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Disappearing hotbar space skills after map loading

warladorwarlador Member Posts: 3 Arc User
edited October 2014 in PC Gameplay Bug Reports
After last nites maintence patch after se9 , my hotbar space skills keeps getting removed after every map loading....Having to keep opening the skill window and placing them on my hotbar is starting to get really annoying now..im curious if any1 else is getting this bug?? :( and I hope its get fixed soon. Btw this was happening all the time with my Science intrepid calss retrofit.
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    jessica312012jessica312012 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Same problem here , after STF or map switch some skills move out my hotbar ...... and not only my skills , all special consoles are moving out of their slots and back in my inventory after map switch or Fleet/STF mission.
    Same is happening with my doffs ... all move out her a , all this have start after seson 9.
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    kimmyyumkimmyyum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Issue: hotbar abilities don't save during mapswitches

    Hotbar abilities are moved/removed/reset when loading from a space map to a ground map and then back to a space map. I've been able to reproduce the ability in multiple maps. Other people seem to have had this issue as well. Interestingly all cases I've read so far were on recently created KDF-aligned Romulans, but that may be coincidence.

    Reproduction steps:

    1. I'm in a space map
    2. I set hotbars up to my liking
    3. I load into a ground map
    4. I load into a space map
    5. My hotbar setup is changed

    I have uploaded a short movie to youtube to illustrate the problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MX4kaK1ZAY

    I would've made a thread for this issue specifically, but I haven't been registered long enough to create threads yet. I've also sent this reply to the general Season9-issues thread.
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    catliketypingcatliketyping Member Posts: 611
    edited April 2014
    KDF-aligned KDF here ;)

    Same problem. The ship weapon loadout is fine.

    The Skill panels completely revert to something I was using a few days ago. I changed BOFFs, changed the skill panels, and renamed the Loadout... but the panels keep reverting to an old skill layout (i.e. blank spaces because I shuffled one of my BOFFs).
    Nessia (KDF Sci)
    IKS Korrasami (Fleet B'rel Bird of Prey Retrofit T5-U)
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    kimmyyumkimmyyum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    People in other threads have reported the same issue:
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=16561901&postcount=78
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1096801
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1098661

    Since this is a rather gamebreaking bug(you shouldn't have to bloody redo all your ability bars every time you load into a new map) that completely prevents people from being able to play their characters, I think it deserves a certain urgency, I'd much like a confirmation that the devs have been made aware of this issue. I've also attempted to contact a GM but am getting no response.

    I'd just like a confirmation that this bug has been noted and is being worked on.

    Again, have a look for yourself at the bug: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MX4kaK1ZAY
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    commanderkassycommanderkassy Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I'm not getting this on every character, but the one it's happening to is essentially impossible to play right now.

    I'm leaning towards not playing or spending any money until this is fixed. I was really excited for season 9, but really.. why should I pay for a broken, frustrating product? I have a lot of other games I can play.
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    adorkabledoriadorkabledori Member Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    This happens with all my alts. Fed, Romulan, KDF, even the Smurf aligned ones. It's, as the OP says, getting annoying and irritating.
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    xiaoping88xiaoping88 Member Posts: 1,493 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Happens to my Fed character. :(
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    aveldraaveldra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    It amazes me how long some bugs can go on in this game. I too was excited to come back and play this game but you know what I can't even enjoy the new season because of this gamebreaking bug. Everytime I zone in to the ground I have to reset my tray, I've gotten suggestions how to fix it which range from changing boffs to deleting boffs and ships...really?

    I try not to post on forums angry but this is incredibly frustrating and you know what it's incredible how bugs persist in this game. Please for goodness sake fix this or at least acknowledge it in the patch notes that you're aware of it and working on it.
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    slyguy8611slyguy8611 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I was hoping to get some feedback on this bug, it started awhile back now then it stopped and now it started up again and it is extremely frustrating to say the least.
    I dont wanna stop playing the game but if this continues i feel my money and time can be spent on other games that arnt having problems like this bug.
    The bug itself dates back before '11 and i cant believe that it is still causing problems.
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    alyciatalalyciatal Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Just followin the others reporting this bug: switch warbird doesn't work and it's really frustrating, expecially when you go on without remembering and then engage some combat...

    As for me, it's all in the Big Personal Tray, who keep going back to the first configuration it automatically made when first readied the starship. Please fix!
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    apostelpiotrapostelpiotr Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Just reporting - the same problem here. Just bought my new fleet ship, and this problem appeared. Very annoying, frustrating -especially, when i had to spend almost all my credits, (fleet and energy) for new Patrol Escort.
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    kira30kira30 Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I'm not getting this on every character, but the one it's happening to is essentially impossible to play right now.

