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Why don't we have Mk XII [purple] "Breen Transphasic Cluster Bombs"?
section31agent
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I can't help but see all the uber beam weapons and cannons fleet or lockbox variety. It would be nice to see upgrades to "The Breen Transphasic Cluster Bomb".
I would like to see the following options considered:
Wide Angle 180 degrees
Let it be affected by High Yield Torpedo or Torpedo Spread bridge officer abilities
Example: HYT3 would give it better shield penetration say 75%
Example:Torp Spread 3 would produce 1 bomb per target in arc up to 3 bombs
Rapid Reload and Crit Bonus would be nice
The ability to load different mines into it could be interesting
How about a Projectile Weapons Doff Officer that increases Shield Penetration by 30%
What about a cloak for the Breen Bomb sort of like the fabled "Torp Of Doom" used by Borg?
How about a secondary effect knocking out systems for 3 seconds unless cleared by engineering team?
Perhaps it could be affected by the system targeting [Wep,Sheilds,Eng,Aux], to knock a system off line as a bonus
Since last month I have noticed PVE ships shooting down my Bombs. They target it over me. So give me something worthy of that kind of attention.
And before detractors start screaming I am not suggesting all of the above be put on one Bomb. What I am asking is for a varied type of different Bombs. Offer them in a Breen Lock Box or something
I would like to see the following options considered:
Wide Angle 180 degrees
Let it be affected by High Yield Torpedo or Torpedo Spread bridge officer abilities
Example: HYT3 would give it better shield penetration say 75%
Example:Torp Spread 3 would produce 1 bomb per target in arc up to 3 bombs
Rapid Reload and Crit Bonus would be nice
The ability to load different mines into it could be interesting
How about a Projectile Weapons Doff Officer that increases Shield Penetration by 30%
What about a cloak for the Breen Bomb sort of like the fabled "Torp Of Doom" used by Borg?
How about a secondary effect knocking out systems for 3 seconds unless cleared by engineering team?
Perhaps it could be affected by the system targeting [Wep,Sheilds,Eng,Aux], to knock a system off line as a bonus
Since last month I have noticed PVE ships shooting down my Bombs. They target it over me. So give me something worthy of that kind of attention.
And before detractors start screaming I am not suggesting all of the above be put on one Bomb. What I am asking is for a varied type of different Bombs. Offer them in a Breen Lock Box or something
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Perhaps if you had all 4 pieces of it [Warp Drive] it could give you the ability to upgrade the Breen Bomb.:D
I must admit the cloak on Bomb piques my interest "Torp of Doom" you can't see it to shoot it down.
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I agree.
I thought they would be upgrading all the NPC's with more hull and more aggressive tactics to make our overpowered ships less overpowered (and have fights last longer). But if that's not the case, then season 9 will be a massive let down. I was also hoping that they'd upgrade the UI and the older ships from (2010 - 2012) instead of constantly making new shiny ships that are more over powered than the previous months ship.
Funny you say that, cause the upgrade part is something you will not get. New, more OP toys? Lots of those. Updating old stuff (especially old free stuff) would decrease want for shiny new toys that cost time/dil/zen. The reason that new ships are more powerful than old ones is to ensure that they will sell good. Old stuff? It had it's 5 minutes already.
And don't use recent Galaxy pack/revamp/update as an example - it was an experiment and STO's movers and shakers already know how it turned out.
Next thing is mirror versions of old (non-updated) cstore ships. Why? Almost noone is buying them anymore, and adding new mirror ones will boost key sales a bit.
As for Breen cluster torp, is powerful enough as it is. If it gets shot down, you are not using it right (note that FAWing or gravwelling said torp is not always a deliberate tactic, because all targetable torps are fragile). Any boosts OP proposed are really insanely overpowered. Imagine a B'rel torper using the proposed doff. Thats just one example.
Oh, by the way, Borg does not have cloaked torps. Its your PC that fails to display a costume.
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The Torp of Doom was not a fable.....It was very very real....
Ever had a tank specced Odyssey with full shields and health die instantly?
I thought WoW's forums had angry elitist snobs, but I never could have imagined the level STO forums has.
Back on topic... the breen set does need a balance pass to bring it up to par with some of the other sets.
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The breen cluster torp I find works fine as is, its a high risk/reward weapon. Sometimes you fire and fail, sometimes you fire and devastate.
