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kitsune424kitsune424 Member Posts: 232 Arc User
I am NOT deleting anything from the original post, however I wanted to say, if you are just joining us, the idiocy is actually my own, but not because I am an idiot, rather because I have had a completely stressful couple of weeks and this topic was actually the breaking point where it was too much, and as such I apologize for any rules broken on behalf of everyone who posted in this thread

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I will reiterate, this post is protected under the First Amendment as the server is on US soil, I will ignore the censoring of cuss words however because there ARE children that play this game

I want to know what sort of ****ed up--no other way to describe it--drugs your development team were on when they thought up that TRIBBLE? Because they REALLY need to freaking share. Oh sure now we can target our friends and increase the healing, but that is ONE, count it, ONE benefit out of 3 drawbacks two of which could have been fixed in the first place.

here are the drawbacks

one; if you have it toggled you automatically enter combat even if it targets an ally

two; once your target is destroyed, or you switch targets it toggles off(seriously? if I wanted this bull I would have played a TAC and used Fire on my mark!)

and three; its TOGGLEABLE! WHICH IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN!!

OK I admit I can live with the third drawback, but seriously? Why not set it up so you can toggle it on and it stays on until you shut it off, or even until you change maps? Also if you target an ally and toggle it DON'T LET IT PUT YOU INTO RED ALERT! I mean seriously, it's the same thought process.

OK Seriously, I can live with the kit revamp, I can get over the STEALING--don't you ****ING say it wasn't cause it was!--of our rep skills, but this? This was a NEEDLESS change. One that does NOTHING except make things easier for PVPers

Oh and btw if I find out this was because of some ****ers who PVP's I will be pissed, this is NOT what I signed up for, Sorry PVPers, I don't give a **** whether or not you like what us PVEer use, your part of the game is OPTIONAL and should NEVER have such a big part of the ******ned decisions in what happen to the game
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I don't think you know how the constitution works, also WTF does it have to do with what you're whining about?


    I don't think the devs are the ones on drugs at this moment:confused:
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  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I'll just leave this right here:

    http://xkcd.com/1357/
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    sumghai wrote: »
    I'll just leave this right here:

    http://xkcd.com/1357/

    There's an XKCD for everything.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    There's an XKCD for everything.

    it's the hallmark of the internet
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  • kitsune424kitsune424 Member Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    sumghai wrote: »
    I'll just leave this right here:

    http://xkcd.com/1357/

    Actually the Supreme court ruled that your rights DO NOT stop at the door, or in this case the sign in, of a company. I also never said there wouldn't be consequences, but I am still well within my God Given right to voice my opinion, and any form of censorship(cuss words notwithstanding) is untolerable.

    Also
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    kitsune424 wrote: »
    Actually the Supreme court ruled that your rights DO NOT stop at the door, or in this case the sign in, of a company

    You really want to stick to your guns on this one? Okay.

    Cryptic's servers are protected speech. They own the servers, not the government. They can pick and choose what speech goes on the servers they own and pay upkeep on, even if it's from other people who aren't them. And they can choose to censor their own speech to their heart's desire.

    And it's protected by the very 1st Amendment you seem to have weird ideas about.

    You aren't being arrested by the government for what you're saying on someone's privately-owned server. Your rights are not only not in jeopardy, but they have absolutely nothing to do with anything your OP is about.
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  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It's old news. There have already been threads about it and Cryptic aren't in a rush to change it again, or we'd have seen it already.

    Also the chance this thread will get locked is still there regardless of spouting the law. You can't cram a post with bad language, insults and trolling material and expect to hide behind amendments. That is not how it works.

    If the OP insists on taking pills, I would suggest either a chill pill or a happy pill next time.
  • grimrak1grimrak1 Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    kitsune424 wrote: »
    I will reiterate, this post is protected under the First Amendment as the server is on US soil, I will ignore the censoring of cuss words however because there ARE children that play this game

    Americans are hilarious.
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    But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    coupaholic wrote: »
    I would suggest either a chill pill or a happy pill next time.

    Is it too much to ask for both?
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  • psycholandlordpsycholandlord Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    kitsune424 wrote: »
    I will reiterate, this post is protected under the First Amendment as the server is on US soil, I will ignore the censoring of cuss words however because there ARE children that play this game

    Oh thank god you guys, he thought of the children.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    Americans are hilarious.

    This person does not speak for the majority of us.
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  • grimrak1grimrak1 Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    This person does not speak for the majority of us.

    You're right, and you and the rest of your sane countrymen have my apologies.
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    But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    You're right, and you and the rest of your sane countrymen have my apologies.

    And you have our apologies that you have to put up with fellow Americans like that.
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  • jestersagejestersage Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    since PWE is Chinese, are we even certain the forum stuff is on US? Never assume on internet.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jestersage wrote: »
    since PWE is Chinese, are we even certain the forum stuff is on US? Never assume on internet.

    Are we even sure there is an internet? Computers have gotten really advanced, and there are a lot of smoke and mirrors people put on the hard drives of the world.
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  • psycholandlordpsycholandlord Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jestersage wrote: »
    since PWE is Chinese, are we even certain the forum stuff is on US? Never assume on internet.

    Only America has servers you idiot, god. Don't believe liberal propaganda that says otherwise.
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  • kitsune424kitsune424 Member Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    This person does not speak for the majority of us.
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    You're right, and you and the rest of your sane countrymen have my apologies.
    iconians wrote: »
    And you have our apologies that you have to put up with fellow Americans like that.

