It's the dude who made the first fail movie, so now we get 3 more fail movies in a reboot, sans all the characters we've known. Not even a little excited about this.
fail movie? the original was awesome except the naive teenage girl and the geek scene. the rest of it spawned two good spinoffs from the movie and a half fail third, along with several other movies.
The orginal Stargate series went on so long and is still fairly recent that I don't really miss it or want a reboot. I think it will probably bomb like Universe.
Any Stargate is good because it's potentially nice Sci-fi.
However I'm sad at the 354 episodes* that will be relegated to 'another reality', irrelevant for the upcoming movies.
*I may be a bit off, just made a quick count in my head.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
indeed, i didnt much like the hathor storyline either. im glad when she turned into an ice block though and that tok'ra spy helping out.
"Hathor" was Stargate SG-1's "Threshold". Even the writers admitted as much later, and retconned away the, erm, exact details of how Goa'uld reproduce with later episodes.
But SG-1's like so many other shows: the first season was a bit rough for episode quality, in this case I think because they aped TNG a bit too much (right down to having nobody stop the scriptwriter for "Code of Honor" from basically reskinning the script as "Emancipation", which was roughly as bad). I think the beard-growing moment for the series was A) when they gave up on moralizing and when Bra'tac first appeared in "Bloodlines".
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
......... As long as you don't diss Atlantis we be good sir. Second you diss that, I'm driving out there and we're debating it until the cows come home :P
But yeah, they have wanted to do the Stargate movies as a trilogy for awhile now, not caring about the tv shows so I doubt anything from them will be in the movies at all.
The only thing about Atlantis I didn't like was that annoying soldier who took to much Wraith juice and got a big bug eye, super powers and turned into an annoying brat stomping his feet about no one believing he could solve every problem, ever. Rainbow Sun Francs played him.
He was like the Slamek of SGA.
I did love Skinner from XFiles and the Dr from Voyager having their little dialogue about wearing suits vs uniforms cuz they both used to wear the opposite in their original shows.
Plus that episode where Neelix and Phlox were arguing about which was stupider, Star Wars vs Star Trek was Sci-Fi nerd gold.
I'm... getting a bit burned out by reboots. It seems like everything is a reboot now. While I always reserve judgment, I have to wonder why Hollywood thinks all of these remakes and reimaginings are a good idea. All it's telling me is that they have no new ideas.
The only thing about Atlantis I didn't like was that annoying soldier who took to much Wraith juice and got a big bug eye, super powers and turned into an annoying brat stomping his feet about no one believing he could solve every problem, ever. Rainbow Sun Francs played him.
Seems like a bad idea. I thoroughly enjoyed the early seasons of SG1 when it was still the 'explore whats out there' stuff, though I'd say it truly jumped the shark about when Anubis died (much as I love Ben Browder and Claudia Black, the scripts by then were just ludicrous). The original movie was SO BORING though, and you just know a reboot will be equally boring but with more grimdark. And then stretched into a trilogy? Yeesh.
I am just ranting about CBS not bring out a new Star Trek film / movie. The last film / series was over 10 years ago.
star trek has its reboot its not left out its JJ trek
as much is it pains me to say the prime universe is dead with the way TV mind set is now days i just dont see that type of trek coming back unless it has Kim Kardashian in it
But that's what made it so successful! It had the magic formula that balanced action, drama, and HUMOR. Babylon 5 had it too. SGU didn't and it only lasted 1 1/2-2 seasons.
SGU wasn't all that great to begin with. I watched i and was more often confused than anything else.
The only thing about Atlantis I didn't like was that annoying soldier who took to much Wraith juice and got a big bug eye, super powers and turned into an annoying brat stomping his feet about no one believing he could solve every problem, ever. Rainbow Sun Francs played him.
He was like the Slamek of SGA.
I did love Skinner from XFiles and the Dr from Voyager having their little dialogue about wearing suits vs uniforms cuz they both used to wear the opposite in their original shows.
Plus that episode where Neelix and Phlox were arguing about which was stupider, Star Wars vs Star Trek was Sci-Fi nerd gold.
Gotta love recycling used Sci-Fi actors/resses.
~CaptainSmirk
Wait, what? Neelix in Stargate? I have no memory of Ethan Phillips in there. But Phlox sure was.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Sadly I'm not excited about this. Roland Emmerich has been rather vocal about his dislike of the TV shows and anything he does with these movies is likely to be sort of aggressively revisionist and antagonistic toward the shows, when frankly what I want is more stuff from the shows!
I'd much rather have more SG-1 movies or an Atlantis movie. Emmerich's movie was decent, but the shows elevated it far beyond what it originally was.
...and, they have a good reason.
