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Undine Locbox Least Successful?
daedalus304
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I've noticed one thing whenever i go into a social zone....
the lack of ANY undine ships, least none above 2 per zone, and those 2 are rare.
not to mention the lack of anyone using Undine weapons, apart from a few ground weapons.
so is the Undine Lockbox the least successful?
the lack of ANY undine ships, least none above 2 per zone, and those 2 are rare.
not to mention the lack of anyone using Undine weapons, apart from a few ground weapons.
so is the Undine Lockbox the least successful?
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We have no way of knowing, unless a dev tells us.
However, speaking personally, due to the decision to put playable Undine ships in them I'll never open one.
No idea if I'm unique in this regard.
What about other lockbox weapons? They aren't much of a decider.
There was a huge surge of them when the box was released, as always...now people have slumped back into their staple.
As successful as any other box I would assume...
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If the box was completely terrible... or people where really "Sitting" it out because of some silly canon excuse. Then the ship wouldn't have that much "value" to people in the game.
We are at a point now where the current box isn't going to be judged as successful simply by a "it sold a ton while it was current" they will be judged by how well there value maintains itself long term.
Boxs like the hunter and the elachi didn't seem like massive sales homeruns either to people right away.... because they where basing it on the type of crazy the early boxes created during there inital runs. Cryptic has learned what sells and what keeps people buying boxes. We will have a constant supply of Elachi HIrogen and Undine ships for as long as the game is around because they where smart enough to start bundling OTHER things people really want... bad enough that they sell for 1/3 as much EC as a ship will. Things like biotech patch, fluidic coccoon, Phyc Warfare and weapons as well as the best beam escort in the game will keep that box opening for years. Just like people open the Elachi, Hirogen, Tal S, Dom boxes every day... for things like Helmsman, Inspired Leader, I strikes, Wing Commander and all the other lockbox weapons. Not to mention all the boxes since the Dom box include Rich D tickets... which plenty of people value as a way to keep a supply of D rolling on there account.
(Complete and total respect to Rinkster's and others opinions)
Looking forward to [REDACTED] coming up later this month.
I'm sorry to people who I, in the past, insulted, annoyed, etc.
And this is great news.
About weapons, i myself im building a Karfi fluidic antiproton build right now.. i really dont care about the weapon proc pff, i just like how the weapons look/sound.. thats all lol.
You may well be right, although my dim grasp of economics suggests that rarity also drives up prices.
Rarity, in this context, would mean relatively slow lock box sales.
Didn't somebody calculate the drop rates of both ships to be about what is expected for lock box ships? If that's true and the probability hasn't changed, then something else must be driving up the price and I'm pretty sure it's their relative power.
Although true, it is also true that this is one of, if not, the best beam faw escort in game at a time where there is no dilithium sink therefore the people who buy these ships have extra moola and the market fluctuated to match. Not just these undine ships bit all lockbox/lobi ships saw a big jump in price.
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Look at the escorts from the last 3 boxes... Elachi Hirogen Undine. Look at the number on the exchange... there are about = amounts. Between 12-15 at all times on the exchange. (no more undine boxes are likely not being opened vs the others... as evidence by the copious amounts of Low rent undine stuff on the exchange). The drop rate is right around the same...
The Undine ship averages the price it does because of demand... plain and simple.
People can claim to not like it all they want ... those that could care less about any canon concerns are keeping the ships price north of the previous 2 escorts. In fact the Elachi is the oldest of the 3 and instead of having a rarity increase its value beyond what you would expect, it is in fact lower. (in the case of the Tholian Orb for instance rarity drives the cost because it is likely the weakest of all the lockboxes).
People want the undine escorts like it or not... it has 5 tac consoles... and 8 weapons with a heavy escort turn and stats. It is also a boff seating ideal for the current meta of faw faw faw a2b faw faw.
You can choose not to like it but Cryptic is cleaning up don't worry.
All that said, they should never have been released to the players. Cryptic should have made "bio inspired" versions which are reverse engineered from remains of Undine ships. To me this signals that we have entered a new phase of greed on their part and Borg lock boxes are definitely on the table when the time is right. *shudders*
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Lol, new phase of greed...sad but true. I think Salieri's sig sum's up Cryptic's lock box policy quite nicely. I also agree with you on the Borg lock box ships. Watch Cryptic release them during Christmas season.
Overall though, Lock Boxes aren't popular with everyone, but it is a necessary evil to obtain Lobi crystals, and if by some blind luck you end up getting a shiny, most likely folks will plop that sucker on the exchange.
You know it
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Can those who already purchased life-time accounts get them too!? Pretty please with an andorian cherry on top?
Cheaper than your average lock box. You sir have got to be mad! I like how you think though! +1
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Really though...
A Sphere as either a sci heavy cruiser... or perhaps a heavy escort... isn't that big a deal.
For the Lobi store... a Borg Diamond Science ship.
A couple new triats... a Borg Plasma weapon type... its not that far fetched. Heck most of us have at least one ex borg in our crews.
Doesn't really sounds all that bad to me. (as long as they don't do a Borg Cube Carrier or something equally as stupid)
"And so it begins ..."
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"How will this end?"
"In fire ..."
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I know don't encourage Cryptic.
>space trees
Anyway. Are people still on about how humans and others could never be able to fly Undine ships, because Starfleet engineers totally aren't omnipotent by writer fiat and never pulled off even more insane stunts than bio-hacking a ship in canon?
I mean, I guess it's the Ferengi doing this, but come on. The Ferengi are pretty smart, seeing as how they seem to be the only faction in Trek with any understanding of how economics work...
Oh and Borg lockboxes? I really think that might be the thing to push me out of this game. The Borg suck TRIBBLE.
What makes you say that? We don't even know what will be in it.
I tend to see a lot of some lockbox ships...
As for the weapons I suspect you do not see those because they are TRIBBLE. I mean antiproton that pushes the enemy around... Can I get a collective "Big Whoop"?
(does that sound plausible?)
Just a feeling in my bones.