I don't care if they look different, I just hate the colour green. :P
Greetings, Kermit the Frog here
And today I'd like to tell you a little bit about the color green
Do you know what's green
Well I am for one thing
You see frogs are green, and I'm a frog
And that means that I'm green, you see
It's not that easy being green
Having to spend each day the color of the leaves
When I think it could be nicer being red, or yellow, or gold
Or something much more colorful like that
It's not easy being green
It seems you blend in with so many other ordinary things
And people tend to pass you over
'Cause you're not standing out
Like flashy sparkles in the water
Or stars in the sky
But green's the color of spring
And green can be cool and friendly-like
And green can be big like a mountain
Or important like a river
Or tall like a tree
When green is all there is to be
It could make you wonder why
But why wonder why wonder
I am green, and it'll do fine
It's beautiful, and I think it's what I want to be
Okay, I like green on certain things. Neon green laser barf is not one of them.
Back in my day of white armor and helmets, all we had was green in our TIE Fighters and we were thankful for it! You youngins today and your f ancy red and blue lasers...
Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
I guess there's little chance of Cryptic changing it now. Can only hold out hope that one day we will get a federation advance technologies set for canon phasers / quantums or something.
This reminds me of the time I saw First Contact in the theaters and everyone booed the white quantum torpedoes! I had to stop my girlfriend from throwing popcorn.
Wouldn't it be cool if you could set each array to fire a different color? Read that rainbow $#&%@...
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"The more complex the mind, the greater the need for the simplicity of play." - James T. Kirk
eh, i can see the practicality of it from their angle, different colors make it easier for people to know they got their special weapons equipped.
This argument is already obsolete because it is already hard to tell if you use regular disrupter or nanite disruptor, or now the these bio disrupter .
This reminds me of the time I saw First Contact in the theaters and everyone booed the white quantum torpedoes! I had to stop my girlfriend from throwing popcorn.
Wouldn't it be cool if you could set each array to fire a different color? Read that rainbow $#&%@...
Yeah -- it would be nice if they weren't green, because of this I won't be doing the special turret project (phaser) or getting any of the phaser weapons on my Feds. My KDF on the other hand...
Please Cryptic, Orange/Red with a Dark Green/Blackish core... or at the very least regular phaser orange. As many have said, they were NOT green on Voyager, and if that's the reason for the torpedo being green (Voyager) then the phasers should not be green.
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Yeah -- it would be nice if they weren't green, because of this I won't be doing the special turret project (phaser) or getting any of the phaser weapons on my Feds. My KDF on the other hand...
Please Cryptic, Orange/Red with a Dark Green/Blackish core... or at the very least regular phaser orange. As many have said, they were NOT green on Voyager, and if that's the reason for the torpedo being green (Voyager) then the phasers should not be green.
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Bio-molecular weapons are not Undine weapons. They were invented to counter the Undine in combat. They were never on Voyager.
Bio-molecular weapons are not Undine weapons. They were invented to counter the Undine in combat. They were never on Voyager.
People above appear to disagree with you and have even posted links to the episodes... Besides I never said they were UNDINE weapons...
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CBS does not have to sign everything but a lot, I don't think weapons color is something they have to sign.
I believe their concerns for STO are typically more merchandising based.
Hence signage, ship looks, and energy colors get more scrutiny, not less. It's more likely that story or even method of ship delivery would get less I think than something like weapon color unless the story involved a canon character. The approvals seem very similar to toy or model approvals.
CBS specifically has given notes on weapon colors before and I think Cryptic likely lobbied for the green phasers for the sake of game mechanics. Probably using the torpedo as an example.
I think if you really pushed, Cryptic might go for some kind of orange/green combo or a sickly orange but they would not be willing to have these match regular phasers perfectly.
I agree, I understand that there is method behind the green choice, they can't be exactly the same as normal phasers. Do they have to look like disruptors?
