I just don't see the negative to it. I try. I really try. I just do not see it. Having to toggle...even if you forget for 5-10s, you're going to hit +30% at 23-28s instead of having to wait 60s to get +33%.
What's lasting 60s in the first place where you may not have had to switch targets either to drop out an ability on an enemy or a buff/heal on a friendly?
Can drop it on a hardened target to reduce healing or increase my damage/drain to it...while dropping out heals/buffs to other players that may be in need - dropping out a some other ability as desired on another enemy.
I've seen a bunch of complaints about the toggling aspect, and I jut don't get it...don't folks see how much this offers them compared to the old version? Yes, it adds something else that has to be done...but not everything can sit on the spacebar.
i don't think popcorn is good enough for this ignorant rant...i'm gonna get myself a box of nachos.
so plz continue, it can't really be all already at only 6 pages. Though a lot of "idiocy gunpowder" was already used in the OP. There surely is a lot more where that came from.
Excuse me for having a bad 2 weeks -.-
We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
What is this thread even about? People discussing the First Amendment (which is real life politics, and therefore prohibited in the Forum Rules), censorship (which has nothing to do with STO), and general flaming.
One of these again.
I didn't actually mean to break the rules, hell I didn't originally want to take that much stupid pills, geez the OP title actually fits XD
OP, I have not yet had the opportunity to test out the new toggle SA, but I was not even aware I had one in the old system. So I cannot comment on that one all to well.
Not your fault if you don't play a sci toon, that flies a sci vessel as your main
Everybody dragging in the First Amendment and freedom of speech (including you OP) WHY? Stuff on this forum doesn't usually disappear, unless it is a general troll thread about the look of the Ha'apax, the size of the doors in the cloathing shop on ESD, or unless it is leaked info from Risa. So calm down, if that hadn't been put in the OP, the thread would not have vanished overnight.
I have had a bad couple of weeks first a good friend of mine ends up in the hospital, where they have no ****ing clue as to what is wrong with him, then add that to all the other ****, which I will not share, that I am going through at the moment, I think I am perfectly allowed to snap for a seemingly stupid reason
We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
EDIT: does anybody know the new link for reporting? I've seen a pretty huge break of the Forum Rules, which I will not state any further here, but will report.
Really? I mean really? You are going to report everyone? geez, just let this thread be lost in the flood of other threads
We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
Interpretations of the US Constitution comes under law, not politics.
isn't that a technicality?
We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
In the ToS You basically agreed to a legally binding contract that states while you do have the right to say what you want, they can still remove the post as it is THEIR forums not yours or the governments. Thank you, have a nice day.
Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
I get the difference of opinion - it's been stated by several folks out there. However, I can never get an answer as to why that particular different opinion formed. Heck, just like your reply...I went through and explained my opinion, but in return...?
one; if you have it toggled you automatically enter combat even if it targets an ally
two; once your target is destroyed, or you switch targets it toggles off(seriously? if I wanted this bull I would have played a TAC and used Fire on my mark!)
and three; its TOGGLEABLE! WHICH IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN!!
The first one - have to agree on that, that it shouldn't put you in combat unless used on an enemy. It's not even like the Fleet abilities where it depends on if the team is in combat or not. Just drops you in combat. It's the kind of feedback/suggestion that Cryptic should take note of and make a change. It was probably done as an early attempt to address being able to use it while cloaked in some fashion, eh?
The second one - is not true. Well, it's partially true. If the target is destroyed, it will toggle off - since the target is no longer there. That makes sense. You toggled it on that particular target and the target is not there...it will toggle off. However, part of the reasoning behind the toggle is precisely so you can change targets while it is toggled on instead of losing the buff. I can toggle it on NPC X or Enemy Player X or Friendly Player X, and then I can switch to NPC Y/Enemy Player Y/Friendly Player Y without losing the buff.
The third one - is part of how it is so much better than it was previously. The ability to drop it on Target X while being able to move to Target Y and Target Z, etc, etc, etc - then return to Target X.
I mean, here's an example.
New Version
So I drop SA out on the Crystalline Entity. I switch targets to drop out a Scramble on a group of Tholians. The SA is still building on the Entity. I see a group of Large Shards chasing somebody, so I switch to one and drop out a Grav Well. The SA is still building on the Entity. I see somebody else that needs a ST, so I drop that out to them. The SA is still building on the Entity. I switch back to the Entity to drop out a Tach Beam and fire off some torps or other weapons.
...I see this, can do this, I see that, can do that. The SA is still alive on the Entity.
Old Version
I target the Crystalline Entity and start to gain SA stacks. I switch targets to drop out a Scramble on a group of Tholians. I lose SA on the Entity. I start to gain SA stacks on the Tholian Recluse. I see a group of Large Shards chasing somebody, so I switch to one and drop out a Grav Well. I lose SA on the Recluse. I start to gain SA stacks on the Large Shard I targeted for the Grav Well. I see somebody else that needs a ST, so I drop that out to them. I lose SA on the Large Shard. I switch back to the Entity to drop out a Tach Beam and fire off some torps or other weapons.
...SA will start to stack again on the Entity...as long as I don't target anything else.
And that's all with it only taking 18s to get +30% vs. 60s to get +33%...as well as ignoring the healing debuff applied to enemy targets and the healing buff applied to friendly targets.
With that "New Version" part, I could have toggled SA off of the Entity - 5s later dropped it out on that guy that needed the ST if they're overly fragile and toss them more heals while SA stacks on them. 18s, 5s, 18s, 5s, 18s...64s could elapse where I stacked the Entity, stacked the healing buff on a target, and then restacked on the Entity...with a difference of ~4s.
I mean...that's just freaking awesome compared to the old version.
Really? I mean really? You are going to report everyone? geez, just let this thread be lost in the flood of other threads
Ow no, not everyone. I can take it when other people flame each other. Not my problem imo. Just one, that offended me. Although that was not his purpose, he did offend me. And I filed a ticket. I will however not discuss the matter any further in this thread, since that would be a violation of the ToS from myself.
So what you're saying is that you're both legit TRIBBLE, and angry about it? I can see that being painful, being surrounded by normal people and all, for who life and simple things are not hard.
Give us your handle in game, we'll be sure to give you a condolence catfish sandwich.
Wow, did you think that one up on your own? or did your mother help you?
Sorry, but I am actually quite intelligent, and am in no way TRIBBLE, I do have ADD, and Bi-polar disorder, but for the most part those are under control
We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
Ow no, not everyone. I can take it when other people flame each other. Not my problem imo. Just one, that offended me. Although that was not his purpose, he did offend me. And I filed a ticket. I will however not discuss the matter any further in this thread, since that would be a violation of the ToS from myself.
since you feel as though you can't share, that is fine, but now my curiosity is peaked :-/
We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
In the ToS You basically agreed to a legally binding contract that states while you do have the right to say what you want, they can still remove the post as it is THEIR forums not yours or the governments. Thank you, have a nice day.
since you obviously came in after the addition to the OP, I did point out I was being idiotic, not by choice but by stress. and thanks I hope you have a nice day as well
We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
The first one - have to agree on that, that it shouldn't put you in combat unless used on an enemy. It's not even like the Fleet abilities where it depends on if the team is in combat or not. Just drops you in combat. It's the kind of feedback/suggestion that Cryptic should take note of and make a change. It was probably done as an early attempt to address being able to use it while cloaked in some fashion, eh?
Maybe, but I really don't like it, maybe they could've made it unsueable while cloaked
The second one - is not true. Well, it's partially true. If the target is destroyed, it will toggle off - since the target is no longer there. That makes sense. You toggled it on that particular target and the target is not there...it will toggle off. However, part of the reasoning behind the toggle is precisely so you can change targets while it is toggled on instead of losing the buff. I can toggle it on NPC X or Enemy Player X or Friendly Player X, and then I can switch to NPC Y/Enemy Player Y/Friendly Player Y without losing the buff.
It tends to toggle off for me :-/ but then I seem to have all the luck
We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
I am NOT deleting anything from the original post, however I wanted to say, if you are just joining us, the idiocy is actually my own, but not because I am an idiot, rather because I have had a completely stressful couple of weeks and this topic was actually the breaking point where it was too much, and as such I apologize for any rules broken on behalf of everyone who posted in this thread
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I will reiterate, this post is protected under the First Amendment as the server is on US soil, I will ignore the censoring of cuss words however because there ARE children that play this game
I want to know what sort of ****ed up--no other way to describe it--drugs your development team were on when they thought up that TRIBBLE? Because they REALLY need to freaking share. Oh sure now we can target our friends and increase the healing, but that is ONE, count it, ONE benefit out of 3 drawbacks two of which could have been fixed in the first place.
here are the drawbacks
one; if you have it toggled you automatically enter combat even if it targets an ally
two; once your target is destroyed, or you switch targets it toggles off(seriously? if I wanted this bull I would have played a TAC and used Fire on my mark!)
and three; its TOGGLEABLE! WHICH IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN!!
