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Exchange Conundrum

astral#0893 astral
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edited September 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Can the powers that be please explain why the exchange isn't policed?
Our credit allowance is caped at 10,000,000 & yet some people post items for sale above that price. Obviously they will never sell an item at such a price, so are they really that stupid?
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  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    No, they are smart. They bought the 10 mil cap removal and sell things way more expensive thet 10 mil.

    Be smart, buy your 10 mil cap removal now!
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    fediii wrote: »
    Can the powers that be please explain why the exchange isn't policed?
    Our credit allowance is caped at 10,000,000 & yet some people post items for sale above that price. Obviously they will never sell an item at such a price, so are they really that stupid?

    then buy the ec cap limit to 1bln from the z store, the wiki says its 500z, only a few days dil grind. at that point you can go after anything you want. exchange like the dil exchange is player ran.
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  • binebanebinebane Member Posts: 557 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    fediii wrote: »
    Can the powers that be please explain why the exchange isn't policed?
    Our credit allowance is caped at 10,000,000 & yet some people post items for sale above that price. Obviously they will never sell an item at such a price, so are they really that stupid?
    go gold and you can have 1 000 000 000 ec.
  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    the day the exchange starts getting 'policed' is the day i stop opening boxes and putting things on the exchange for people to buy.
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  • thegcbaconthegcbacon Member Posts: 434 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    fediii wrote: »
    Can the powers that be please explain why the exchange isn't policed?
    Our credit allowance is caped at 10,000,000 & yet some people post items for sale above that price. Obviously they will never sell an item at such a price, so are they really that stupid?

    Instead of calling sellers stupid, you should ask "How can I buy something for over 10M EC?" Or are you asking for Cryptic to stop ppl who have bought the EC cap increase to not be allowed to sell items to others that have bought the EC cap increase? You might as well ask Cryptic to disallow Cstore ships from being used in game.
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited September 2014
    The OP needs to farm 183,000 (as of today) dil and pop that EC cap off.
  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    lucho80 wrote: »
    The OP needs to farm 183,000 (as of today) dil and pop that EC cap off.
    I long for the day when the Cap was worth 44.000 dil :D.
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    fediii wrote: »
    Can the powers that be please explain why the exchange isn't policed?
    Our credit allowance is caped at 10,000,000 & yet some people post items for sale above that price. Obviously they will never sell an item at such a price, so are they really that stupid?

    Guessing you're a relatively new player.

    That cap on your ec is an ftp thing.

    You can, for 500 zen, increase it dramatically

    Lts and subscribers get it for free.

    Buying the cap increase, and the account bank, are usually considered the most important qol purchases you can buy.
  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    fediii wrote: »
    Can the powers that be please explain why the exchange isn't policed?
    Our credit allowance is caped at 10,000,000 & yet some people post items for sale above that price. Obviously they will never sell an item at such a price, so are they really that stupid?

    Why would they police that? You can buy an ec cap increase to raise your cap. As such,some people will pay that much for certain items, because they are not constrainted by the 10milll ec cap.
  • eightseven87eightseven87 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I cannot start a discussion myself so I am hoping that one of you who read this could do it if you agree with my idea. It would be nice to have some set prices for items and my reason is this...

    If I have an item worth one million and I post it for one million it usually doesn't take long before others post that same item a bit cheaper to sell it faster. Before you know the item is down to five hundred thousand. So if you're someone like me who doesn't want to bring the market down then lets try and do something about it. Maybe some kind of policing so that we don't devallue items and we can get paid for what it's worth

    Thank you for your time
  • mightybobcncmightybobcnc Member Posts: 3,354 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Eh, nope. Free market. If you don't like the prices that other sellers are posting items for, then don't engage in a price war with them. If that means your item has to sit on the exchange for two weeks before the natural rise and fall cycle on the price goes through so it'll sell at your price instead of cheaper then that's the cost of doing business.
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  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    eightseven87 wrote: »
    I cannot start a discussion myself so I am hoping that one of you who read this could do it if you agree with my idea. It would be nice to have some set prices for items and my reason is this...

    If I have an item worth one million and I post it for one million it usually doesn't take long before others post that same item a bit cheaper to sell it faster. Before you know the item is down to five hundred thousand. So if you're someone like me who doesn't want to bring the market down then lets try and do something about it. Maybe some kind of policing so that we don't devallue items and we can get paid for what it's worth

    Thank you for your time

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  • dpsloss88dpsloss88 Member Posts: 765 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    It is incredibly stupid and arrogant to think all these sellers are selling items that cannot possibly sell. LOL. Any intelligent person would ask themselves how other people are buying things.
  • corelogikcorelogik Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    You know, I don't normally rag on newbies, but this one,... um,... I might just have to change that policy.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,471 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    "What it's worth"?