"Stargate (1994)" and "Stargate SG-1" are not the same. Even though they belong to the same franchise, "Stargate SG-1" revised the elements established in "Stargate ('94)". If you go back to watch the original movie, you would notice that it contains a dark, gritty, and realistic storyline.
Some of the inconsistencies:
"Stargate (1994)" - was an awe inspiring, thought provoking, and fantastical science-fiction movie.
"Stargate SG-1" - was a campy (while sometimes comical) science-fiction television series.
"Stargate (1994)" - Jack's son was named Tyler O'Neil
"Stargate SG-1" - Jack's son was named Charlie O'Neill
"Stargate (1994)" - Jack's last name was spelled O'Neil
"Stargate SG-1" - Jack's last name was spelled O'Neill
"Stargate (1994)" - Anubis guards were just human slaves, which Ra' controlled with technology.
"Stargate SG-1" - Jaffa guards were groomed to be incubators for Goa'uld.
"Stargate (1994)" - Ra' was an alien similar to those theoretically found at Roswell.
"Stargate SG-1" - Ra' was a serpent alien called a Goa'uld.
"Stargate (1994)" - Daniel Jackson was a humbled archeologist.
"Stargate SG-1" - Daniel Jackson was a redeemed archeologist with military training.
"Stargate '94" should have spawned a series that mirrored 'Children of Dune'. While "Stargate SG-1" was a great show, the series missed the overall logic established in the movie.
...and, now we will see what was originally intended.
SG- Atlantis.. Movie desired: the war with the wraith
We had the tech, a fully powered atlantis.. re-fit it with some Asguard tech and a few re-tooled ships and the battle could have been epic..
Would have been the Atlantis DVD film. They were gonna fly the city back to pegasus and deal with the wraith. But it was canned because sgu bombed.
As for sgu, I watched the first EP. But when they dialled out using earth as the point of origin, when they weren't on earth... I stopped. If you can't follow the most basic law of your own universe, something that has been the driving force of 15 seasons, I have no desire to watch it.
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A Romulan Strike Team, Missing Farmers and an ancient base on a Klingon Border world. But what connects them? Find out in my First Foundary mission: 'The Jeroan Farmer Escapade'
Nitpicking is a time-honored tradition of science fiction. Asking your readers not to worry about the "little things" is like asking a dog not to sniff at people's crotches. If there's something that appears to violate natural laws, then you can expect someone's going to point it out. That's just the way things are.
But that's what made it so successful! It had the magic formula that balenced action, drama, and HUMOR. Babylon 5 had it too. SGU didn't and it only lasted 1 1/2-2 seasons.
That had a lot to do with bad timing, centered on the fact that the Sci Fi Channel execs OD'd on stupid pills in the mid-2000s. They killed off basically their entire lineup of original sci-fi shows, starting with SG-1, and replaced them with pro wrestling and crappy B-movies.
What doomed SGU wasn't just the fact that it didn't appeal to the existing fanbase, but also the fact that the network decided to change from their previous very successful counter-scheduling strategy (putting shows in timeslots that are little-watched). They moved SGU from Fridays to the same timeslot as NCIS, the most-watched show in the United States at that time, so that they could replace it with pro wrestling. And then they decided that they were going to only buy shows in half-season increments and alternate half-seasons with other shows, which as ABC learned early on with Lost is a very bad way to treat a heavily arc-based show like SGU.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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It's the dude who made the first fail movie, so now we get 3 more fail movies in a reboot, sans all the characters we've known. Not even a little excited about this.
indeed, i didnt much like the hathor storyline either. im glad when she turned into an ice block though and that tok'ra spy helping out.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
However I'm sad at the 354 episodes* that will be relegated to 'another reality', irrelevant for the upcoming movies.
*I may be a bit off, just made a quick count in my head.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
system Lord Baal is dead
"Hathor" was Stargate SG-1's "Threshold". Even the writers admitted as much later, and retconned away the, erm, exact details of how Goa'uld reproduce with later episodes.
But SG-1's like so many other shows: the first season was a bit rough for episode quality, in this case I think because they aped TNG a bit too much (right down to having nobody stop the scriptwriter for "Code of Honor" from basically reskinning the script as "Emancipation", which was roughly as bad). I think the beard-growing moment for the series was A) when they gave up on moralizing and
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
The only thing about Atlantis I didn't like was that annoying soldier who took to much Wraith juice and got a big bug eye, super powers and turned into an annoying brat stomping his feet about no one believing he could solve every problem, ever. Rainbow Sun Francs played him.
He was like the Slamek of SGA.
I did love Skinner from XFiles and the Dr from Voyager having their little dialogue about wearing suits vs uniforms cuz they both used to wear the opposite in their original shows.