OK I admit I can live with the third drawback, but seriously? Why not set it up so you can toggle it on and it stays on until you shut it off, or even until you change maps? Also if you target an ally and toggle it DON'T LET IT PUT YOU INTO RED ALERT! I mean seriously, it's the same thought process.
OK Seriously, I can live with the kit revamp, I can get over the STEALING--don't you ****ING say it wasn't cause it was!--of our rep skills, but this? This was a NEEDLESS change. One that does NOTHING except make things easier for PVPers
Oh and btw if I find out this was because of some ****ers who PVP's I will be pissed, this is NOT what I signed up for, Sorry PVPers, I don't give a **** whether or not you like what us PVEer use, your part of the game is OPTIONAL and should NEVER have such a big part of the ******ned decisions in what happen to the game
Whether or not the servers on US soil is immaterial. The First Amendment protects your speech from being censored by the government. Cryptic/PWE however can remove whatever speech they want to from these (their privately owned) servers. Crtyptic/PWE is not the Unites States congress.
But that part is an intended feature - you can start building up stacks on a big target while you deal with the riff-raff. Or target an ally (if you're not alone, be it accompanied by NPCs or other players). That's at least what I try to do. For the standard frigats, it's a waste of time to target them with Sensor Analysis, but for a Battleship or Dreadnought, it can make a difference.
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But that part is an intended feature - you can start building up stacks on a big target while you deal with the riff-raff. Or target an ally (if you're not alone, be it accompanied by NPCs or other players). That's at least what I try to do. For the standard frigats, it's a waste of time to target them with Sensor Analysis, but for a Battleship or Dreadnought, it can make a difference.
it can't target one while you are targeting others I do no think
We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
it can't target one while you are targeting others I do no think
There are three ships in front of you.
Moe
Larry
Curly
You can target Larry and toggle SA, then proceed to target Moe to fire off something, then proceed to target Curly to fire off something, and then proceed to target Larry again...where SA has been building stacks the entire time.
But that part is an intended feature - you can start building up stacks on a big target while you deal with the riff-raff. Or target an ally (if you're not alone, be it accompanied by NPCs or other players). That's at least what I try to do. For the standard frigats, it's a waste of time to target them with Sensor Analysis, but for a Battleship or Dreadnought, it can make a difference.
Yet it really only makes a REAL solid difference in PvP or if you are a dedicated healer. Like say you want to heal the Starbase in Fleet Defense, it can help there a bit. However, being a toggle in and of itself is not so great and having a cooldown between targets really is the nail in the coffin. I know even the old version did not really DO much but at least it got used on whatever I was targeting even to a tiny degree. After the change I forget to hit this thing most of the time with all the other far more important buttons I have and really it has become all but totally wasted.
Actually the Supreme court ruled that your rights DO NOT stop at the door, or in this case the sign in, of a company. I also never said there wouldn't be consequences, but I am still well within my God Given right to voice my opinion, and any form of censorship(cuss words notwithstanding) is untolerable.
I will reiterate, this post is protected under the First Amendment as the server is on US soil, I will ignore the censoring of cuss words however because there ARE children that play this game
Your first amendment means your government can't censor you, it has nothing to do with private companies censoring you.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
two; once your target is destroyed, or you switch targets it toggles off(seriously? if I wanted this bull I would have played a TAC and used Fire on my mark!)
I have two annoyances with Sensor Analysis as it is now.
Firstly, I don't like being locked out of using Full Impulse whenever I have it toggled on an Ally. It shouldn't lock you into Combat or drop you out of Cloak, it just shouldn't be able to STACK on an enemy whilst under cloak.
Secondly, is the new toggle nature. I'm not saying the increased performance isn't wonderful in many cases, but it requires extra manual micromanaging.
