Grinding Dilithium ore straight to "refined"...please!!!

unclereeky · October 2014

Is there a way to do away with the "8,000 dilithium per day" limit. With the new upgrade system out and operational now..dilithium doesn't last as long..no where near as long. We have people spending all day on the Spire Ground Battle zone just to get the dilithium ore to be able to refine it..8,000 per day. Whether its done 8,000 ore at a time or it goes straight to refined dilithium..people are still going to grind for it..or even buy and sell zen for it..regardless..the amount of dilithium needed to play now is off the charts..especially if you want to upgrade the items your character(s) have. Just on my main character alone..I have spent over 600,000 dilithium in the past week just to upgrade my weapons, ship shields, engine, warp core and deflector..lets not forget my ground weapons, shields, armor and kits. That is what is has cost just on one character..so why would it hurt to have all the ore we grind to go directly to refined dilithium? This is one of the biggest grumblings I've heard..or seen in the chat since the upgrade system went into place. People can come up with the ec's..grinding is easy..ec's are ec's..no conversion there..but when you have to grind for dilithium..then only get 8,000 per day..that doesn't even cover upgrading a very rare item to ultra..if you use basic upgrades..that's 700 dilithium an upgrade..improved upgrades take 950/upgrade and superior take 1075 per upgrade..that doesn't even include the "finishing" upgrade amount of dilithium you need just to get the weapon out of the upgrade when finished..That can be anywhere from 1000 dilithium up to 3000 dilithium..(those are estimates).
I really think that the conversion from ore to refined should be phased out and we should be able to grind for refined dilithium. Or..maybe make a doff mission where you can refine a bigger specific amount..say like 50,000..for a success..if you get a critical success..you can get an extra 50%(25,000) refined also. Just an idea. But from what I'm seeing and hearing..I know I'm not the only one that's going to be submitting ideas such as this one.

thank you for you time,

Unclereeky

jarodroto123 · October 2014

unclereeky wrote: »

Is there a way to do away with the "8,000 dilithium per day" limit. With the new upgrade system out and operational now..dilithium doesn't last as long..no where near as long. We have people spending all day on the Spire Ground Battle zone just to get the dilithium ore to be able to refine it..8,000 per day. Whether its done 8,000 ore at a time or it goes straight to refined dilithium..people are still going to grind for it..or even buy and sell zen for it..regardless..the amount of dilithium needed to play now is off the charts..especially if you want to upgrade the items your character(s) have. Just on my main character alone..I have spent over 600,000 dilithium in the past week just to upgrade my weapons, ship shields, engine, warp core and deflector..lets not forget my ground weapons, shields, armor and kits. That is what is has cost just on one character..so why would it hurt to have all the ore we grind to go directly to refined dilithium? This is one of the biggest grumblings I've heard..or seen in the chat since the upgrade system went into place. People can come up with the ec's..grinding is easy..ec's are ec's..no conversion there..but when you have to grind for dilithium..then only get 8,000 per day..that doesn't even cover upgrading a very rare item to ultra..if you use basic upgrades..that's 700 dilithium an upgrade..improved upgrades take 950/upgrade and superior take 1075 per upgrade..that doesn't even include the "finishing" upgrade amount of dilithium you need just to get the weapon out of the upgrade when finished..That can be anywhere from 1000 dilithium up to 3000 dilithium..(those are estimates).
I really think that the conversion from ore to refined should be phased out and we should be able to grind for refined dilithium. Or..maybe make a doff mission where you can refine a bigger specific amount..say like 50,000..for a success..if you get a critical success..you can get an extra 50%(25,000) refined also. Just an idea. But from what I'm seeing and hearing..I know I'm not the only one that's going to be submitting ideas such as this one.

thank you for you time,

Unclereeky

wont happen, dilithium exchange would be screwed over in the process, ick

duvc2579x · October 2014

unclereeky wrote: »

Is there a way to do away with the "8,000 dilithium per day" limit. With the new upgrade system out and operational now..dilithium doesn't last as long..no where near as long. We have people spending all day on the Spire Ground Battle zone just to get the dilithium ore to be able to refine it..8,000 per day. Whether its done 8,000 ore at a time or it goes straight to refined dilithium..people are still going to grind for it..or even buy and sell zen for it..regardless..the amount of dilithium needed to play now is off the charts..especially if you want to upgrade the items your character(s) have. Just on my main character alone..I have spent over 600,000 dilithium in the past week just to upgrade my weapons, ship shields, engine, warp core and deflector..lets not forget my ground weapons, shields, armor and kits. That is what is has cost just on one character..so why would it hurt to have all the ore we grind to go directly to refined dilithium? This is one of the biggest grumblings I've heard..or seen in the chat since the upgrade system went into place. People can come up with the ec's..grinding is easy..ec's are ec's..no conversion there..but when you have to grind for dilithium..then only get 8,000 per day..that doesn't even cover upgrading a very rare item to ultra..if you use basic upgrades..that's 700 dilithium an upgrade..improved upgrades take 950/upgrade and superior take 1075 per upgrade..that doesn't even include the "finishing" upgrade amount of dilithium you need just to get the weapon out of the upgrade when finished..That can be anywhere from 1000 dilithium up to 3000 dilithium..(those are estimates).
I really think that the conversion from ore to refined should be phased out and we should be able to grind for refined dilithium. Or..maybe make a doff mission where you can refine a bigger specific amount..say like 50,000..for a success..if you get a critical success..you can get an extra 50%(25,000) refined also. Just an idea. But from what I'm seeing and hearing..I know I'm not the only one that's going to be submitting ideas such as this one.