Perhaps as stoleviathan99 has said it could be an orange phaser with a different effect. It would be cool dor the beams to have the standard orange that phase to green slightly in some way.
its green beause its BIOMOLECULAR. of course its a different color, just like retro phasers/andorian phasers arent orange either.
keyword is BIOMOLECULAR. People are in this thread claiming they are undine weapons as seen in voyager. WRONG!! They are NOT UNDINE WEAPONS. Those are the fluidic guns. They are ANTI UNDINE WEAPONS. So they don't even exist in canon anyway.
If you're mad then just use the starfleet trash or elite phasers. Want to stick to a canon starfleet 'theme?' Stay away from the bio-molecular weapons then. Want to fly an anti-undine ship? Go nuts.
When you pick a 'theme' you sacrifice some ability, this is true in EVERY game, so what's with all the QQ?
its green beause its BIOMOLECULAR. of course its a different color, just like retro phasers/andorian phasers arent orange either.
keyword is BIOMOLECULAR. People are in this thread claiming they are undine weapons as seen in voyager. WRONG!! They are NOT UNDINE WEAPONS. Those are the fluidic guns. They are ANTI UNDINE WEAPONS. So they don't even exist in canon anyway.
If you're mad then just use the starfleet trash or elite phasers. Want to stick to a canon starfleet 'theme?' Stay away from the bio-molecular weapons then. Want to fly an anti-undine ship? Go nuts.
When you pick a 'theme' you sacrifice some ability, this is true in EVERY game, so what's with all the QQ?
In two episodes of Voyager phasers were modified to carry borg nanites to harm Species 8472. These modified phasers were refered to as bio-molecular weapons and they fired ORANGE beams. The orange beam is canon. It's annoying that every disruptor except the Spiral Waves fire some shade of green - so they 'fit' - but the first truly unique phaser looks like disruptors too.
In two episodes of Voyager phasers were modified to carry borg nanites to harm Species 8472. These modified phasers were refered to as bio-molecular weapons and they fired ORANGE beams. The orange beam is canon. It's annoying that every disruptor except the Spiral Waves fire some shade of green - so they 'fit' - but the first truly unique phaser looks like disruptors too.
Strange. All I remember is Voyager using modified torpedos.
Yeah, I wasn't too happy with the green, I like to keep my ships looking as canon as possible, generally. I wouldn't have minded a variant on the phaser effect, for example, I love the elachi disruptor effect on my Klingon thrown in with the standard disruptors.
But I think that's part of the problem, there's a LOT of the other energy types, whereas this seems like the first time phasers have had a pass, and they're disruptor coloured, just to keep things confusing.
In two episodes of Voyager phasers were modified to carry borg nanites to harm Species 8472. These modified phasers were refered to as bio-molecular weapons and they fired ORANGE beams. The orange beam is canon. [snip]
WHAT?? Where's your evidence Got a screenshot? Is there a memory alpha article (Hint: there isn't) Are you king of all things trek we should take your word? Or are you just mad about new non-orange phasers? How about some proof, sir? Oh wait, here we go...
no single mention of bio-molecular phasers. nor are any FIRED. The only orange beams fired are the Undine ones. Go ahead and pull up the full thing if you feel like wasting your time; they aren't in there.
So... where's the proof? Where's the "CANON" everyone keeps talking about here? Because so far it doesn't seem to exist except in their imaginations.
WHAT?? Where's your evidence Got a screenshot? Is there a memory alpha article (Hint: there isn't) Are you king of all things trek we should take your word? Or are you just mad about new non-orange phasers? How about some proof, sir? Oh wait, here we go...
no single mention of bio-molecular phasers. nor are any FIRED. The only orange beams fired are the Undine ones. Go ahead and pull up the full thing if you feel like wasting your time; they aren't in there.
So... where's the proof? Where's the "CANON" everyone keeps talking about here? Because so far it doesn't seem to exist except in their imaginations.
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THOSE WERE GREEN TOPEDOES, we are talking about PHASERS, those weren't *green* PHASERS
"In every age,
In every place,
The deeds of men remain the same..."