Plus that episode where Neelix and Phlox were arguing about which was stupider, Star Wars vs Star Trek was Sci-Fi nerd gold.
Gotta love recycling used Sci-Fi actors/resses.
~CaptainSmirk
SGU was the single best part of the Stargate franchise; the only show in the set you could take seriously.
It still hurts that they cut it after a brilliant series two. I mean damn, they let Stargate Atlantis cheese on for five series...
Didn't care for that myself.
system Lord Baal is dead
You are the worst TV company ever, CBS (or is Paramount?).
Bloody hell, I just hate them. Ridiculous. In-fact, I'm so angry at this moment, I'm not even going to articulate my anger towards them.
Congrats SG on getting a re-boot.
I hope STO get's better ...
Mgm...................
system Lord Baal is dead
Hmm, shark jumping.......new Risa activity?
I know.
I am just ranting about CBS not bring out a new Star Trek film / movie. The last film / series was over 10 years ago.
I hope STO get's better ...
star trek has its reboot its not left out its JJ trek
as much is it pains me to say the prime universe is dead with the way TV mind set is now days i just dont see that type of trek coming back unless it has Kim Kardashian in it
system Lord Baal is dead
Someone appears to be suffering from Highlander 2 Syndrome.....
SGU wasn't all that great to begin with. I watched i and was more often confused than anything else.
Wait, what? Neelix in Stargate? I have no memory of Ethan Phillips in there. But Phlox sure was.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
We had the tech, a fully powered atlantis.. re-fit it with some Asguard tech and a few re-tooled ships and the battle could have been epic..
Yeah, he's confusing Patrick McKenna of Red Green Show fame for Ethan. Ethan wasn't in that episode.
"Stargate (1994)" and "Stargate SG-1" are not the same. Even though they belong to the same franchise, "Stargate SG-1" revised the elements established in "Stargate ('94)". If you go back to watch the original movie, you would notice that it contains a dark, gritty, and realistic storyline.
Some of the inconsistencies:
"Stargate (1994)" - was an awe inspiring, thought provoking, and fantastical science-fiction movie.
"Stargate SG-1" - was a campy (while sometimes comical) science-fiction television series.
"Stargate (1994)" - Jack's son was named Tyler O'Neil
"Stargate SG-1" - Jack's son was named Charlie O'Neill
"Stargate (1994)" - Jack's last name was spelled O'Neil
"Stargate SG-1" - Jack's last name was spelled O'Neill
"Stargate (1994)" - Anubis guards were just human slaves, which Ra' controlled with technology.
"Stargate SG-1" - Jaffa guards were groomed to be incubators for Goa'uld.
"Stargate (1994)" - Ra' was an alien similar to those theoretically found at Roswell.
"Stargate SG-1" - Ra' was a serpent alien called a Goa'uld.
"Stargate (1994)" - Daniel Jackson was a humbled archeologist.
"Stargate SG-1" - Daniel Jackson was a redeemed archeologist with military training.
"Stargate '94" should have spawned a series that mirrored 'Children of Dune'. While "Stargate SG-1" was a great show, the series missed the overall logic established in the movie.
...and, now we will see what was originally intended.
Would have been the Atlantis DVD film. They were gonna fly the city back to pegasus and deal with the wraith. But it was canned because sgu bombed.
As for sgu, I watched the first EP. But when they dialled out using earth as the point of origin, when they weren't on earth... I stopped. If you can't follow the most basic law of your own universe, something that has been the driving force of 15 seasons, I have no desire to watch it.
A Romulan Strike Team, Missing Farmers and an ancient base on a Klingon Border world. But what connects them? Find out in my First Foundary mission: 'The Jeroan Farmer Escapade'
"Stargate" the movie was entirely different.
And Jar Jar Abrams is busy with Star Wars, so...
It might not be a total Charlie Foxtrot.
Joined January 2009
That had a lot to do with bad timing, centered on the fact that the Sci Fi Channel execs OD'd on stupid pills in the mid-2000s. They killed off basically their entire lineup of original sci-fi shows, starting with SG-1, and replaced them with pro wrestling and crappy B-movies.
What doomed SGU wasn't just the fact that it didn't appeal to the existing fanbase, but also the fact that the network decided to change from their previous very successful counter-scheduling strategy (putting shows in timeslots that are little-watched). They moved SGU from Fridays to the same timeslot as NCIS, the most-watched show in the United States at that time, so that they could replace it with pro wrestling. And then they decided that they were going to only buy shows in half-season increments and alternate half-seasons with other shows, which as ABC learned early on with Lost is a very bad way to treat a heavily arc-based show like SGU.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
I agree and to me, It wouldn't be Stargate without Amanda Tapping. I had.....HAVE such a crush on her :rolleyes: