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How science can tell when guys are pretending to be women on MMORPGs

hawkwing43hawkwing43 Member Posts: 1,701 Arc User
edited May 2014 in Ten Forward
HAHA! I love it, now scientist have the answer to what many of us know already. Who is really behind the female avatar in each MMO out there. Love it love it. :D:D:D

BTW where is the study on how many ladies play as male avatars in MMORPGs? lol

http://uproxx.com/gammasquad/2014/05/science-tells-us-how-to-distinguish-men-playing-as-women-in-mmorpgs/
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  • ldvhlldvhl Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The article you linked said 7% of women play male avatars.
  • hawkwing43hawkwing43 Member Posts: 1,701 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Oh I missed that part. thx :D
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Mhm. I have make and female characters in sto as well as other games.
    And playing my female characters I do not behave one but differently then while playing my male character.
    Outside of rp obviously, but in rp every one if my characters behaves differently....
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I mostly make male characters but I also make female ones from time to time just for a change.

    i still play each characters exactly the same but i never roleplay. if i did all my female characters would still act like my male ones. i would not go to any great lengths to get mine to act any differently.
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    lol :D You needed a scientist to tell you this? :P
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I have mostly male characters but a few females. When not in RP, I act like my normal self regardless of what character I am on. Of course, when RPing, I act out the personality I created for that character in my story.
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  • kamiyama317kamiyama317 Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I wonder why girls don't bunny-hop, according to the article? Maybe they are less likely to play FPS? I have read most FPS players learn to bunny hop to make it harder for the enemy team to score a headshot on you. After a while they just start doing it out of habit in every game they play.
  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    female toons of male players should have a large visible Adams Apple
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I find it offensive that the article is readily willing to call men out for being sexist for wanting women a certain way when a lot of women want men to be a certain way as well. It seems like the entire article was dedicated to just that one point. Double standards ftl. <.<
    ursusmorologus wrote: »
    female toons of male players should have a large visible Adams Apple
    That makes no sense.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    I find it offensive that the article is readily willing to call men out for being sexist for wanting women a certain way when a lot of women want men to be a certain way as well. Double standards ftl. <.<
    ursusmorologus wrote: »
    female toons of male players should have a large visible Adams Apple

    That makes no sense.

    what is this silly argument about, both men and women have what the other want, if strongly attracted to each other it results in new humans to continue the same cycle. men cant help but look and want and neither can women, natural sexual attraction. semantics or not, its the way it is and has been like this since we humans have been hitting each other on the heads with spiked large bits or wood, later swords, then arrows then guns and then rifles. we humans are also a mass of hypocrisy, so nothing new there.

    maybe poor ursus is mistaking anatomical differences and results in the word "breasticles"? :rolleyes:.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    mirrorchaos wrote: »
    what is this silly argument about, both men and women have what the other want, if strongly attracted to each other it results in new humans to continue the same cycle. men cant help but look and want and neither can women, natural sexual attraction. semantics or not, its the way it is and has been like this since we humans have been hitting each other on the heads with spiked large bits or wood, later swords, then arrows then guns and then rifles. we humans are also a mass of hypocrisy, so nothing new there.

    maybe poor ursus is mistaking anatomical differences and results in the word "breasticles"? :rolleyes:.
    Yes, they do have what the other wants... for the most part. But they don't usually have what the other considers "ideal". What each person considers ideal comes out in artistic expression, such as character creation.
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  • frtoasterfrtoaster Member Posts: 3,352 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    That article is pretty sexist towards men, and the author seems more interested in being humorous than in reporting what the journal article says. Here is a link to the actual journal article.

    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1369118X.2013.874493?journalCode=rics20#.U2zeuSiSipp

    You can read the abstract for free, but you have to pay in order to read the full text.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    frtoaster wrote: »
    That article is pretty sexist towards men, and the author seems more interested in being humorous than in reporting what the journal article says. Here is a link to the actual journal article.

    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1369118X.2013.874493?journalCode=rics20#.U2zeuSiSipp

    You can read the abstract for free, but you have to pay in order to read the full text.

    paying to read some text? get real! and the worst bit, its just an opinion of someone and your paying them money for their bile on a website? that exactly like feeding a troll exactly what it wants.
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  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    I find it offensive that the article is readily willing to call men out for being sexist for wanting women a certain way when a lot of women want men to be a certain way as well. It seems like the entire article was dedicated to just that one point. Double standards ftl. <.<

    That makes no sense.

    havent you figured it out yet? 'real women' push back against social expectations while 'real men' strive to conform to them.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    tehbubbaloo wrote: »
    havent you figured it out yet? 'real women' push back against social expectations while 'real men' strive to conform to them.
    Seems like a broad generalization there. But I do see your point.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    what is "real" exactly. i mean humans are not pure, as genetic testing shows that ancient humanoids of various species propagated and ended up with homo-sapiens. and a "real" woman is what exactly? the most arrogant, cold, dismissive person you will find who does nothing but report you all the time and really get on your nerves because she consistently quotes rules, on top of the fact she doesnt look nice to the eye in any area? or your stereotypical blonde haired girl, big chest no brains?