    I'm leaning towards not playing or spending any money until this is fixed. I was really excited for season 9, but really.. why should I pay for a broken, frustrating product? I have a lot of other games I can play.

    That's why I dropped my sub lastnight, been trying to help support the game with a few dollars here and there, but enough is enough when nothing ever gets fixed :P I didn't even use the loadout feature and I've had this issue for over a week and using the same skills and reporting it is pointless since it's been a prob for a few years now I guess according to many others. It's annoying as hell entering a event battle in space and coming under attack as soon as you zone in while you sit and waste time putting all your skills on the action bar...:mad: this happens every single time lol. I've looked through a few threads about this same problem and noticed not one single reply of acknowledgement about the issue from a "Dev" or whoever has even been spotted. I'm sure this will eventually get noticed once they finish some new lockboxes to be implemented in the next update....
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    coolheadalcoolheadal Member Posts: 1,253 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    As for me, it's all in the Big Personal Tray, who keep going back to the first configuration it automatically made when first readied the starship. Please fix!

    Same for me too, but looks like it happens when you beam down to a planet or starbase. Settings are okay when you go on mission some missions it can randomly change back to the default layout.

    Buffer allocation or we just need to have lock and a [SAVE] button instead of the just [OK] is just not enough. Something has changed somewhere this issue causing me to stop and reconfigure then go on into mission by the time I get to the short time limits for Voth battles the timer runs out because I had to reconfigure my trays for the battle every time I start that battle. I take the shuttle to the battlezone then beam to Undine space battle and find out all my tray settings are gone to the default mode.

    This needs to be addressed! Thanks..
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    fcsp1910fcsp1910 Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    - Do your ship setups ONLY IN SECTOR SPACE!!! Did one recently in First City orbit and my tray was completely messed up on joining an STF afterwards :(

    Bugs seem to appear at swapping ships at ESD & starbase as well. Did one today on our starbase and had a skill and one slotted active doff missing...

    - After finishing your setup SAVE the loadout and swap ships and back to see if it's still in your setup condition. Works nicely for me on swapping between my 'fighting' ship and freighter...

    - Check you tray setup after you have trained a boff for another player and/or on letting another boff joining your crew. In most cases your tray is likely to be messed up again.
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    coolheadalcoolheadal Member Posts: 1,253 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    fcsp1910 wrote: »
    - Do your ship setups ONLY IN SECTOR SPACE!!! Did one recently in First City orbit and my tray was completely messed up on joining an STF afterwards :(

    Bugs seem to appear at swapping ships at ESD & starbase as well. Did one today on our starbase and had a skill and one slotted active doff missing...

    - After finishing your setup SAVE the loadout and swap ships and back to see if it's still in your setup condition. Works nicely for me on swapping between my 'fighting' ship and freighter...

    - Check you tray setup after you have trained a boff for another player and/or on letting another boff joining your crew. In most cases your tray is likely to be messed up again.

    Thanks but nothing works! It always reverts back to the default when you first get the ship. Either we all have way to much consoles/training skills from our bridge officers or the system can't handle the loading of our configurations.

    SAVE button with enough slots to support what we are given now would fix this issue plus whatever other known cause of this problem on their end not ours needs to be TOP PRIORITY! I am not even bothering to lock them into place since they will not stay put. After coming back from mission load or beaming down to any planet or space station. Always the same situation! REVERT TIME!

    VOTH and UNDINE will have to wait until I get my consoles in order to do battle with them. Might be the next round not current round at this rate.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Time will only tell!
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    thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,541 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Something one of my Fleetmates suggested. It isn't perfect but it does reduce the aggravation somewhat.

    - Setups are to be done in Sector Space only.
    - Clear everything from all of the trays you are not using. These must be completely empty.
    - Leave the trays Unlocked. So if something does move it is easier to return to the slot you want.
    - After setting up a ship, save to both the Loadout slots.
    - After swapping out anything at all on the ship, repeat the above.

    Like I said it isn't perfect. Once in awhile any Batteries I have slotted in the tray wander off to the first tray I am not using.

    Hope this helps.
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    coolheadalcoolheadal Member Posts: 1,253 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Something one of my Fleetmates suggested. It isn't perfect but it does reduce the aggravation somewhat.

    - Setups are to be done in Sector Space only.
    - Clear everything from all of the trays you are not using. These must be completely empty.
    - Leave the trays Unlocked. So if something does move it is easier to return to the slot you want.
    - After setting up a ship, save to both the Loadout slots.
    - After swapping out anything at all on the ship, repeat the above.

    Like I said it isn't perfect. Once in awhile any Batteries I have slotted in the tray wander off to the first tray I am not using.

    Hope this helps.