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THOSE WERE GREEN TOPEDOES, we are talking about PHASERS, those weren't *green* PHASERS
The fellow I quoted and was directing most of my conversation to said
These modified phasers were refered to as bio-molecular weapons and they fired ORANGE beams.
So where's those bio molecular phasers mentioned at in the episode? I'm totally down with being corrected. It'd be great. Awesome even. I'd totally understand. But sadly even the full episode only mentions the warheads... Can't be mad about canon orange bio molecular phasers if they never appeared.
Just woke up, unlocked T4 and wanted to equip my ship with bio-molecular phasers (Starfleet char, already had a double Acc one from a reward box etc.). Opened the shop, went to the beam array tab and started buying double Acc beam arrays. After the second I realized that those were disruptors.:mad: Wouldn't have happened if both weren't green and the icons weren't only set apart by tiny differences. Meh. Now my ship has disruptors, had to buy one more than I wanted but who cares? Green is green and parties at disruptor beach are fun.:rolleyes:
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Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
WHAT?? Where's your evidence Got a screenshot? Is there a memory alpha article (Hint: there isn't) Are you king of all things trek we should take your word? Or are you just mad about new non-orange phasers? How about some proof, sir? Oh wait, here we go...
no single mention of bio-molecular phasers. nor are any FIRED. The only orange beams fired are the Undine ones. Go ahead and pull up the full thing if you feel like wasting your time; they aren't in there.
So... where's the proof? Where's the "CANON" everyone keeps talking about here? Because so far it doesn't seem to exist except in their imaginations.
And how do torpedoes, which no one in this thread has complained about, relate to the colour of the energy weapons?
Has JJ Abrahms moved into STO and is reinventing star trek here too now
Phasers are Orange not green
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
WHAT?? Where's your evidence Got a screenshot? Is there a memory alpha article (Hint: there isn't) Are you king of all things trek we should take your word? Or are you just mad about new non-orange phasers? How about some proof, sir? Oh wait, here we go...
no single mention of bio-molecular phasers. nor are any FIRED. The only orange beams fired are the Undine ones. Go ahead and pull up the full thing if you feel like wasting your time; they aren't in there.
So... where's the proof? Where's the "CANON" everyone keeps talking about here? Because so far it doesn't seem to exist except in their imaginations.
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Greetings, Kermit the Frog here
And today I'd like to tell you a little bit about the color green
Do you know what's green
Well I am for one thing
You see frogs are green, and I'm a frog
And that means that I'm green, you see
It's not that easy being green
Having to spend each day the color of the leaves
When I think it could be nicer being red, or yellow, or gold
Or something much more colorful like that
It's not easy being green
It seems you blend in with so many other ordinary things
And people tend to pass you over
'Cause you're not standing out
Like flashy sparkles in the water
Or stars in the sky
But green's the color of spring
And green can be cool and friendly-like
And green can be big like a mountain
Or important like a river
Or tall like a tree
When green is all there is to be
It could make you wonder why
But why wonder why wonder
I am green, and it'll do fine
It's beautiful, and I think it's what I want to be
Back in my day of white armor and helmets, all we had was green in our TIE Fighters and we were thankful for it! You youngins today and your f ancy red and blue lasers...
Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
Wouldn't it be cool if you could set each array to fire a different color? Read that rainbow $#&%@...
"The more complex the mind, the greater the need for the simplicity of play." - James T. Kirk
This argument is already obsolete because it is already hard to tell if you use regular disrupter or nanite disruptor, or now the these bio disrupter .
Technically you can...
Please Cryptic, Orange/Red with a Dark Green/Blackish core... or at the very least regular phaser orange. As many have said, they were NOT green on Voyager, and if that's the reason for the torpedo being green (Voyager) then the phasers should not be green.
My 2ec
Please enable us to buy a token with Zen to faction change a 25th Century FED to a TOS FED.
Bio-molecular weapons are not Undine weapons. They were invented to counter the Undine in combat. They were never on Voyager.
People above appear to disagree with you and have even posted links to the episodes... Besides I never said they were UNDINE weapons...
Please enable us to buy a token with Zen to faction change a 25th Century FED to a TOS FED.
