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Why do we have to kill it?

stormf0stormf0 Member Posts: 39 Arc User
edited April 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Does it bother anyone else that the Crystaline Catastrophe mission asks us to kill the Crystaline Entity? Wouldn't evacuating the colony be more feasible, or attempting communication? Per Silicon Avatar, Picard would not approve of its destruction, nor would the colonists of Omicron Theta. Seems un-treklike to me. #PeacefulCoexistence?
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Well.... if you can figure out how to ask it to go away.... Which kinda didn't work in the TV show. Sure they figured out how to talk to it, but not how to get it to do what they wanted.
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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I believe the Tholians are somehow coercing it, as they believe that the entity is a god-like being. Starfleet tried to make peaceful contact, but due to the Tholians, the entity attacked the Starfleet ships. The mission is basically the last option; destroy the entity before it destroys more worlds and takes more lives.

    I would pull up the dev blog that had more background story to it, but the ARC games transition kind of screwed up those past entries. :confused:

    EDIT: http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=859041

    Here is the original website version, if you can somehow bypass the ARC games redirect... :P
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    We come in peace. Shoot to kill. Shoot to kill.

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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    tell it to stop eating people
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    hypl wrote: »
    I would pull up the dev blog that had more background story to it, but the ARC games transition kind of screwed up those past entries. :confused:

    EDIT: http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=859041

    Here is the original website version, if you can somehow bypass the ARC games redirect... :P

    I've been updating a number of links to old devblogs over on Memory Beta and one trick I've learned is to type "site:arcgames.com <search terms>" into Google. Ditto anytime I need to find something here on the forums, because Google just works better.

    Here's the new location: http://community.arcgames.com/en/news/star-trek-online/detail/1013770-season-7-dev-blog-_43
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  • dongemaharudongemaharu Member Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    It's not a bad idea. But there should be consequences if you fail. Like while you're playing with frequencies, it sucker punches you, flies off to the colony and eats millions of people. You want to play nice? Assume the risk.
  • senatorvreenaksenatorvreenak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Thing is we are just in for the final act.
    By the time the fleet is sent in to put it down, all other efforts have failed and all options have been exhausted.
    We are the last resort.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,673 Community Moderator
    edited April 2014
    Yes... we were sent to Cancel the Apocalypse.
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  • jslynjslyn Member Posts: 1,790 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    It is Raman, not Varelse. :mad:
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 2,624 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    stormf0 wrote: »
    Does it bother anyone else that the Crystaline Catastrophe mission asks us to kill the Crystaline Entity? Wouldn't evacuating the colony be more feasible, or attempting communication? Per Silicon Avatar, Picard would not approve of its destruction, nor would the colonists of Omicron Theta. Seems un-treklike to me. #PeacefulCoexistence?

    Are you assuming we are all feds or something?

    Kill em all and take the loot.
  • rgzarcherrgzarcher Member Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    stormf0 wrote: »
    Does it bother anyone else that the Crystaline Catastrophe mission asks us to kill the Crystaline Entity? Wouldn't evacuating the colony be more feasible, or attempting communication? Per Silicon Avatar, Picard would not approve of its destruction, nor would the colonists of Omicron Theta. Seems un-treklike to me. #PeacefulCoexistence?

    Actually if you take the time to read through all the dialog options from your briefing when the mission starts, they flat out TELL you that they tried several times to communicate with it the way they did in TNG, but all it did was destroy the ships that attempted communication and become more aggressive.

    Still nice to see there are people that think like a Trekker, just next time make sure you read your briefing material first ;)
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    No... It's pink. It must die.
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  • stormf0stormf0 Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    rgzarcher wrote: »
    Actually if you take the time to read through all the dialog options from your briefing when the mission starts, they flat out TELL you that they tried several times to communicate with it the way they did in TNG, but all it did was destroy the ships that attempted communication and become more aggressive.

    Still nice to see there are people that think like a Trekker, just next time make sure you read your briefing material first ;)

    You mean those PADDs from the desk Admirals actually have useful information in them? :D Thanks for the clarifications, everyone. :)
  • darthwoodarthwoo Member Posts: 371 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    markhawkman wrote: »
    Well.... if you can figure out how to ask it to go away.... Which kinda didn't work in the TV show. Sure they figured out how to talk to it, but not how to get it to do what they wanted.

    It didn't work in the show because they never got the chance to try. Kila Marr killed it before they ever attempted any meaningful communication beyond the first hello.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    darthwoo wrote: »
    It didn't work in the show because they never got the chance to try. Kila Marr killed it before they ever attempted any meaningful communication beyond the first hello.
    Incorrect. Lore was able to talk to it... we don't know what he said, but he was able to communicate with it.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    markhawkman wrote: »
    Incorrect. Lore was able to talk to it... we don't know what he said, but he was able to communicate with it.

    Knowing Lore, something to the effect of "Kill these guys and I'll give you a cookie."
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  • jslynjslyn Member Posts: 1,790 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    Knowing Lore, something to the effect of "Kill these guys and I'll give you a cookie."



    "Kill these guys; they ARE the cookie."
  • stelakkhstelakkh Member Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    stormf0 wrote: »
    Does it bother anyone else that the Crystaline Catastrophe mission asks us to kill the Crystaline Entity? Wouldn't evacuating the colony be more feasible, or attempting communication? Per Silicon Avatar, Picard would not approve of its destruction, nor would the colonists of Omicron Theta. Seems un-treklike to me. #PeacefulCoexistence?

    Yep, it sure does.

    Since in the Next Gen episode "Silicon Avatar" we discover that it IS possible to communicate with the Crystalline Entity, the first attempt should in fact be at communication. The only reason it didn't work in that episdoe is that Dr. Marr was obsessed with revenge.

    As has been pointed out, we also know that Lore spoke to it in the 1st season.

    It also bothers me that the Crystalline Entity is capable of doing any damage to me at all - since it was established in the first season of TNG that a starship's shields (at least a Galaxy class starship's shields) are of sufficent strength to protect the ship and crew relatively indefinitely.

    So, why can't we attempt to communicate with it, and why is it able to damage our shields, hull and crew?

    Because Cryptic has never cared about the history of anything in the universe they're sullying.

    As I've said on these forums before, if someone askes why this game has so many canon mistakes, bad choices, idiotic decisions, horrible coding, hackneyed writing and just plain lack of any real passion for Star Trek, the best answer I can give is simply, "Because Cryptic."

    In our fleet, "Because Cryptic" has become synonymous with "It's garbage. That's why."

    By the way? That whole thing about the CE becoming aggressive and destroying ships that have tried to communicate with it? That's complete and utter Cryptic-made-up BS.

    It didn't try to destroy the Enterprise in "Silicon Avatar." It didn't try to destroy the Enterprise when Lore spoke to it. In fact, as I've already pointed out, it was INCAPABLE of destroying a starship.

    So again, Because Cryptic.
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  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Without conflict, there is no "game".
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  • nileight1nileight1 Member Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    This CE is obviously a more powerful member of its species than the one encountered before.
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