thank you for you time,

Unclereeky

I Absolutely Back This Notion Fully

ashkrik23 · October 2014

You get rid of the cap, you can say goodbye to any chance of getting zen items for dil.

cosmos913967 · October 2014

The cap could be raised a little bit without hurting the exchange rates. It's not like there hasn't been dilithium inflation with the fleet projects and the r&d system. With 9,000 you'd be averaging an even 10000 per day after adding the 500 mine daily and 1,000 48 hr academy miner.

I don't think a doff mission is a good idea. Sometimes I skip a few days and having at least the 8000 auto refining means I'll have more refined dilithium when I come back.

grayfoxjames · October 2014

Agreed. Level cap is getting raised let's raise Dil refinement to 10,000 to 12,000 a day.

jaguarskx · October 2014

Unlimited refining?

I could see Cryptic doing away with the 500:1 exchange limit and let laissez faire take control. We will probably see something like 1,500:1 to 2,000:1 exchange rates.

While unlimited refining could be great to fill projects and stuff, exchange them for Zen would be rather ludicrous. For example, assume a T6 ship will cost 3,000 Zen, you are possibly looking at needing 4.5 million to 6 million refined dilithium to acquire that ship.

fatman592 · October 2014

Thread regarding raising the dilithium cap #4,934,503,121.

The answer has and for the foreseeable future will be, NO!

Now back to the dilithium mine with you!

guilli88 · October 2014

ashkrik23 wrote: »

You get rid of the cap, you can say goodbye to any chance of getting zen items for dil.

But the rest of the game would become less tedious. If people want zen, just bloody spend some $. The game is free, it's the least people can do.

a3001 · October 2014

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1238871

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1237031

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1233271

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=884891

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1232331

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1201731

please stop it...

ashkrik23 · October 2014

guilli88 wrote: »

But the rest of the game would become less tedious. If people want zen, just bloody spend some $. The game is free, it's the least people can do.

Some don't have the money to do that, so they trade in time for it.

unclereeky · October 2014

Would be easy to fix..just adjust the numbers..instead of 155 dilithium to buy 1 zen..they could change it to 300 dilithium to buy 1 zen..there are always ways to work it.

ashkrik23 · October 2014

unclereeky wrote: »

Would be easy to fix..just adjust the numbers..instead of 155 dilithium to buy 1 zen..they could change it to 300 dilithium to buy 1 zen..there are always ways to work it.

They will not do that. The exchange is entirely player-driven.

guilli88 · October 2014

The dil/zen price is player driven. Supply and demand dictate what the price is.

https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/microeconomics/supply-demand-equilibrium

[Deleted User] · October 2014

Instead of raising the refining limit, some rewards need to come refined, like the one time T5 rep rewards. Those should come refined so we can actually get the suggested gear.

Though I am just hoarding every scrap of everything I can get until a non upgrading system for getting Mk14 items is presented so the refining system for now doesn't hurt so bad.

mavfin · October 2014

Oh hell no. We already know what happens to a PW game if you get too much dil-type currency in it. Neverwinter has a zilion Astral Diamonds on their exchange for zen, and people don't want to give up zen for just 500 AD each, which is the limit. So, no, keep the limit as it is..

Of course, who held a gun to your head and said that you had to upgrade every piece of gear you own? Oh, no one did? So, sounds like that's on you. Stop whining, please!

imruined · October 2014

erickhawkke wrote: »

Instead of raising the refining limit, some rewards need to come refined, like the one time T5 rep rewards. Those should come refined so we can actually get the suggested gear.

If you don't already have 30k refined dilithium (or several pieces already) it's only gonna take a few days to refine... This too is unnecessary...

robdmc · October 2014

If they remove the refining cap the market would be screwed. If person goes to the dyson battle zone and converts all marks and implants to dilithium they can make 25000 ore in an hour just by dino tagging and instance hopping. If they play it for 8 hours that is 200,000 ore.