I believe their concerns for STO are typically more merchandising based.
Hence signage, ship looks, and energy colors get more scrutiny, not less. It's more likely that story or even method of ship delivery would get less I think than something like weapon color unless the story involved a canon character. The approvals seem very similar to toy or model approvals.
CBS specifically has given notes on weapon colors before and I think Cryptic likely lobbied for the green phasers for the sake of game mechanics. Probably using the torpedo as an example.
I think if you really pushed, Cryptic might go for some kind of orange/green combo or a sickly orange but they would not be willing to have these match regular phasers perfectly.
Perhaps as stoleviathan99 has said it could be an orange phaser with a different effect. It would be cool dor the beams to have the standard orange that phase to green slightly in some way.
But are still distinctly starfleet orange.
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keyword is BIOMOLECULAR. People are in this thread claiming they are undine weapons as seen in voyager. WRONG!! They are NOT UNDINE WEAPONS. Those are the fluidic guns. They are ANTI UNDINE WEAPONS. So they don't even exist in canon anyway.
If you're mad then just use the starfleet trash or elite phasers. Want to stick to a canon starfleet 'theme?' Stay away from the bio-molecular weapons then. Want to fly an anti-undine ship? Go nuts.
When you pick a 'theme' you sacrifice some ability, this is true in EVERY game, so what's with all the QQ?
In two episodes of Voyager phasers were modified to carry borg nanites to harm Species 8472. These modified phasers were refered to as bio-molecular weapons and they fired ORANGE beams. The orange beam is canon. It's annoying that every disruptor except the Spiral Waves fire some shade of green - so they 'fit' - but the first truly unique phaser looks like disruptors too.
Strange. All I remember is Voyager using modified torpedos.
But I think that's part of the problem, there's a LOT of the other energy types, whereas this seems like the first time phasers have had a pass, and they're disruptor coloured, just to keep things confusing.
WHAT?? Where's your evidence Got a screenshot? Is there a memory alpha article (Hint: there isn't) Are you king of all things trek we should take your word? Or are you just mad about new non-orange phasers? How about some proof, sir? Oh wait, here we go...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W9HCPC0jSI
7:40 "Bio molecular warheads" (green)
They only use these http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Bio-molecular_warhead
no single mention of bio-molecular phasers. nor are any FIRED. The only orange beams fired are the Undine ones. Go ahead and pull up the full thing if you feel like wasting your time; they aren't in there.
So... where's the proof? Where's the "CANON" everyone keeps talking about here? Because so far it doesn't seem to exist except in their imaginations.
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THOSE WERE GREEN TOPEDOES, we are talking about PHASERS, those weren't *green* PHASERS
In every place,
The deeds of men remain the same..."
The fellow I quoted and was directing most of my conversation to said
So where's those bio molecular phasers mentioned at in the episode? I'm totally down with being corrected. It'd be great. Awesome even. I'd totally understand. But sadly even the full episode only mentions the warheads... Can't be mad about canon orange bio molecular phasers if they never appeared.
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Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
And how do torpedoes, which no one in this thread has complained about, relate to the colour of the energy weapons?
Thread is called "Bio-Molecular Phaser Color".
Phasers are Orange not green
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Except when they're blue. Or pink. Or red. Or even green.
I don't know. Maybe because people keep saying there were bio-molecular orange phasers in Voyager. But there weren't any, in no color.
THE DEFINITIVE PROOF BIO-MOLECULAR (NANOPROBE) PHASERS ARE ORANGE.
They mentioned modifying the Phaser rifles with nanoprobe charges in the episode "Prey" 4x16
Seven protests only nanoprobes will harm 8472, Janeway asks for modifications at 21:45
Tuvok and Seven activate the nanoprobe charges on the phaser rifles at: 23:20.
Seven is startled and fires down a corridor at: 25:55.
The phaser was ORANGE!
Ship phasers are the same technology, only the torpedos were green!
Link to Memory Alpha Half way down it references the phaser in the epsode Prey.
the beam was orange