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Idran Swarmers

boogieman624boogieman624 Member Posts: 73 Arc User
edited September 2014 in Ten Forward
Did Anyone else notice the Idran Swarmers Look An Awful Lot Like The Swarmers Seen In The Dyson Sphere?
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
    edited September 2014
    Yea... now that you mention it... they do...
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    jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    boogieman624 wrote: »
    Did Anyone else notice the Idran Swarmers Look An Awful Lot Like The Swarmers Seen In The Dyson Sphere?
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Yea... now that you mention it... they do...

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    kain9primekain9prime Member Posts: 739 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Considering how often ships and alien make-up were retooled and/or reused in pretty much every Star Trek series...I guess you could say it's canon to do such a thing?
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    kitsunesnoutkitsunesnout Member Posts: 1,210 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    If memory serves either in the description of the Obelisk carrier or the Obelisk swarmers hangar item, it mentions there may be a connection to Idran swarmers. So it's even acknowledged intentionally and officially that there may be a connection and not just a copy-paste.
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    leighandrew12leighandrew12 Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Well in 'Sphere of Influence' it was mentioned in the giant 'map' room that the Iconians were interested in both the delta and gamma quadrants. Use your imagination, maybe they were scouts or probes or maybe part of some ancient but non functioning outpost?
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    captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    this was intentional and has been confirmed they are meant to be the same.
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    grylakgrylak Member Posts: 1,594 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Can someone remind what these Idran swarmers are?
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    anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    captainrevo1 wrote: »
    this was intentional and has been confirmed they are meant to be the same.

    I am gonna use that excuse next time I am too lazy to do anything but a copy-paste job... I am sure my boss will buy it.
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    captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    I am gonna use that excuse next time I am too lazy to do anything but a copy-paste job... I am sure my boss will buy it.

    the swarmers were introduced proper around the time of season 8. they introduced a dyson sphere with two zones, a fe with worf, a later one with tuvok, a battlezone, a new enemy group in the voth, voth cut scenes etc.

    but they were too lazy to make one new drone?
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    dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    From the looks of things, the Idran swarmers are a mining variant of the Solanae swarmers. The combat logs only further that suspicion, as they say the swarmers are damaging you with "Mining Beam".

    Think about it this way - the Jenolan and Solanae Dyson spheres are both built by Iconian servitor races, but they're not built according to the same specifications (external, definitely, and possibly internal) - they just use a lot of the same principles, and may or may not have different purposes.

    Similarly, the Idran and Solanae swarmers are both unmanned drones presumably based on Iconian designs, but they fill two different roles and may or may not have been built by two different races (both of which are Iconians or their slaves).

    Edit: Okay, apparently it's Mining Laser, not Mining Beam. Just looked it up on STOWiki.
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    kitsunesnoutkitsunesnout Member Posts: 1,210 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    dalolorn wrote: »
    From the looks of things, the Idran swarmers are a mining variant of the Solanae swarmers. The combat logs only further that suspicion, as they say the swarmers are damaging you with "Mining Beam".

    Think about it this way - the Jenolan and Solanae Dyson spheres are both built by Iconian servitor races, but they're not built according to the same specifications (external, definitely, and possibly internal) - they just use a lot of the same principles, and may or may not have different purposes.

    Similarly, the Idran and Solanae swarmers are both unmanned drones presumably based on Iconian designs, but they fill two different roles and may or may not have been built by two different races (both of which are Iconians or their slaves).

    Edit: Okay, apparently it's Mining Laser, not Mining Beam. Just looked it up on STOWiki.

    Interesting point, then that means,, those swarmers in the Gamma Quadrant could be building another sphere nearby? They could even be coming and going into a secret gateway nearby to haul materials to a star for construction, though in that case another sphere (Ether partially built or fully) may or may not be in the Gamma quadrant, we may not have seen the last of the spheres!
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    starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    grylak wrote: »
    Can someone remind what these Idran swarmers are?

    The things that dickhead Ferengi sics on you when you go into the Gamma Quadrant in "Operation Gamma".
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    leighandrew12leighandrew12 Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Ah yes the Ferangi... I had him killed on my first playthrough. Not very Starfleet, but I wasn't in the mood for pests that day
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    dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    leighandrew12 wrote: »
    Ah yes the Ferangi... I had him killed on my first playthrough. Not very Starfleet, but I wasn't in the mood for pests that day

    Farek's a she. :P
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    anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    captainrevo1 wrote: »
    the swarmers were introduced proper around the time of season 8. they introduced a dyson sphere with two zones, a fe with worf, a later one with tuvok, a battlezone, a new enemy group in the voth, voth cut scenes etc.

    but they were too lazy to make one new drone?

    Sums it up quite nicely.
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    leighandrew12leighandrew12 Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    dalolorn wrote: »
    Farek's a she. :P

    I remember now. All i could remember was scattering Ferangi bits all over space :)
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    grandnaguszek1grandnaguszek1 Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    leighandrew12 wrote: »
    I remember now. All i could remember was scattering Ferangi bits all over space :)

    And what's ironic is that I killed Farek when I was useing my Ferengi. But after all "a deal is a deal...until a better one comes along", and one did:P.
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    hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,758 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    i read this thread title as indian shawarma
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    jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    grylak wrote: »
    Can someone remind what these Idran swarmers are?

    They're the things I fight when I want to get 10 lockboxes in a very short amount of time. :P
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