Inflation would be rampant and dilithium would be worthless. the upgrade system was never ment to be completed in a day. If this game were then there would be no time gates on things like crafting.

The whole point of the refining cap is because dil is a time currency. If you want more then 8000 a day then do it on other toons and use the dil exchange to funnel the resources to one character.

If you think the ec market is bad, dil will be worse.

simeion1 · October 2014

Here is a better idea. Allowing more dip a day will mess with the market. I do t care about that. What I do care about is the game staying a float. Giving people the chance convert all there dilithium at once would kill Cryptics income. One thing I would consider is running a double or triple refinement weekend. This would make some players happy, I think. The market would fluctuate for a week but would self correct.

nightken · October 2014

simeion1 wrote: »

Here is a better idea. Allowing more dip a day will mess with the market. I do t care about that. What I do care about is the game staying a float. Giving people the chance convert all there dilithium at once would kill Cryptics income. One thing I would consider is running a double or triple refinement weekend. This would make some players happy, I think. The market would fluctuate for a week but would self correct.

I would make this very, very rare. as in twice a year at most. otherwise it could add uo too much even then I'm not sure.

trek21 · October 2014

There is one way to make more Dilithium than the cap allows...

Convert it from Zen (either with money or alts). Say you had 500, at the rate of 150 Dil... the result? 75000 Refined Dil delivered to the character who used the Dil/Zen Exchange to do so.

And since there was no Ore-to-Refined conversion, you could get 8000 more that day in-game

lilchibiclari · October 2014

[QUOTE=jaguarskx;19725601
While unlimited refining could be great to fill projects and stuff, exchange them for Zen would be rather ludicrous. For example, assume a T6 ship will cost 3,000 Zen, you are possibly looking at needing 4.5 million to 6 million refined dilithium to acquire that ship.[/QUOTE]

Hmm, there's a thought. Fleet projects, which require hundreds of thousands of Dilithium for some of them, should be able to take unrefined Dilithium Ore directly--maybe have a Tier One Dilithium Mine project required as a prerequisite to unlock it? Players would still be limited to the 8k/day for personal use.

chrishellmax2363 · October 2014

lilchibiclari wrote: »

Hmm, there's a thought. Fleet projects, which require hundreds of thousands of Dilithium for some of them, should be able to take unrefined Dilithium Ore directly--maybe have a Tier One Dilithium Mine project required as a prerequisite to unlock it? Players would still be limited to the 8k/day for personal use.

this makes sense as far as everything else goes.

As for the dil/time thing. Get more toons. Problem solved. Trust me there is no way youwill complain when you have 5 toons that are 8000 each, funneled into one toon. Heck. This is just a whiny post. Dude shape up. whenever you think there is no way to do something, google/yahoo -stowiki it.

People have found ways to do almost everything inthis game.

crabbycabby · October 2014

lilchibiclari wrote: »

Hmm, there's a thought. Fleet projects, which require hundreds of thousands of Dilithium for some of them, should be able to take unrefined Dilithium Ore directly--maybe have a Tier One Dilithium Mine project required as a prerequisite to unlock it? Players would still be limited to the 8k/day for personal use.

I second this idea.

Maybe Dilithium Mine 1 allows 3 unrefined = 1 refined. Then Dilithium 2 allows 2:1 And finally Dilithium 3 would allow 1:1

If this came as a separate set of projects, just think of all the grind we could create! :eek:

bobbydazlers · October 2014

whats this ? , another daily can we have the dil cap raised thread.
its about time they set a filter to send these strait to the Frequently Created Threads (F.C.T) dustbin.

ridddickxxx · October 2014

unclereeky wrote: »

I really think that the conversion from ore to refined should be phased out and we should be able to grind for refined dilithium.

Makes you log in every day.

guilli88 · October 2014

ridddickxxx wrote: »

Makes you log in every day.

Yup, they want you to log in every day because that makes the game look active for investors. It's entirely done to please investors.

imruined · October 2014

ridddickxxx wrote: »

Makes you log in every day.

Only silver members... If I remember correctly, gold members get up to 7 days worth of dilithium refinement without logging in...

The real question, who can be bothered sitting there collecting over 40k of dilithium in a single sitting... I sure as hell can't...

carlosbfly · October 2014

Ah, this topic. Only the tenth new thread on same subject in less than two weeks....

knocky · October 2014

What part of the new unbelievable dilithium requirements to force you to buy Zen are you not comprehending?

imruined · October 2014

knocky wrote: »

What part of the new unbelievable dilithium requirements to force you to buy Zen are you not comprehending?

What part of unsubstantiated hyperbole do you not comprehend?

If you're stupidly impatient, and buy your way through the project times, then you deserve to have your dilithium extracted through the nose...

Grinding Dilithium ore straight to "refined"...please!!!

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