    and what is a "real" man? some meat chunk lifting weights with good looks and well endowed, but yet has no real personality and just puts you to sleep in bed? i mean, its like trying to describe a taste like juicy, how can you describe juicy tasting and in what context?
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  • grace58grace58 Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Sometimes I feel like I'm the only girl that actually plays this game... Seriously we need a girl trek night or something. And no I dont mean girl avatars then that would be including all of you! =P
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    grace58 wrote: »
    Sometimes I feel like I'm the only girl that actually plays this game... Seriously we need a girl trek night or something. And no I dont mean girl avatars then that would be including all of you! =P
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  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    mirrorchaos wrote: »
    what is "real" exactly. i mean humans are not pure, as genetic testing shows that ancient humanoids of various species propagated and ended up with homo-sapiens. and a "real" woman is what exactly? the most arrogant, cold, dismissive person you will find who does nothing but report you all the time and really get on your nerves because she consistently quotes rules, on top of the fact she doesnt look nice to the eye in any area? or your stereotypical blonde haired girl, big chest no brains?

    and what is a "real" man? some meat chunk lifting weights with good looks and well endowed, but yet has no real personality and just puts you to sleep in bed? i mean, its like trying to describe a taste like juicy, how can you describe juicy tasting and in what context?

    you havent had it beaten into you enough times?

    'real women' are independent and take pride in running against the expectation of society at large. they celebrate being real by doing and being exactly what they want to be.
    real women 'have curves'. real women 'dont need a man'. real women arent glamorous.

    the 'real man' on the other hand, is compliant. he celebrates 'being real' by doing his best to ensure that he is meeting all the expectations of those around him, rather than doing and being what he wants.
    real men cry. real men pay child support. real men will never hit a woman. real men etc etc.

    just think about the context in which 'real women' and in particular 'real men' are used in everyday conversations.
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  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    grace58 wrote: »
    Sometimes I feel like I'm the only girl that actually plays this game... Seriously we need a girl trek night or something. And no I dont mean girl avatars then that would be including all of you! =P

    a real woman can admit to playing video games in her down-time.
    a real man would work overtime because he loves his family.

    see how it works?
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  • shaanithegreenshaanithegreen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Oh boy, a gender discussion on a video game board. Those always turn out well.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    tehbubbaloo wrote: »
    you havent had it beaten into you enough times?

    'real women' are independent and take pride in running against the expectation of society at large. they celebrate being real by doing and being exactly what they want to be.
    real women 'have curves'. real women 'dont need a man'. real women arent glamorous.

    the 'real man' on the other hand, is compliant. he celebrates 'being real' by doing his best to ensure that he is meeting all the expectations of those around him, rather than doing and being what he wants.
    real men cry. real men pay child support. real men will never hit a woman. real men etc etc.

    just think about the context in which 'real women' and in particular 'real men' are used in everyday conversations.
    Yeah... It's like the "No TRUE Scotsman" fallacy.... the phrase "real woman" or "real man" means whatever the person using it wants it to mean.
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  • grace58grace58 Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    tehbubbaloo wrote: »
    a real woman can admit to playing video games in her down-time.
    a real man would work overtime because he loves his family.

    see how it works?

    Well yeah that's how it should be. Family first and always.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    shaanithegreen wrote: »
    Oh boy, a gender discussion on a video game board. Those always turn out well.
    *hands you some popcorn*
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  • shaanithegreenshaanithegreen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    *hands you some popcorn*

    INCOMING GAMER DISCUSSION ABOUT GENDER! SHIELDS UP, BRING US ABOUT!

    http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/218069iBE80DD4ECCEE5B19/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1

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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    shaanithegreen wrote: »
    INCOMING GAMER DISCUSSION ABOUT GENDER! SHIELDS UP, BRING US ABOUT!

    http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/218069iBE80DD4ECCEE5B19/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1

    Remodulate the deflector to generate an inverse Sarkeesian field to cover our escape!
    Hahaha, I got the reference.

    ...*sigh* :(
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  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ursusmorologus wrote: »
    female toons of male players should have a large visible Adams Apple

    Nah... a great big floating neon arrow sign above their heads saying 'G.I.R.L' :p

    ...of course if they do that, the devs best fix the bloom and lighting settings or we'll be blinded :D
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  • steamwrightsteamwright Member Posts: 2,820
    edited May 2014
    "...the 23% of men playing as female characters": that number sounds low. I take it the article only studied men who were trying to fool others online? I ask because I've known a number of gamers, myself included, who will create a female character, but make no attempt to hide who they are. Sometimes, in the character backstory or description text they'll actually put "Gamer is a guy" or something like that.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    Hahaha, I got the reference.

    ...*sigh* :(
    Not this one? :P
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  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    reyan01 wrote: »
    I don't see the harm really; no-one is hurt by a bloke playing a woman RPG character.

    However, if said bloke tried squeezing into a white Seven of Nine catsuit in real life......


    Uggh... thanks, now I need brain bleach again..
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