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Jem'Hadar Attack Ship or Undine Nicor Bio-Warship?
krisroberts
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Hey guys I'm lucky enough to have both of these unopened and I'm wondering which one to keep and which one to sell on. I know the Bug is a little beast but I'm also keen to see what you guys think of the new Undine ship and how you think it stacks up with the Bug?
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Lol helpful as usual the old forms. I do own a lot of ships from all 3 factions but the majority of them are God awful.
Or, you could sell the Undine , buy a JHDC, claim the JHAS and have one of the top 2 carrier pets and probably the best carrier in game.
Nicor. It's the best escort atm in my opinon, and so much cheaper too. So sell the JHAS, and use the nicor
If the galactic races can do that, I have only one thing to say to the Iconians.
Run. While you still can.
That being said, the bugship has a smoother look to it, and very decent performance. There is also the added bonus as was mentioned if you get a JHDC.
With my Romulan characters I use only Warbirds. It's part of the whole thing about being Romulan, and frankly the Romulans got shafted enough already. My KDF characters similarly fly mostly Klingon ships, though I have an Obelisk (I look on it as a trophy of battle). I will admit my feds are rather S'Golth heavy, but I just like the design aesthetics of it.
Final point is this. As far as the whole issue of enabling cryptic, that is going to happen no matter what people do. Have fun. Isn't that the whole point of a game?
Yes, but the least we can do is encourage Cryptic to do things that make ****ing sense.
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Flying an undine ship is no different than flying an elachi ship....
At least the latter is an actual manually piloted technological vessel from the correct plane of existence.
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Oh and what doesn't make sense, other than Ker'rat still exisiting
The jhas is quite nice but many ship have caught up to its epicness...
Could also sell the nicer and get a Jem dread. Then you have epic pets and the most prestigious combo in game.
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
the bug. It kind of depends on whether you want to pvp with that toon. If you go for PVE I would say
nicor, for PvP sell both and buy yourself a hunter because they kick the JHAS's butt
The JHAS has one of the worst BOFF layouts in the game, it's only a rare ship not a great ship.
Nicor has an awesome BOFF layout, with so many more options.
The Nicor when last I saw, was selling for 200 million. The Dromias was in the 80 to 90 million range.
That was last night though. Did the market on them collapse today? I've not been online today yet.
Also, one day you might be sorry and want to fly a JHAS, but it will cost you 500 million EC and you might not be able to get one. I don't think the Nicor will come even near that anytime in terms of price or supply.
P.S. Nice avatar. I wish we had playable Denobulan species!
id unload both those ships and grab a hirogen hunter. no, i would grab a few hirogen hunters and even run them on alts. they really are 'all that and more'.
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Or just do whatever. I think I'm going to try and make a Nicor A2B beamscort work for PvP sometime in June.
Even if I were to get a Nicor today, I would sell it and wait for the price to come down. No ship is worth more than 100 million ec.
I have both JHAS and Nicor Bio-ship unboxed. Having flown both, the Nicor is my new favorite ship. Some of its key features are
-8 weapon slots
-5 tac console slots
-unique BOFF layout with 1 univ. Lt.Cmdr, 1 Lt.Engi, 1 Cmdr Tac, 1 Lt.Cmdr Sci. This allows for some attack skill combinations no other ship can perform (e.g., BO3 + TS3 + GW1 + APO3)
As of last night, the Nicor was still going for 200mil.
BTW, the new fluidic AP weapons are crazy-good against escorts
My vote for best answer
The JHAS drops very rarely during specified times of the year, thus why the price for that ship is always 400-500mil. For a cannon build escort its the best, because the federation fleet defiant has a useless tactical ensign.
The choice really comes down to having a super rare ship or having a lot of energy credits. If you sell the JHAS and you will be able to buy 4-5 undine nicor warships in the coming weeks.
In PvE I like the Nicor a lot along with the new antiproton weapons and Borg set, it looks very sick and is fun to fly with, dmg wise is ok.
The uni console looks sweet when it charges up but the dmg output I find it way weaker compaired to Spinal Lance or Thalaron Pulse.
I have no clue about the consoles 2 piece bonus as I don't own the cruiser and not planning to get 1 either.
Sell the bug, that will let you buy 3-5 other ships, if you so desire.
****NOTE****
Transfer your toon to Tribble. Open both there and test them out. Using them on Tribble will not affect your unopened boxes on Holodeck. Hell, transfer your toon a few times and have extra bug boxes in case you want to try them on other toons. Just put in your Account Bank on Tribble...
It isn't that I don't want a chance at either, just that I think if I had those, I would either keep them, or give them to a close friend in trade for backup when called:D
Have fun, and enabling Cryptic is a poor excuse for crudding on someone else's fun.
The market has gone from 200 m yesterday to the 150s today.
I'd expect with my friends it should hit 100-120 by the weekend if not lower.
The hirogen is a better ship for half the price.
BUt they did.
They said that the Undine ships have been captured and been reconfigured to be used by human crews.
Why do you say that's impossible?
There are other telepathic races in the galaxy, so they could serve as a starting point. Also, we know that Starfleet has been working with organic technology, like Bioneural gelpacks.
The nanites that some teenage boy on the Enterprise accidentally turned into a sapient race were used in medicine already before they encountered Borg nanites.
BOrg nanintes in turn were succesfully modified on a ship far away from any support with a reduced crew and a computer hologram to disable ships from Species 8472.
An officer from a frontier space station managed to find the cure for a debilitating disease, alone, without the help of 24th century tech, that had threatened an entire planet. At some other point, he managed to use positronic implants to keep a patient with severe brain damage alive.
Some Ferengi managed to develop cloaked, self-replicating mines and thus helped secure the Bajoran wormhole. Didn't another Ferengi help develop metaphasic shields?
This is the type of people that exist in the Alpha Quadrant, and the type of technological understanding available there. A crack team of scientists and researchers figuring out some sophisticated biotech and modifying it for our purposes?
Also, there is a lot of focus always on how biological systems are so utterly different then technological, but in the end, they still are governed by the same laws of physics, and the fundamental structure of matter is no different. At the level of technology common in Star Trek, you can bet that stuff needs to be regularly understood on an atomic level, and once you have the tools to more or less casually interact with matter on that level, the difference between organic and technological items is not that different. You will certainly need highly qualified people and people willing to work multi-discipinlary, but why not?
If a TNG story would have hinged on the crew's ability to make an organic ship work, do you think they would have failed?
PErsonally, for me, my disbelief suspenders were stretched thin when we got the first non-faction ship. Was it the Jem'Hardar? It was bad on multiple levels. Lockboxes. Flying a non-faction ship permanently. But in the end, while I don't believe that this would ever happen or should have happened, it didn't ruin the game for me, and now any other addition of ships is just the logical extension. But the people were going after these ships, so it seems the majority wins here, and anyone turning around suddenly "OH no, this goes too far" is far too late. He would have needed to have made his stand back then.
Keep that bull**** cynicism at the door, this is ******n sci-fi!
Thank you for this. It made me chuckle out loud at work
I only fly Fed ships as well
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