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
Except Voth AP doesn't have any kind of extra penetration, it never had higher penetration really...they decided when they changed mines to 80% the cluster would stay the same.
It's a specialty weapon...it's marked infinity...pretty much anything specialty is blue...
Have to agree with this sentiment...; it already has staggering damage potential vs an unshielded hull(just 2 days ago on a system patrol, I had one[on my Fleet Nebula Retrofit] take a small-medium ship from %70 hull to BOOM when all 10 mines critical'd)...even larger ships feel the pain from this little monster....
...but, yeah, I would LOVE to be able to put different mine-types in there....
If Cryptic ever becomes so desperate that they look to ideas such as yours to bring in financing from the player base that will be the sign that "the servers are shutting down".
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I've had all 10 Crit before as well. It is a sight to behold those giant yellow numbers all above 2,500 :eek: My Jem Dreadnought and Voth flight deck both have the Breen Transphasic + Hargh'Peng on them (I never leave a dry dock without those two).
Whats the slowdown of giving up an upgrade path to buff these sets? Why not make it a 4-pc set and add the transphasic cluster and/or rapid-fire transphasic torp launcher as part of it? MUST we stick to the 'Weapon Set" and "Armor/Shield/Core/Deflector" -set model?
It is hard to imagine how much better they could make the Breen Cluster.
I have Romulan crit bonuses and lots of torpedo slots for torpedos plus fore/aft Breen Clusters.
It's already nasty as it is and all easily obtainable n00b gear. I dont even have a fleet Tvaro.
In my sci B'rel, it is already nasty. Breen set, transphasic consoles, 15% EBC bonus, 6% for 4 Nausicaans, plus the rule 62 console. If i get flanking? BOOM! Mini-Genesis device
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Not only that, its a GREAT weapon to slot in any ship, specially in ships with lower number of weapon slots. It compensates the lack of dps really well.
And other great thing is, as far as i noticed, it can be buffed with some skills xD, like the scattered field of a science captain
So, the only thing to improve will be the MKXII, more than that.. no please. Or we will se so many "plz nerf it" right away.
There was a "Torp of Doom" I personally have seen all five ships on a team destroyed at the same exact moment by the invisible weapon. I do not believe it was a problem with my PC or graphics card. What I do believe was it was a Dev tool designed to slow down the pace of efficient teams who were making a mockery of the Infected mission.
This reasoning follows the same tact they took when they "Upgraded" the Borg in the ground missions. Tac Drones running and shooting through soft walls became the new normal. So them doing something similar in space was only a matter of time.
Now as far as an upgrade to the Breen Bomb I like the idea of the rapid reload. This would be nice to cut down reload time to 10 seconds. People who cry about it apparently don't know about the impulse capicator or evasive manouvers. Heck even the point defense module or the bio neural warhead can take care of blasting a breen torp. FAW and other torps work against it too.
Perhaps there should be a vote on the list of things possible for improvement. Let the fans decide what they want a MkXII Purple version to do.
And while the devs are at it, a small Lobi version bump to the items that carry the Breen set bonuses would be nice too, please (not the bonuses themselves, but just the shield, engine and deflector basics).
Just a smidge, equivalent to the upgrade for other sets that have Lobi bump versions - at the moment, the basic stats on the Breen units are so crappy (comparatively) that you have to sacrifice a bit too much to get the bonuses if you're flying grown-up ships. It would be nice to have versions that are just under, or almost par with, the stuff available from rep (as per the stated design intention for the upgrades to the Jem Hadar sets).
1.Wide Angle 180 degrees
2.Let it be affected by High Yield Torpedo or Torpedo Spread bridge officer abilities
Example: HYT3 would give it better shield penetration say 75%
Example:Torp Spread 3 would produce 1 bomb per target in arc up to 3 bombs
3.Rapid Reload and Crit Bonus would be nice
4.The ability to load different mines into it could be interesting
5.How about a Projectile Weapons Doff Officer that increases Shield Penetration by 30%
6.What about a cloak for the Breen Bomb sort of like the fabled "Torp Of Doom" used by Borg?
7.How about a secondary effect knocking out systems for 3 seconds unless cleared by engineering team?
8.Perhaps it could be affected by the system targeting [Wep,Sheilds,Eng,Aux], to knock a system off line as a bonus