Each time after a foe has been destroyed, you have to first wait 5 secs for S.A. to "recharge", then toggle it back on again on a new enemy. Whenever you're fighting big powerful foes that take a while to defeat, this lag time is virtually unnoticable. But when you're fighting large crowds of weaker foes... by the time you've setup the toggle and the stacks start kicking in the enemy has probably already died; and you've ended up having to wait and/or click an extra button an awful lot of times for no real benefit.
The old passive version of SA was at least a bit easier to manage when fighting swarms of weaker foes.
One suggestion might be to allow S.A. to be toggled on YOURSELF in order to act as a slight damage/healing buff. This could be justified by saying that you are making your ship "switch all sensors to passive mode" or something. Since this would buff your damage against all foes it shouldn't grant anything like as powerful a buff as the +30% Healing/Damage maximum you can get when micromanaging S.A. and 6-stacking it... but even just the equivalent of one or two stacks (+5% Damage/+10% Healing?) would make it a bit more useful.
The other thing that's been commented upon is that it's yet another button to click on a likely already-crowded ability bar. Giving it its own mini-UI has been mentioned as a possibility here.
People like the OP are responsible for the American appearing as self righteous god driven idiots pretty much everywhere. But don't worry, every country have his special kind of people. In mine, they make us appear as rude and lacking hygiene.
Luckily, I know that not every American are like you. Meanwhile, I assure you, I'm very polite and I take a shower everyday.
Seriously, the first amendment and the "God given rights to speak" for a MMO ability...
Your first amendment means your government can't censor you, it has nothing to do with private companies censoring you.
as I have already stated in the OP which you apparently skipped the top part of, I was being idiotic, this has already been pointed out to me, and I have already admitted my mistake, I would appreciate if you would cease pointing out something that has long been taken care of
We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
I am NOT deleting anything from the original post, however I wanted to say, if you are just joining us, the idiocy is actually my own, but not because I am an idiot, rather because I have had a completely stressful couple of weeks and this topic was actually the breaking point where it was too much, and as such I apologize for any rules broken on behalf of everyone who posted in this thread
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I will reiterate, this post is protected under the First Amendment as the server is on US soil, I will ignore the censoring of cuss words however because there ARE children that play this game
I want to know what sort of ****ed up--no other way to describe it--drugs your development team were on when they thought up that TRIBBLE? Because they REALLY need to freaking share. Oh sure now we can target our friends and increase the healing, but that is ONE, count it, ONE benefit out of 3 drawbacks two of which could have been fixed in the first place.
here are the drawbacks
one; if you have it toggled you automatically enter combat even if it targets an ally
two; once your target is destroyed, or you switch targets it toggles off(seriously? if I wanted this bull I would have played a TAC and used Fire on my mark!)
and three; its TOGGLEABLE! WHICH IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN!!
OK I admit I can live with the third drawback, but seriously? Why not set it up so you can toggle it on and it stays on until you shut it off, or even until you change maps? Also if you target an ally and toggle it DON'T LET IT PUT YOU INTO RED ALERT! I mean seriously, it's the same thought process.
OK Seriously, I can live with the kit revamp, I can get over the STEALING--don't you ****ING say it wasn't cause it was!--of our rep skills, but this? This was a NEEDLESS change. One that does NOTHING except make things easier for PVPers
Oh and btw if I find out this was because of some ****ers who PVP's I will be pissed, this is NOT what I signed up for, Sorry PVPers, I don't give a **** whether or not you like what us PVEer use, your part of the game is OPTIONAL and should NEVER have such a big part of the ******ned decisions in what happen to the game
Seriously, the first amendment and the "God given rights to speak" for a MMO ability...
I do have a god given right to free speech, and part of having free speech is using it where and how I choose, sorry but this last one was just plain stupid...
We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
nah while i would agree on some of the points with Sensor Analysis.... i can't take this guys seriously because of the first amendment stuff....
I had snapped, not because of the SA stuff, that was just the last straw, but seriously sometimes you have to look past the idiot mistakes someone makes and see what ever else they are actually trying to say
We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
The First Amendment protects your freedom of speech from the government, not from a private company. If you went to McDonald's and started praising Burger King while insulting McDonald's, the franchise owner could have the police remove you from the premises (and possibly even arrest you).