    Sorry to disappoint but I find censorship in GENERAL to be immoral so you can bite me
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  • psycholandlordpsycholandlord Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    kitsune424 wrote: »
    Sorry to disappoint but I find censorship in GENERAL to be immoral so you can bite me

    I just want you to know that you have absolutely no idea how any of the first amendment works and should stop posting.
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  • kitsune424kitsune424 Member Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Only America has servers you idiot, god. Don't believe liberal propaganda that says otherwise.

    not sure if sarcasm or ignorance, probably sarcasm
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    kitsune424 wrote: »
    Sorry to disappoint but I find censorship in GENERAL to be immoral so you can bite me

    Censorship in general can be seen as immoral or unethical, you have my complete agreement on that opinion.
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    Are we even sure there is an internet? Computers have gotten really advanced, and there are a lot of smoke and mirrors people put on the hard drives of the world.

    Something happened to the internet?

    Iconians.


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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    You're hilariously wrong about both the 1st Amendment and the new Sensor Analysis. SA is ******* fantastic now. It sucked so bad before no one knew it did anything. Now it's got a big arrow that says I'M DOING SOMETHING. And it actually is.

    So you've got to push a button now. Cry me a river.
  • jmaster29jmaster29 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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  • kitsune424kitsune424 Member Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I just want you to know that you have absolutely no idea how any of the first amendment works and should stop posting.

    lol no I won't, and even if I, as you say, don't know how the First Amendment works, that does not mean that my opinion on CENSORSHIP changes any, you can not learn the facts if you censor someone's opinion because it does not mesh with yours.

    And Actually I do very well know how the First Amendment of the US Constitution works:

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." - 1st Amendment, Bill of Rights/US Constitution, 1789

    means that Congress can NOT make any law in any form that SUPPORTS OR DISPARAGES the practice of any faith, or hinders the freedom of speech. Nor can Congress make any law that hindering the right of the people to peacefully assemble or petition the government for the redress of grievances.
    We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
  • grimrak1grimrak1 Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    kitsune424 wrote: »
    lol no I won't, and even if I, as you say, don't know how the First Amendment works, that does not mean that my opinion on CENSORSHIP changes any, you can not learn the facts if you censor someone's opinion because it does not mesh with yours.

    And Actually I do very well know how the First Amendment of the US Constitution works:

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." - 1st Amendment, Bill of Rights/US Constitution, 1789

    means that Congress can NOT make any law in any form that SUPPORTS OR DISPARAGES the practice of any faith, or hinders the freedom of speech. Nor can Congress make any law that hindering the right of the people to peacefully assemble or petition the government for the redress of grievances.

    None of this has anything to do with how a private message board is run.
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    But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
  • kitsune424kitsune424 Member Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    You're hilariously wrong about both the 1st Amendment and the new Sensor Analysis. SA is ******* fantastic now. It sucked so bad before no one knew it did anything. Now it's got a big arrow that says I'M DOING SOMETHING. And it actually is.

    So you've got to push a button now. Cry me a river.

    like I said I can get over the toggable part, but I did point out obvious flaws in my rant so if this was the ONLY thing you picked up you did not even read it and are wasting my time
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  • psycholandlordpsycholandlord Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    kitsune424 wrote: »
    lol no I won't, and even if I, as you say, don't know how the First Amendment works, that does not mean that my opinion on CENSORSHIP changes any, you can not learn the facts if you censor someone's opinion because it does not mesh with yours.

    And Actually I do very well know how the First Amendment of the US Constitution works:

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." - 1st Amendment, Bill of Rights/US Constitution, 1789

    means that Congress can NOT make any law in any form that SUPPORTS OR DISPARAGES the practice of any faith, or hinders the freedom of speech. Nor can Congress make any law that hindering the right of the people to peacefully assemble or petition the government for the redress of grievances.


    Yes and that quote that you are having difficulty comprehending totally applies to to a videogame forum because
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  • kitsune424kitsune424 Member Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    None of this has anything to do with how a private message board is run.

    All I am going to say is this:
    kitsune424 wrote: »
    lol no I won't, and even if I, as you say, don't know how the First Amendment works, that does not mean that my opinion on CENSORSHIP changes any, you can not learn the facts if you censor someone's opinion because it does not mesh with yours.
    We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    kitsune424 wrote: »
    lol no I won't, and even if I, as you say, don't know how the First Amendment works, that does not mean that my opinion on CENSORSHIP changes any, you can not learn the facts if you censor someone's opinion because it does not mesh with yours.

    And Actually I do very well know how the First Amendment of the US Constitution works:

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." - 1st Amendment, Bill of Rights/US Constitution, 1789

    means that Congress can NOT make any law in any form that SUPPORTS OR DISPARAGES the practice of any faith, or hinders the freedom of speech. Nor can Congress make any law that hindering the right of the people to peacefully assemble or petition the government for the redress of grievances.

    While it both starts with C, Cryptic isn't Congress. (And for the record, neither is China. And Perfect World Entertainment doesn't even start with C).
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  • kitsune424kitsune424 Member Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Yes and that quote that you are having difficulty comprehending totally applies to to a videogame forum because

    first off, how am I not comprehending the First Amendment? I mean sure I may have been pissy and made an idiot comment with the OP, but as they say with anger, intelligence it the first to go.

    and as for how it applies to the video game, I shall reiterate what I just said not a moment ago, if you did not read my post, then you are wasting my time
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