    Sounds good though, thanks for your suggestions. Every little bit will help everyone here! :)

    Seems to be on-going work-in-progress. Just have to make do then. I seen under my Romulan his ship layout after days re-adding it hasn't drop off. Well this just another day like today. Again both trays a full though. It's like the system loaded everything except 3 items.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Time will only tell!
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    praotectrekkiepraotectrekkie Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I tried to configure the tray in Sector Space. When I entered the Dyson Spehere Allied Space the icons remained, but as soon as I tried to beam down to Dyson Command and then back to the ship the icons were gone again. Till this bug is fixed I may be able to configure them once more and do a mission, but when I beam anywhere I'll have to repeat all this or stay "stuck to the ground".
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    warfrogdudewarfrogdude Member Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I will be back after they fix the power tray:mad:
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    ballzthecatballzthecat Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I have also been having this problem. I even tried creating a new character and that did not even work. This is a major problem and they need to get off there butts and do something. I'm sure I am not alone in saying that I am ready to just give up on this game. It is really lame of them not to even respond to this. I honestly starting to think that Perfect World or whoever in in charge of this, just does not care.
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    omegaprimary01omegaprimary01 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It will be nice when we can save hotbar layouts
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited May 2014
    The're supposed to be saved with the loadout.

    Any eta on this fix? I enter a new map with a dozen or so skills missing.

    My tac really doesn't have this issue, as I can grab skills quickly from the boff trays.

    For my sci - it's life or death. missing 6 skills neuters my ship.
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    captxpendablecaptxpendable Member Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I was having this problem myself, but I found a workaround. I found out that if you swap your ship then swap back in space, it will save your new hotbar set up and the problem goes away, at least until the next time you need to change them. If you forget to swap ships then, they will reset to the "last save" made when you last changed ships.
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    gameleechgameleech Member Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I hope they can fix this issue. It seems to affect all my characters now, 100% of the time I change maps.
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    crypticfrostcrypticfrost Member Posts: 1,479 Cryptic Developer
    edited May 2014
    This is a known issue and our programmers are working on a fix. This has been a tough bug to squash as it doesn't affect every character in the game, so they need to get a fix for the affected characters while making sure they don't break things for everyone else.

    The issue is not being ignored, it's just proving difficult to fix.
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    quepanquepan Member Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    on the 2 toons ive tested on , i have one ship on each that works correctly with the loadouts , but anytime i use another ship , no other loadouts will function you can save them but not load them , any change to the ship messes with the abilities tray and any time i load the ship ,load that character with that ship selected , messes with the tray as well .

    i realize your having hard time , but i find it hard to believe that there are players that use the system that dont have the issue. anyone that i know that has tried the system has this issue and others have it without even trying it . i have yet to come across anyone that doesnt have a small issue with the new system on at least one ship in there roster .
    this is not just a few players issue this is alot bigger than your making it to be .
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    philipclaybergphilipclayberg Member Posts: 1,680
    edited May 2014
    It only happens with my female Romulan character and only since she switched from Solenae destroyer to Ambassador class cruiser. Space rack #1 in hotbar is just fine. But I also have space rack #2 set up and have to keep resetting it when I switch to her (the character) and have her beam up to her ship. Glad to hear it's part of the Bug Hunt.
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    khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2014
    I have this issue on 3/14 characters.

    There is a 'workaround' which somebody posted in the main thread about this issue.

    When you change anything power related (move something on the hotbar, change a boff, change a set which gives a bonus power etc) you need to
    1- Save the loadout
    2- Switch to a different ship
    3- Switch back to the ship you want to use (means waiting for the cooldown timer to expire)

    That does 'fix' the issue, even if it is extremely annoying because you have to do it every single time you change something.

    Also, be sure not to leave any BOFF powers out of the hotbar. For example, if you don't normally slot BOFF powers to your hotbar, slot them anyway somewhere in one of the upper rows otherwise some of them will auto add on a map change.


    Really, until the issues are fixed with the loadout system, I'd like the option to delete loadouts so we can simply stop using them on the affected characters until they are fixed.
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    canis36canis36 Member Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    This is a known issue and our programmers are working on a fix. This has been a tough bug to squash as it doesn't affect every character in the game, so they need to get a fix for the affected characters while making sure they don't break things for everyone else.

    The issue is not being ignored, it's just proving difficult to fix.

    Would details of how various characters have come to be affected be of help, or have they gathered enough information to pin down the cause and are just having trouble with a fix that doesn't break the game further?
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    thegreyw0lfthegreyw0lf Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    That is definitely the most frustrating part about this bug. when it happens when you hit sector space, eh no big deal ill just auto pilot to my destination and fix it on the way, but then when you're in mission, you beam back up to your ship, staring at 8 hostiles, your sitting there going oh darn wheres my cloak so I can fix this. and boom you die.... This is a rare bug issue, as in it doesn't happen to me that often, but when it does, it makes the game so much more frustrating that I just have to stop playing.
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