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Apparantly a difference in opinion
Excuse me for having a bad 2 weeks -.-
Too late to actually stop it, but I agree that I probably should have kept better control over myself
I didn't actually mean to break the rules, hell I didn't originally want to take that much stupid pills, geez the OP title actually fits XD
Not your fault if you don't play a sci toon, that flies a sci vessel as your main
I have had a bad couple of weeks first a good friend of mine ends up in the hospital, where they have no ****ing clue as to what is wrong with him, then add that to all the other ****, which I will not share, that I am going through at the moment, I think I am perfectly allowed to snap for a seemingly stupid reason
Really? I mean really? You are going to report everyone? geez, just let this thread be lost in the flood of other threads
Interpretations of the US Constitution comes under law, not politics.
isn't that a technicality?
All law is technicalities :P
*opens mouth to say something then closes it*
I got nothing
Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
I get the difference of opinion - it's been stated by several folks out there. However, I can never get an answer as to why that particular different opinion formed. Heck, just like your reply...I went through and explained my opinion, but in return...?
This is what you had in the OP...
The first one - have to agree on that, that it shouldn't put you in combat unless used on an enemy. It's not even like the Fleet abilities where it depends on if the team is in combat or not. Just drops you in combat. It's the kind of feedback/suggestion that Cryptic should take note of and make a change. It was probably done as an early attempt to address being able to use it while cloaked in some fashion, eh?
The second one - is not true. Well, it's partially true. If the target is destroyed, it will toggle off - since the target is no longer there. That makes sense. You toggled it on that particular target and the target is not there...it will toggle off. However, part of the reasoning behind the toggle is precisely so you can change targets while it is toggled on instead of losing the buff. I can toggle it on NPC X or Enemy Player X or Friendly Player X, and then I can switch to NPC Y/Enemy Player Y/Friendly Player Y without losing the buff.
The third one - is part of how it is so much better than it was previously. The ability to drop it on Target X while being able to move to Target Y and Target Z, etc, etc, etc - then return to Target X.
I mean, here's an example.
New Version
So I drop SA out on the Crystalline Entity. I switch targets to drop out a Scramble on a group of Tholians. The SA is still building on the Entity. I see a group of Large Shards chasing somebody, so I switch to one and drop out a Grav Well. The SA is still building on the Entity. I see somebody else that needs a ST, so I drop that out to them. The SA is still building on the Entity. I switch back to the Entity to drop out a Tach Beam and fire off some torps or other weapons.
...I see this, can do this, I see that, can do that. The SA is still alive on the Entity.
Old Version
I target the Crystalline Entity and start to gain SA stacks. I switch targets to drop out a Scramble on a group of Tholians. I lose SA on the Entity. I start to gain SA stacks on the Tholian Recluse. I see a group of Large Shards chasing somebody, so I switch to one and drop out a Grav Well. I lose SA on the Recluse. I start to gain SA stacks on the Large Shard I targeted for the Grav Well. I see somebody else that needs a ST, so I drop that out to them. I lose SA on the Large Shard. I switch back to the Entity to drop out a Tach Beam and fire off some torps or other weapons.
...SA will start to stack again on the Entity...as long as I don't target anything else.
And that's all with it only taking 18s to get +30% vs. 60s to get +33%...as well as ignoring the healing debuff applied to enemy targets and the healing buff applied to friendly targets.
With that "New Version" part, I could have toggled SA off of the Entity - 5s later dropped it out on that guy that needed the ST if they're overly fragile and toss them more heals while SA stacks on them. 18s, 5s, 18s, 5s, 18s...64s could elapse where I stacked the Entity, stacked the healing buff on a target, and then restacked on the Entity...with a difference of ~4s.
I mean...that's just freaking awesome compared to the old version.
Ow no, not everyone. I can take it when other people flame each other. Not my problem imo. Just one, that offended me. Although that was not his purpose, he did offend me. And I filed a ticket. I will however not discuss the matter any further in this thread, since that would be a violation of the ToS from myself.
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Wow, did you think that one up on your own? or did your mother help you?
Sorry, but I am actually quite intelligent, and am in no way TRIBBLE, I do have ADD, and Bi-polar disorder, but for the most part those are under control
since you feel as though you can't share, that is fine, but now my curiosity is peaked :-/
since you obviously came in after the addition to the OP, I did point out I was being idiotic, not by choice but by stress. and thanks I hope you have a nice day as well
Maybe, but I really don't like it, maybe they could've made it unsueable while cloaked
It tends to toggle off for me :-/ but then I seem to have all the luck
Whether or not the servers on US soil is immaterial. The First Amendment protects your speech from being censored by the government. Cryptic/PWE however can remove whatever speech they want to from these (their privately owned) servers. Crtyptic/PWE is not the Unites States congress.
