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Pants!

crypticjoejingcrypticjoejing Member Posts: 211 Cryptic Developer
edited September 2014 in Tribble - General Discussion and Feedback
...so much pants. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-UAImTSfww :P

Sorry, couldn't resist the link above for fun.

Anyway, pants in STO - specifically, female pants...

Pretty much all of the female pants looked janky before – the shape was unnatural and the poly edges really showed.

Did a little tweaking pass on all "loose" and split cuff pants for subtle but widespread improvement. Example here:

http://imgur.com/jkFsW1y
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    ashrod63ashrod63 Member Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Definitely looks better, now about the underwear...
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    drreverenddrreverend Member Posts: 459 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Could you also do something with female arms on the Odyssey uniform being kind of noodley and thin, especially with how the elbows seem to bend at freakish angles and be alarmingly narrow?
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    castsbugccastsbugc Member Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    great now the devs are pantz'ing us.....

    great job it looks much more natural :)
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    crypticjoejingcrypticjoejing Member Posts: 211 Cryptic Developer
    edited September 2014
    drreverend wrote: »
    Could you also do something with female arms on the Odyssey uniform being kind of noodley and thin, especially with how the elbows seem to bend at freakish angles and be alarmingly narrow?

    Yeah, there are quite a few areas of funkiness in the female jackets, not just the Odyssey. On the radar, but probably not too soon. There are a lot more variations of jackets, more equipment that has to fit over and/or under it, and it's simply not as easy as the pants - many more bones in the skeleton influence jackets.
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    jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    *waits for flood of posters ranting about how they want their toons' legs to look like that, and can't the new pants be added as additional options?*;)
    You're right. The work here is very important.
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    orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    ...no more wedgies then? =O
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    crypticjoejingcrypticjoejing Member Posts: 211 Cryptic Developer
    edited September 2014
    jeffel82 wrote: »
    *waits for flood of posters ranting about how they want their toons' legs to look like that, and can't the new pants be added as additional options?*;)

    HAHAHA! true dat.

    Good call and preemptive "no". The amount of asset management, set-up, and ui to double everything up isn't reasonable.
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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    ... who wears pants anymore?

    Bring on the "SKANTS" !

    <chuckle>
    (you knew somebody was gonna say it)

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    bberge1701bberge1701 Member Posts: 726 Bug Hunter
    edited September 2014
    daveyny wrote: »
    ... who wears pants anymore?

    Bring on the "SKANTS" !

    <chuckle>
    (you knew somebody was gonna say it)

    :cool:

    That's not a skant, it's a dress uniform (no pun intended).
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    jodarkriderjodarkrider Member Posts: 2,097 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Looks nicer... although I'd love the Odyssey belt on long jakcet for females to have a higher sitting variant... :( As it's now, it sits too low for odyssey long jackets for females. Think it'd be possible to add another variant for the odyssey belt, which would sit higher, similar to where it sit for males?
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    cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Nice changes on the pants! Congrats!

    And to my the ody belt is perfect on females, but if a new position can be added, is also welcome.
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    lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Aww yeah. I've been rocking the Oddy vet uni on my female tac lately. This will work very nicely for her.

    Also +1 for using the word "janky". I love that word but no one uses it anymore. :(
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    drreverenddrreverend Member Posts: 459 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    crypticjoejing wrote: »
    Yeah, there are quite a few areas of funkiness in the female jackets, not just the Odyssey. On the radar, but probably not too soon. There are a lot more variations of jackets, more equipment that has to fit over and/or under it, and it's simply not as easy as the pants - many more bones in the skeleton influence jackets.

    Unfortunate, but understood. Still, here's hoping you guys get to it. The newer coats like Dyson Sphere and the Odyssey and others have just the freakiest arms. What made it weirder was when I compensated some by thickening my character's arms in the Oddy jacket, then when the summer event bikinis came out she suddenly had shoulders and biceps like a weight lifter.
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    robdmcrobdmc Member Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    If there are really that many uniforms then why not just issue standing orders to all female characters to take there uniforms to the dry cleaners. They will come back wrinkle free.

    I would advise against adding an iron item in the inventory of female characters as some may become enraged and chuck them at some one before they use them. If they get close to you, those non-ironed uniforms have some pretty sharp polygons and can be quite lethal.
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    jodarkriderjodarkrider Member Posts: 2,097 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Here is what I mean... I'd love if we had a variant for females, which sits at similar height as the male version. Clearly, the jupiter version sits at imo nicer position. So pretty please, the belt model is already in game, so adding one, which sits at similar position as the Jupiter for females can't be as hard? For female long jackets?

    http://i.imgur.com/7SpVJAm.jpg
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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    bberge1701 wrote: »
    That's not a skant, it's a dress uniform (no pun intended).

    Take away the leggings, what have you got?

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    redshirtthefirstredshirtthefirst Member Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Honey! Where are my pants?
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    captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    That looks a lot better.
    Btw, will the ankle height "panels & pockets" trousers be making a return for female characters?
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    mightybobcncmightybobcnc Member Posts: 3,354 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Yay my pants!
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    daboholicdaboholic Member Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    The new version looks much better, thank you.
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    tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited September 2014
    I have misplaced my pants.
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    johnstewardjohnsteward Member Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Some female coats are really making my chars have a huge TRIBBLE^^ examples are i think the kdf time uniform korath chest peace and some on fed side also like i think the admiral coat. Could you pls habe this checked out/changed? Maybe its to avoid clipping into other stuff but really a lot of uniforms dont have that problem so it feels fixable.
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    gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Thanks for cleaning these up!

    Gotta say I'm almost as excited for the new costume and character customization as the content with dr. Very much appreciate the work.
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    mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    ive always had an issue with the female legs, i hope this also works for bare skin as well, the inner thighs look unnatural as do the lower legs to the size of the thighs, its esepecially apparent on skirts and tight pants.

    on another issue with pants devs, will klingons get other options of pants or remain stuck with tight fitting "unable to breathe" pants? :P its no wonder a klingon male gets cranky and looking to cause trouble.
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    adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    mirrorchaos wrote: »
    ive always had an issue with the female legs, i hope this also works for bare skin as well, the inner thighs look unnatural as do the lower legs to the size of the thighs, its esepecially apparent on skirts and tight pants.

    Finally! Someone else mentions it!

    Also, you really need to change the title to read "trousers" some of us speak English.
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    edited September 2014
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    captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    ...Obama? :confused:

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    breadandcircusesbreadandcircuses Member Posts: 2,355 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    johnsteward wrote: »
    Some female coats are really making my chars have a huge TRIBBLE^^ examples are i think the kdf time uniform korath chest peace and some on fed side also like i think the admiral coat. Could you pls habe this checked out/changed? Maybe its to avoid clipping into other stuff but really a lot of uniforms dont have that problem so it feels fixable.

    [EDIT] Never mind, I should probably not comment on this :P
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    johnstewardjohnsteward Member Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    breadandcircuses wrote: »
    [EDIT] Never mind, I should probably not comment on this :P

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