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Devs, could you try to balance PVP.

hyefatherhyefather Member Posts: 1,286 Arc User
edited August 2014 in PvP Gameplay
I'm not asking for much. Just make it so when people leave the PVP match they are punished. A 30 minute lockout or something. 2 crusiers against 4 bugs, 2 xindi escorts, 1 avenger and 2 Science ships. BROKEN!!! WE will NEVER get new pvp players if that kind of shenanigans keeps up. Hell, even veterians wont put up with that. Please, just look into it?
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  • mindsharpmindsharp Member Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    These threads never end well. :(
    Karrock/Karreck/Darth Karrock/Unspoken
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  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Stick to single/duo queues...you will be out into many fair fights
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

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  • snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    They can start by bringing back gorn of the dead.

    That would make this game better.
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  • mindsharpmindsharp Member Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    snoge00f wrote: »
    They can start by bringing back gorn of the dead.

    That would make this game better.

    Truth !!! :)
    Karrock/Karreck/Darth Karrock/Unspoken
    House of Beautiful Orions
    PUNISH THE FEDs
  • jacknm1jacknm1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    snoge00f wrote: »
    They can start by bringing back gorn of the dead.

    That would make this game better.

    Also couldnt agree more

    Iasked the devs about PvP at the Vegas Convention, the answer we got was, "We'll get there, we are revamping all our old systems", same old same old. Not an answer, its an avoidance.

    And devs dont read these forums.....im not sure they are aware pvp exists
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  • thorexxxxthorexxxx Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited August 2014
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Devs can't balance players...STO's the way it is from trying that route.
  • dius1981dius1981 Member Posts: 500
    edited August 2014
    thorexxxx wrote: »
    Devs dont exist....;)

    I agree, forums seem to be run by inconsistent Moderators now days...:D

    D,
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  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    PvP is an illusion of Matrix.
  • dius1981dius1981 Member Posts: 500
    edited August 2014
    PvP is an illusion of Matrix.

    There is no spoon...
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    Please keep the QQ to a minimum.
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  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Balancing doesn't do any good when PvP is buried under five miles of lockbox/rep/fleet/etc garbage.
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,481 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    hyefather wrote: »
    I'm not asking for much. Just make it so when people leave the PVP match they are punished. A 30 minute lockout or something. 2 crusiers against 4 bugs, 2 xindi escorts, 1 avenger and 2 Science ships. BROKEN!!! WE will NEVER get new pvp players if that kind of shenanigans keeps up. Hell, even veterians wont put up with that. Please, just look into it?

    Wrong.

    Only way to bring balance to PVP is by disallowing the use of owned ships/consoles.

    Queue for PVP and get assigned a random cruiser/science/escort/warbird.
    With that setup you eliminate the min-max situation which drive new PVP players away and silence the constant moaning about OP consoles.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Before balancing PvP, someone should tell some people what Tac Team is. Today in Ker'rat a handful of klinks teamed up and advanced through spawn. At first they had the advantage, but got brutally murdered minutes later by a Fed fleet that was ripping trhough their shields. Mainly because I couldn't see anyone using Tac Team, except for a couple of ones that were habitues in Ker'rat. Others were like moving targets, just a passage with cannons with a BO could nuke a Bort.

    Sadly, no one teaches these mechanics.
  • jpf2012jpf2012 Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    jacknm1 wrote: »
    Also couldnt agree more

    Iasked the devs about PvP at the Vegas Convention, the answer we got was, "We'll get there, we are revamping all our old systems", same old same old. Not an answer, its an avoidance.

    And devs dont read these forums.....im not sure they are aware pvp exists

    29/8/14 punish the feds , return of the gorn foundation all donations are welcome :)

    mindsharp how many goats did you have to slaughter :))))))))))))))))))))

    ps evul sal lol im coming for ya
  • jpf2012jpf2012 Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    :))) been a while lol im sure the feds are still getting punished

    mindsharp parker snog see ya soon
  • thisslerthissler Member Posts: 2,055 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Before balancing PvP, someone should tell some people what Tac Team is. Today in Ker'rat a handful of klinks teamed up and advanced through spawn. At first they had the advantage, but got brutally murdered minutes later by a Fed fleet that was ripping trhough their shields. Mainly because I couldn't see anyone using Tac Team, except for a couple of ones that were habitues in Ker'rat. Others were like moving targets, just a passage with cannons with a BO could nuke a Bort.

