going by the last expansion, it will be the week leading up to release
Wasn't it at least two weeks for Legacy of Romulus? I remember testing Romulans for quite a while before release and was never gold.
EDIT: Oh wait, now I recall. I was able to get to Tribble among other players they deemed 'dedicated testers' as I've been on Tribble for the previous seasons' testing.
As now I still can't get to Tribble, I've either disappeared from that list or they just don't let anyone other than Gold to Tribble this time.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
i was still a noob back then, my memory is clouded by all the skittles :P
See previous edited post.
I guess this time they're limiting access to Tribble more than before.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
yeah, according to one of the previous streams tribble access is restricted until after delta rising is released. there will be no silver access to it before release.
Now clowns, that's another story. They scare the crap out of me.
We fight them too. Entire armies spilling out of Volkswagens.
We do our best to fight them off, but they keep sending them in.
mmm you know any new ship received on an existing character or any character that was copied over after the patch now has to have an upgrade token to upgrade ships kind of hard since c-store is disabled
Wasn't it at least two weeks for Legacy of Romulus? I remember testing Romulans for quite a while before release and was never gold.
EDIT: Oh wait, now I recall. I was able to get to Tribble among other players they deemed 'dedicated testers' as I've been on Tribble for the previous seasons' testing.
As now I still can't get to Tribble, I've either disappeared from that list or they just don't let anyone other than Gold to Tribble this time.
I was on Tribble for LoR testing, I always tend to get it muddled up with another season because one of the ones around that was similar in how they went about it. Thing is I tend to remember the bugs and such I reported and sent in improvement ideas for over what Season/Expansion they actually belonged to.
That being said at least when you tested stuff it was rewarding in the sense that you felt you were making the choice to help out with stuff. Now though it just feels like they are almost trying deliberately to not have people test because of how badly this expansion was initially and still is being perceived.
I am very cynical when it comes to these things, but logic does say you keep your best testers, and the dedicated tester approach is better than this, frankly.
On the patch notes I'll raise this point; reducing the time it takes to do an upgrade and reducing the cost of skipping the timer is a non-issue compared to the sheer costs of the upgrades themselves which is what has been said. Maybe a dev would care to respond to the upgrade feedback forum for this so we at least know what the position is right now?
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Why is the Ambassador not eligible for an upgrade when it is an account wide Z-Store unlock?
The Ambassador falls under the "free ships from a mission category" because that's how they were originally obtained. That's why they are not up-gradable.
The Ambassador falls under the "free ships from a mission category" because that's how they were originally obtained. That's why they are not up-gradable.
That is a huge disappointment! It's easily my favorite cruiser in the game. The Vesta would have been my favorite cruiser but PWE decided to make it a science ship instead. I hope PWE reconsiders allowing the Ambassador to be upgraded.
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thats if they pull their heads out their butts and listen to what us players want ...... i mean its only fair trade but if F2P players cant be usefull as a tester shouldnt we get something in return .... like actually having them hear our plee's for better things that WE would find useful or handy ?
Federation type 1 phaser Mk XIV [CritD][CrtH][Dm/CrH][Dot3]
Federation type 2 phaser Mk XI to
Federation type 2 phaser Mk XIV [CrtH][Dm/CrH][Dmg]x3
the Type 3 is still unable to be upgraded atm
PS the changes to the time and cost of upgrading are very nice.
The time in nice but the dilithium cost is still TRIBBLE. Why would you pay upwards of 10,000 dil or more just to upgrade to a mark higher, and the rarity that's not guaranteed to change. for a guaranteed item level AND rarity sure. not for this random TRIBBLE. and after the mk of the item is locked at XIV if you upgrade again it shows the next rarity higher as the next possible outcome yet if you fill it up and hit go 20k dil later IT CAN FAIL! words can not express the flaws with this system at the moment. Its a great concept, take away the dilithium cost of putting tp into an object and give one flat cost at the end to get it going, I can live with that. putting into an object at mk XIV I spent over 91k dil and haven't filled it up just yet.
Now I've heard from the patch notes there was R+D packs available on tribble. where to get such I still haven't found. I hope not the c-store version or did they forget they disabled that on tribble.
I think the dilithium cost is out of hand and this high cost attached to everything shows a lack of respect to the player base. Unless I am missing something drastic this is just how I see things. Please I beg of you to get rid of the dilithium attached to putting in tech points. It needs to happen either that or the cost needs to be reduced to 1/10 of what it is now.
I dont care about the time it takes, and I dont care about how much dilithium the finish now costs. I care about the meat, the dilithium input per tech upgrade!
thats if they pull their heads out their butts and listen to what us players want ...... i mean its only fair trade but if F2P players cant be usefull as a tester shouldnt we get something in return .... like actually having them hear our plee's for better things that WE would find useful or handy ?
No. quite frankly because they continue to show the community they don't care what they think. If there isn't a potential profit in it for them they ignore it.
How to get a ship upgrade coin? I tried copying a new toon to tribble but I don't get the free one.