A good idea, I think not replying to everyone will help you there.
it can't target one while you are targeting others I do no think
There are three ships in front of you.
Moe
Larry
Curly
You can target Larry and toggle SA, then proceed to target Moe to fire off something, then proceed to target Curly to fire off something, and then proceed to target Larry again...where SA has been building stacks the entire time.
Yet it really only makes a REAL solid difference in PvP or if you are a dedicated healer. Like say you want to heal the Starbase in Fleet Defense, it can help there a bit. However, being a toggle in and of itself is not so great and having a cooldown between targets really is the nail in the coffin. I know even the old version did not really DO much but at least it got used on whatever I was targeting even to a tiny degree. After the change I forget to hit this thing most of the time with all the other far more important buttons I have and really it has become all but totally wasted.
Wow, you realy think your that special ???
WOW
Your first amendment means your government can't censor you, it has nothing to do with private companies censoring you.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I have two annoyances with Sensor Analysis as it is now.
Firstly, I don't like being locked out of using Full Impulse whenever I have it toggled on an Ally. It shouldn't lock you into Combat or drop you out of Cloak, it just shouldn't be able to STACK on an enemy whilst under cloak.
Secondly, is the new toggle nature. I'm not saying the increased performance isn't wonderful in many cases, but it requires extra manual micromanaging.
Each time after a foe has been destroyed, you have to first wait 5 secs for S.A. to "recharge", then toggle it back on again on a new enemy. Whenever you're fighting big powerful foes that take a while to defeat, this lag time is virtually unnoticable. But when you're fighting large crowds of weaker foes... by the time you've setup the toggle and the stacks start kicking in the enemy has probably already died; and you've ended up having to wait and/or click an extra button an awful lot of times for no real benefit.
The old passive version of SA was at least a bit easier to manage when fighting swarms of weaker foes.
One suggestion might be to allow S.A. to be toggled on YOURSELF in order to act as a slight damage/healing buff. This could be justified by saying that you are making your ship "switch all sensors to passive mode" or something. Since this would buff your damage against all foes it shouldn't grant anything like as powerful a buff as the +30% Healing/Damage maximum you can get when micromanaging S.A. and 6-stacking it... but even just the equivalent of one or two stacks (+5% Damage/+10% Healing?) would make it a bit more useful.
The other thing that's been commented upon is that it's yet another button to click on a likely already-crowded ability bar. Giving it its own mini-UI has been mentioned as a possibility here.
Luckily, I know that not every American are like you. Meanwhile, I assure you, I'm very polite and I take a shower everyday.
Seriously, the first amendment and the "God given rights to speak" for a MMO ability...
wow didn't think I could find someone this slow, hello, can you understand what I am saying?
I think that blocking anyone's thoughts is a bad thing and that makes me think I am special? Am I using small enough words for you?
as I have already stated in the OP which you apparently skipped the top part of, I was being idiotic, this has already been pointed out to me, and I have already admitted my mistake, I would appreciate if you would cease pointing out something that has long been taken care of
Didnt't read, LOL Nothing more to say there...
nah while i would agree on some of the points with Sensor Analysis.... i can't take this guys seriously because of the first amendment stuff....
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Sorry but it is people like me who are fighting for EVERY PERSON ON THIS ******NED PLANET'S RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH BY FIGHTING CENSORSHIP
Oh you mean, like I said, someone who is fighting to kill censorship and oppressive governments?
... Not touching that one
sadly, or else we wouldn't have Obummer as president, and we wouldn't STILL be in Iraq, and we would have NEVER had that issue with Russia recently...
good for you, keep up the good work and maybe you'll get a gold star! -sarcasm-
I do have a god given right to free speech, and part of having free speech is using it where and how I choose, sorry but this last one was just plain stupid...
I had snapped, not because of the SA stuff, that was just the last straw, but seriously sometimes you have to look past the idiot mistakes someone makes and see what ever else they are actually trying to say
When an ability requires a toggle it can no longer be put on a spacebar macro, and requires a few synapses worth of conscious effort to operate.
That said, I love this thread, it reaffirms my faith in humanity. I love it just as I love the new Sensor Analysis and the kit revamp.