand, 2 dyson sphere, with space and ground adventure zone, Nukara + New Romulus ground adventure zone, several reputations, craft grind, ad the list go on and on.

    I fully expect a single mission for every season, and a lot of grind in them.

    Then, a new expansion, lots of stuff to buy, lots of money for cryptic, and lots of marketing around to attract new people.
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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Well, there's the winter event, Season 10, and the next Grindiversary. The Fed's Romulan story arc is also due for a quality pass, and the devs apparently are taking a look at the bridge officer skill system.
  • the1tiggletthe1tigglet Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    They have stated to expect more regular updates in addition to the large releases like this. They will be adding more content to the new quadrant as time goes. They stated in a recent interview that a lot of the regular updates would be story-based.

    I do hope so as well. If LOTRO can do it in between expansions STO can get those types of updates to flesh out the universe so to speak.
  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Like all F2P game, as long as the game can generate a good stream of revenue from suckers... I mean the player base... then the game should continue.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Play any game week in and week out for nearly 5 years and people will get bored. you have seen everything, done everything.

    we get new content on a fairly regular basis but once that is done you are still back to having seen and done everything. what else can they do? what's the solution that keeps the game fresh?

    new content wont change anything, the very idea of what content is needs more elaboration to bring a whole new way of getting content without it turning into something best to be avoided with a massive sigh for just looking at it.
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