    Sadly, no one teaches these mechanics.

    So sad, but so true.

    Tactical Team

    More Tactical Team
    That ones REALLY old. But I like it cause Evy is in it.

    Eh, that's enough. Must be about a gazillion references to Tactical Team on that channel.

    But yes, by all means, someone inform them.
  • giotarizgiotariz Member Posts: 652 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    dius1981 wrote: »
    I agree, forums seem to be run by inconsistent Moderators now days...:D

    D,

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  • dius1981dius1981 Member Posts: 500
    edited August 2014
    giotariz wrote: »
    DAT SIGNATURE


    SIR YOU WIN THE INTERNET lol


    HoBo T-Shift is on its way

    LOLz :D:P;)

    D,
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  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Key to fixing any mmo's pvp is to introduce pvp gear that reduces crit % and to heavily increase damage resistance.

    Relive luck base kills and have the loot easily acc ruble for newcomers. It works, and should be implemented
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

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  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    before Balancing Pvp, Someone Should Tell Some People What Tac Team Is. Today In Ker'rat A Handful Of Klinks Teamed Up And Advanced Through Spawn. At First They Had The Advantage, But Got Brutally Murdered Minutes Later By A Fed Fleet That Was Ripping Trhough Their Shields. Mainly Because I Couldn't See Anyone Using Tac Team, Except For A Couple Of Ones That Were Habitues In Ker'rat. Others Were Like Moving Targets, Just A Passage With Cannons With A Bo Could Nuke A Bort.

    Sadly, No One Teaches These Mechanics.

    Hahahahahahaha It Was Glorious !!!!!!!!!!!!! Dead Klinks Everywhere!!!!!
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  • mindsharpmindsharp Member Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    jpf2012 wrote: »
    29/8/14 punish the feds , return of the gorn foundation all donations are welcome :)

    mindsharp how many goats did you have to slaughter :))))))))))))))))))))

    ps evul sal lol im coming for ya


    \o/ Snog it worked !!!

    gorn will return : DDD

    Also, I had to sacrifice about 10 a day. There is blood everywhere in the cargo hold. Apparently the PvP Gods have been satisfied. :)

    Did you see the bring back gorn thread? the mods thought it was a esd style gorn joke thread and closed it. I was super mad about that. Dumb feds ruin everything :)
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    PUNISH THE FEDs
  • snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    :D /10char
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  • hurleybirdhurleybird Member Posts: 909
    edited August 2014
    They wouldn't know where to start as they lack the prerequisite experience necessary to balance PvP.

    They would either need to learn how to play PvP at a decent level, or consult with high level players.

    You also have to contend with the fact that this game is unbalanced by design in order to sell more shiny trinkets. Sure, you could nerf whatever the current shiny trinkets are and it would improve balance, but you'd be right back in the same spot with the next batch of trinkets anyway so why even bother?
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  • atlantraatlantra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    They will have to learn what the word 'balance' means first. Personally I don't think they know -- Correction, I don't think the lead Dev knows. The lead guy is the problem from what I read.

    IT'S VERY HARD TO BALANCE A GAME IF THE DEV IS NOT PLAYING IT.

    The so called 14 year old 'minimaxer' AKA me (I'm 28 by the way) can balance a game way better the anyone currently working on STO and never playing it. You have to play the game for more than 100 hours to get a full understanding of things.

    Anyway! I don't ever see STO pvp being balance as long as greed and money are involved... That's some sexy truth right there. Enjoy it. *kisses*
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    hurleybird wrote: »
    this game is unbalanced by design in order to sell more shiny trinkets
    ding ding ding ding
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  • dant158#3249 dant158 Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    hurleybird wrote: »
    this game is unbalanced by design

    This is, in a nutshell why STO (the part of it that mattered) has been doomed since the release of the rhode island.
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