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Why no love for BOffs at endgame
staq16
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Something that's been bugging me for a while. Why so little use of BOffs at endgame?
Back when I was first levelling characters, the BOffs were a key part of the experience; Star Trek is all about crews, not just captains, and the older missions to a good job of capturing that. Probably the most memorable single-player incident I've had was in the Fek'lhri arc where my melee-focussed Klingon Tac Boff seemed to take over from my Engineer captain as the lead for that mission... but it really fit like a "Worf" episode of TNG.
Move to endgame, though, and those wonderfully customisable BOffs get sidelined. In ground content there's almost no use for them - Voth Battlezone being the honorable exception, but even there you can only take 2. In space, the traits of the Romulan embassy Boffs leave everything else redundant. Oh, and you can't customise those BOffs.
Cryptic could probably make a few bucks out of lockbox Boff traits - the captain traits can go for ludicurous ammounts on the exchange which is a good indicator of their popularity - and a "boxed" Space Warfare Specialist or Superior Operative trait would allow players to balance their older BOffs for newer gameplay. Or how about a ground mission where teams of players bring their Away Teams as well - the Voth Battlezone can cope with the numbers so presumably other missions could as well.
Personally, I'd love to give the crew some more screentime. Am I alone in thinking this?
Back when I was first levelling characters, the BOffs were a key part of the experience; Star Trek is all about crews, not just captains, and the older missions to a good job of capturing that. Probably the most memorable single-player incident I've had was in the Fek'lhri arc where my melee-focussed Klingon Tac Boff seemed to take over from my Engineer captain as the lead for that mission... but it really fit like a "Worf" episode of TNG.
Move to endgame, though, and those wonderfully customisable BOffs get sidelined. In ground content there's almost no use for them - Voth Battlezone being the honorable exception, but even there you can only take 2. In space, the traits of the Romulan embassy Boffs leave everything else redundant. Oh, and you can't customise those BOffs.
Cryptic could probably make a few bucks out of lockbox Boff traits - the captain traits can go for ludicurous ammounts on the exchange which is a good indicator of their popularity - and a "boxed" Space Warfare Specialist or Superior Operative trait would allow players to balance their older BOffs for newer gameplay. Or how about a ground mission where teams of players bring their Away Teams as well - the Voth Battlezone can cope with the numbers so presumably other missions could as well.
Personally, I'd love to give the crew some more screentime. Am I alone in thinking this?
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I'm also getting tired of the one-man featured episode routine. Allow us to bring down our away teams on ground maps for future FE's.
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
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I can't really remember the last time we had BOFF being a part of a FE, and by a part, I mean more than just walking skillbar shooting stuff around. The last Dyson related FE didn't had our BOFF except for a few minutes in the beginning, and before that, the Dominion FE didn't had them either, except for the fights on bajor.
I want my BOFFs !
Perhaps kill two birds with one update and allow us to choose how many we take ?
In TOS, it was the interplay between Kirk, Spock and McCoy that really made the show.
However, they are my crew and I do have them all fixed up in the uniforms I like. I'd like to take them with me if only they weren't so stupid. I guess I'll say that if the boff AI stays the same as it is now, then no I don't want to see more stuff with them. If the AI gets fixed up to make them better than they are now, then hell yeah I'd want more boff friendly content.
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Also agree with that being one of the reasons that I play quite a bit of foundry.
BOFF love nao!!
Why the hell was Tuvok beaming Shon off the Aquarius? I was way closer than Voyager. Why the hell are two -- count 'em -- two flag-ranked officers beaming down to an occupied ESD instead of my MACO-qualified assault unit, or my eight-foot-tall Gorn with a friggin' bat'leth, or my rough-and-ready party of Rihannsu and their Starfleet liaison officer?
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there ialso talk of a fleet system where you promote your boffs to captain and control your own fleet, its been met with a mixed reaction. but yes boffs have no real effect when level 50 has been hit. it does seem like a waste.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
+1. Also I actually LOL'd at "Captain Whiny B*tch of the IKS Whineatyou'"
We need the ability to appoint at least a first officer from our boffs to use on ground maps instead of our main character.
Also I was thinking the other day, it would be nice if we could have dialogue choices for our boffs in missions to stop them acting out of character. This could be done pretty simple at first, eg. rewrite each thing they say slightly to fit within three different character models:
"by the book"
"rebel"
"outsider (eg, a none star fleet character who's still on your team, e.g. Neelix, seven of nine, diplomacy boff rewards)"
Then as the game move forwards they can add more (possibly eventually even incorporating more race specific reactions) continually increasing the quality and replayability of their old missions
I loved having Worf and Tuvok along, like the episodes of TNG with Scotty and Spock. But yeah, I really don't think my characters would have tried to take back ESD without bringing some of their trusted crew, who have fought countless battles with them, to help.
K'ymara, Orion Engineer. Caedera of Borg, Liberated Borg Tactical, Elyza Vix, Joined Trill Scientist. Christina Bellona, Augmented Human Tactical.
T'Lana, Vulcan Scientist. Arbol, Martian Tactical. Ayzer Bryn, Joined Trill Engineer. Hawke, Betazoid Scientist. Karna Valkras, Klingon Engineer. Beth Parker, Human Tactical
Sarel, Romulan Engineer (Federation). Yazuri, Reman Scientist (KDF)
It'd be nice to work in tandem with the special guest stars as coordinated teams, instead of mano a mano.
My team of BOffs infiltrate from the side while their team runs interference at the main entrance, then I disable the shield generator while they withdraw, and then they provide covering fire while I exfiltrate. Then we assault the primary compound that we disabled the shield generator for, meeting up and splitting up as the attack progresses.
It would beat two admirals teaming up to shoot things.
That sounds good to me, Not all my BOFFs are straight laced
I still have my Andorian 1st officer from the old intro missions.
I always will have her on my crew, I'd just like to see her bumped up to a Purple quality BOFF.
Thank you, I'll be here all week!
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I'd like it if they patched the Defera Invasion Zone to let us take two boffs with us just like in the Voth Battlezone. One boff on New Romulus is fine as not much combat happens there.
How about a new crew vs crew gametype were we sick our boffs on each other? One way I'd suggest doing this is to just watch them fight in an arena and their Captains (Us) could bet on the outcome. Another, more complex way is that we would play as our boffs (either we'd pick one to control prior to the match or we'd be able to swap between them on the fly). Lore wise this could take place in a holodeck as combat training and as such, could be used to upgrade our boffs (They would get better from the training).
General Order 15: No flag officer shall beam into a hazardous area without armed escort. (Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan)
Cryptic stop violating Starfleet regulations...KDFs and Roms can do whatever they hell they want
I spent ages making a custom crew, looks, uniforms, bio's, decent gear and barely ever even get to use them at Endgame. Annoying. The whole ship/crew experience is so underdeveloped in STO. If they had done missions on the ship, your crew would at least been seen and used more in the generic NPC role.
Very frustrating I haven't been able to use them on the last few FE's either. Or even team up with a friend.
As if anything in STO would be in-line with established IP rules
I agree at the OP, I would like more things to do with my crew. Then again I would expect that Cryptic would at least put a little bit effort into the matter beforehand. In case you didn't notice: Like a year or so ago they broke the BOFF animations on ground. Just put your officers on follow and walk (don't run) - your BOFFs can't even walk, they will jiggle and slide all the way. And just like all the other "low priority" things they broke which basically ruin the feeling of the game, nobody seems to care about this...
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In the voth battlezone I'd like single commands that sets the boffs for things like build defenses or cover my back, my engineer boffs use their abilities in ways that are not always very helpful.