    Valet quantum vendi potest - "it is worth as much as it can be sold for." An ancient Roman proverb, and one that echoes through the centuries; the oldest quote of that in English I've found so far dates to 1569.

    If it's "worth" 1 million EC, someone will buy it for that much. If it sells for less, then by free-market principles, it obviously isn't worth 1 million EC.
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    fediii wrote: »
    Can the powers that be please explain why the exchange isn't policed?
    Our credit allowance is caped at 10,000,000 & yet some people post items for sale above that price. Obviously they will never sell an item at such a price, so are they really that stupid?

    It shouldn't be policed. Its a free market. As long there is buyers willing to pay for that price. It will be sold as such. However if no takers, eventually it will come down. Or you get enough to start cutting each other and drives it down that way. Via flooding the market with it.

    No they are not stupid. Far from it, as they are making serious EC from the ones who is willing to spend it. If I could on some items, I would be doing it too.

    I take it your new to the game. There is a zen store purchase to increase your EC cap. I hadn't done mine yet, as I hadn't reached the cap yet. After they fixed the EC on vendor items, I doubt I will hit it for a very long time yet.
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  • eightseven87eightseven87 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    do you feel like a bigger man calling someone stupid?
  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I think I lost brain cells reading this
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,471 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    eightseven87 wrote: »
    do you feel like a bigger man calling someone stupid?
    No, just a smarter one.
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    No, just a smarter one.

    I don't call them stupid... I just look at them and demonstrate that my brain cells were lost trying to understand their idiocy. That just happened in another thread... when someone told a deaf guy to get better headphones
  • hpgibbshpgibbs Member Posts: 395 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    fediii wrote: »
    Can the powers that be please explain why the exchange isn't policed?
    Our credit allowance is caped at 10,000,000 & yet some people post items for sale above that price. Obviously they will never sell an item at such a price, so are they really that stupid?

    Oh the innocence of this post.....
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  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Hey guys,

    I'm looking on the exchange right now and i'm trying to buy this item called "Common Sense" but it costs 10,000,001 EC but i only have 10,000,000 EC and i cant go any higher so it wont let me buy the item. Can somebody help me out with this conundrum?
  • eightseven87eightseven87 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    No, just a smarter one.
    wow. Your signature or what ever you call it suggests you're "old" so one would think that with age comes wisdom. To actually point out you're smarter then an other.... I certainly will not insult you for what you said. At your age you should be able to figure out your mistake
  • equinox976equinox976 Member Posts: 2,305 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I feel a bit sorry for the guy. He did not realise you can upgrade your currency limit.

    But I do wonder why he did not stop and think how something could be posted on the exchange that cost's more than the upper limit.

    Either way, I hope he will put it down to a learning experience :)

    No need to call anyone stupid from either side.
  • hpgibbshpgibbs Member Posts: 395 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I'm surprised that no one had mentioned that the OP's username is "stonewbie' which lends to suggest that he wouldn't know those finer points. I don't believe the harshness was warranted in this post.
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  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    hpgibbs wrote: »
    I'm surprised that no one had mentioned that the OP's username is "stonewbie' which lends to suggest that he wouldn't know those finer points. I don't believe the harshness was warranted in this post.

    Stonewbie isn't the op though.:rolleyes:
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  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    eightseven87 wrote: »
    I cannot start a discussion myself so I am hoping that one of you who read this could do it if you agree with my idea. It would be nice to have some set prices for items and my reason is this...

    If I have an item worth one million and I post it for one million it usually doesn't take long before others post that same item a bit cheaper to sell it faster. Before you know the item is down to five hundred thousand. So if you're someone like me who doesn't want to bring the market down then lets try and do something about it. Maybe some kind of policing so that we don't devallue items and we can get paid for what it's worth

    Thank you for your time


    do what I do. By the lower cost items then resell them for the higher price. That's the only kind of policing on the exchange. you have to do it yourself.
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Well, OP, if I can't sell items over 10 mill, I guess I should refund the two people who bought omni-beams from me today.
  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    but..........but.........but........nevermind. We ALWAYS get a thread like this every month.

    My hat is off to those who explained the free market. I cannot put forth a response,

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