Let me guess. We only get one free one...so now we can't test the next batch of ships that just came out. Am I correct?? Please for the love of Cthulhu say no.
thats if they pull their heads out their butts and listen to what us players want ...... i mean its only fair trade but if F2P players cant be usefull as a tester shouldnt we get something in return .... like actually having them hear our plee's for better things that WE would find useful or handy ?
How about they give you the ability to play for free in return?
That is a huge disappointment! It's easily my favorite cruiser in the game. The Vesta would have been my favorite cruiser but PWE decided to make it a science ship instead. I hope PWE reconsiders allowing the Ambassador to be upgraded.
How to get a ship upgrade coin? I tried copying a new toon to tribble but I don't get the free one.
Let me guess. We only get one free one...so now we can't test the next batch of ships that just came out. Am I correct?? Please for the love of Cthulhu say no.
What coin? Ship upgrades can be freely accessed on tribble. Just hit the button (lower left) when at the ship selector.
And no, no "testing" of new ships (ie. T6) as per usual.
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What coin? Ship upgrades can be freely accessed on tribble. Just hit the button (lower left) when at the ship selector.
OK so tell me how many T5U ships YOU have??
I can only get one. And there was a popup when I first went to Tribble that gave me that coin. I used it on a ship that was most like my ship. now my ship is ready and i can't test it because i only got one coin and the ceezen store is not operable on tribble.
What coin? Ship upgrades can be freely accessed on tribble. Just hit the button (lower left) when at the ship selector.
That doesn't work for me. The upgrade window that pops up is completely blank on the characters I have copied post September 23rd patch.
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I can only get one. And there was a popup when I first went to Tribble that gave me that coin. I used it on a ship that was most like my ship. now my ship is ready and i can't test it because i only got one coin and the ceezen store is not operable on tribble.
Lets see, about 9 on my main (Mobius, Sovereign, Two Fleet Patrol Escort Retrofits, Star Cruiser, DSD, Orb Weaver, Defiant, and Excelsior). Just go to the ship selector and hit the button. There's no other conditions (on tribble) at least when I last logged on.
Updated all Dilithium and Fleet stores to allow special item purchases that check T5 ship ownership in order to unlock purchases to also allow ownership of T5-U versions.
This may have changed the process [by simply requiring the T5-U upgrade item] but TBH its rather impenetrably worded and I can't be bothered to check ATM. If the upgrade button DOESN'T offer an immediate and free T5-U unlock check the dilithium store (as referenced).
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I'm a fan of potato jokes but I have absolutely no idea what you mean by that (besides being snide on a feedback forum.)
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That doesn't work for me. The upgrade window that pops up is completely blank on the characters I have copied post September 23rd patch.
I bothered to check what's going on. Yup they've implemented T5-U upgrades as they will be on Oct 14th (phase 2 you could say of T5-U testing). The window that opens is blank because of course there is no c-store to buy the upgade token from. However in the case of free upgrades (ex. Risan Liner) the upgrade process still works. There isn't anything wrong with the system, you're just running into a complication of tribble.
If you didn't pick up your upgrade then I'm afraid it seems you're out of luck. They could add something to the special items section of the dilithium store (which seems to have been referenced in the relevant release note) or the Drozana testing console but I doubt its a testing priority ATM. (would be nice but if we don't get more upgrade tokens, meh. I think they're satisfied with T5-U builds and the mechanics of the system seem to be in order.)
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Which I can't get because the Ambassador I am enjoying is on my Romulan. :rolleyes:
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Which I can't get because the Ambassador I am enjoying is on my Romulan. :rolleyes:
....should we really be worrying about upgrading glitches?
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Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but the 'Defeat Leader' section of Holes and Corners (The Dragon's Deceit) isn't continuing i.e. the leader isn't showing his darned ugly face..I only want to give him the business end of my compression rifle! :P
Can we get the Basic/Rare/Superior tech upgrades added to the Drozana tester console to get a better handle on tech rarity vs dilith cost.
Personally think that Dilith cost per Tech upgrade should be half current cost but still testing leveling schools to 15 to get superior takes some clicking. :P
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or are us F2P players no good to cryptic ....
going by the last expansion, it will be the week leading up to release
Wasn't it at least two weeks for Legacy of Romulus? I remember testing Romulans for quite a while before release and was never gold.
EDIT: Oh wait, now I recall. I was able to get to Tribble among other players they deemed 'dedicated testers' as I've been on Tribble for the previous seasons' testing.
As now I still can't get to Tribble, I've either disappeared from that list or they just don't let anyone other than Gold to Tribble this time.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
i was still a noob back then, my memory is clouded by all the skittles :P
See previous edited post.
I guess this time they're limiting access to Tribble more than before.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
We fight them too. Entire armies spilling out of Volkswagens.
We do our best to fight them off, but they keep sending them in.
I was on Tribble for LoR testing, I always tend to get it muddled up with another season because one of the ones around that was similar in how they went about it. Thing is I tend to remember the bugs and such I reported and sent in improvement ideas for over what Season/Expansion they actually belonged to.
That being said at least when you tested stuff it was rewarding in the sense that you felt you were making the choice to help out with stuff. Now though it just feels like they are almost trying deliberately to not have people test because of how badly this expansion was initially and still is being perceived.
I am very cynical when it comes to these things, but logic does say you keep your best testers, and the dedicated tester approach is better than this, frankly.
On the patch notes I'll raise this point; reducing the time it takes to do an upgrade and reducing the cost of skipping the timer is a non-issue compared to the sheer costs of the upgrades themselves which is what has been said. Maybe a dev would care to respond to the upgrade feedback forum for this so we at least know what the position is right now?
The Ambassador falls under the "free ships from a mission category" because that's how they were originally obtained. That's why they are not up-gradable.
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I was able to upgrade the.....
Federation type 1 phaser to
Federation type 1 phaser Mk XIV [CritD][CrtH][Dm/CrH][Dot3]
Federation type 2 phaser Mk XI to
Federation type 2 phaser Mk XIV [CrtH][Dm/CrH][Dmg]x3
the Type 3 is still unable to be upgraded atm
PS the changes to the time and cost of upgrading are very nice.
That is a huge disappointment! It's easily my favorite cruiser in the game. The Vesta would have been my favorite cruiser but PWE decided to make it a science ship instead. I hope PWE reconsiders allowing the Ambassador to be upgraded.
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The time in nice but the dilithium cost is still TRIBBLE. Why would you pay upwards of 10,000 dil or more just to upgrade to a mark higher, and the rarity that's not guaranteed to change. for a guaranteed item level AND rarity sure. not for this random TRIBBLE. and after the mk of the item is locked at XIV if you upgrade again it shows the next rarity higher as the next possible outcome yet if you fill it up and hit go 20k dil later IT CAN FAIL! words can not express the flaws with this system at the moment. Its a great concept, take away the dilithium cost of putting tp into an object and give one flat cost at the end to get it going, I can live with that. putting into an object at mk XIV I spent over 91k dil and haven't filled it up just yet.
Now I've heard from the patch notes there was R+D packs available on tribble. where to get such I still haven't found. I hope not the c-store version or did they forget they disabled that on tribble.
I think the dilithium cost is out of hand and this high cost attached to everything shows a lack of respect to the player base. Unless I am missing something drastic this is just how I see things. Please I beg of you to get rid of the dilithium attached to putting in tech points. It needs to happen either that or the cost needs to be reduced to 1/10 of what it is now.
I dont care about the time it takes, and I dont care about how much dilithium the finish now costs. I care about the meat, the dilithium input per tech upgrade!
No. quite frankly because they continue to show the community they don't care what they think. If there isn't a potential profit in it for them they ignore it.
Let me guess. We only get one free one...so now we can't test the next batch of ships that just came out. Am I correct?? Please for the love of Cthulhu say no.
How about they give you the ability to play for free in return?
It can, you just need the fleet version. :P
What coin? Ship upgrades can be freely accessed on tribble. Just hit the button (lower left) when at the ship selector.
And no, no "testing" of new ships (ie. T6) as per usual.
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OK so tell me how many T5U ships YOU have??
I can only get one. And there was a popup when I first went to Tribble that gave me that coin. I used it on a ship that was most like my ship. now my ship is ready and i can't test it because i only got one coin and the ceezen store is not operable on tribble.
That doesn't work for me. The upgrade window that pops up is completely blank on the characters I have copied post September 23rd patch.
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Lets see, about 9 on my main (Mobius, Sovereign, Two Fleet Patrol Escort Retrofits, Star Cruiser, DSD, Orb Weaver, Defiant, and Excelsior). Just go to the ship selector and hit the button. There's no other conditions (on tribble) at least when I last logged on.
This may have changed the process [by simply requiring the T5-U upgrade item] but TBH its rather impenetrably worded and I can't be bothered to check ATM. If the upgrade button DOESN'T offer an immediate and free T5-U unlock check the dilithium store (as referenced).
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You're correct Cookie. I think Idaho has been picking too many potatoes and they're growing out of his ears.
I'm a fan of potato jokes but I have absolutely no idea what you mean by that (besides being snide on a feedback forum.)
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I bothered to check what's going on. Yup they've implemented T5-U upgrades as they will be on Oct 14th (phase 2 you could say of T5-U testing). The window that opens is blank because of course there is no c-store to buy the upgade token from. However in the case of free upgrades (ex. Risan Liner) the upgrade process still works. There isn't anything wrong with the system, you're just running into a complication of tribble.
If you didn't pick up your upgrade then I'm afraid it seems you're out of luck. They could add something to the special items section of the dilithium store (which seems to have been referenced in the relevant release note) or the Drozana testing console but I doubt its a testing priority ATM. (would be nice but if we don't get more upgrade tokens, meh. I think they're satisfied with T5-U builds and the mechanics of the system seem to be in order.)
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Which I can't get because the Ambassador I am enjoying is on my Romulan. :rolleyes:
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....should we really be worrying about upgrading glitches?
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Personally think that Dilith cost per Tech upgrade should be half current cost but still testing leveling schools to 15 to get superior takes some clicking. :P