I see many more complaints from people not belonging to our fleet who have been kicked for varying reasons. Also personal issues between someone and our fleet can gladly be brought up with our representative and public affairs official Nbreeki.
As to disturbing roleplay, the only roleplay we have a problem with is public ERP. If you were caught engaged in that and fumigated as a result, perhaps you should have had the decency to withdraw to a private map.
Edit: snipped. I have to agree with you on the public ERP thing.
Tells and teamchat exist, guys. If you want to cybersext your BF/GF, do it where the rest of us don't have to see you, please.
Okay folks, I can understand why certain fleets may have issues with this project and vise versa.
THAT SAID, this is NOT the place to name those fleets, or discuss trolling issues about said fleets.
Calling anyone a troll is against the PWE rules and policies and as such, as some have been doing it I'd highly suggest you edit your own posts before a moderator does...
(As in i'm giving everyone a chance to clean up their post if they are flaming/trolling or naming and shaming before I do it).
Now back to the conversation without the above violations in rules thanks
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I see many more complaints from people not belonging to our fleet who have been kicked for varying reasons. Also personal issues between someone and our fleet can gladly be brought up with our representative and public affairs official Nbreeki.
As to disturbing roleplay, the only roleplay we have a problem with is public ERP. If you were caught engaged in that and fumigated as a result, perhaps you should have had the decency to withdraw to a private map.
The 26th Fleet, to my knowledge, has a zero tolerance policy for ERP as they are, in fact, a PG-13 community. I can't imagine why you'd suggest such a thing.
The 26th Fleet, to my knowledge, has a zero tolerance policy for ERP as they are, in fact, a PG-13 community. I can't imagine why you'd suggest such a thing.
Ah, well, review my first post on here. That was what happened in my 3 hours on SB381 the first time. The second time largely was similar but I was kicked expressedly due to my fleet tag after a short period of about 20 minutes during which I said nothing as I was seeing what all was going on still.
Essentially my point is that the group is far from what it claims to be and that unless you RP exactly in the manner whoever is in charge of invites at that moment wants, you will end up kicked, if not simply for wearing clothing he dislikes, having an armor bug or any number of other bizarre reasons as in my case, booting me for roleplaying a science officer assigned to study Khellids and being disinterested in pickup lines.
Unfortunately also most of the roleplay they seem to want is that bland stand at the bar and pass pickup lines back and forth with all the awkwardness of first-time transvestites. The only other roleplay I witnessed was the usual incredibly dull small talk leading up to the former. No thought out campaigns, no settings or stories.
I in no way disagree with the spirit of the project, I merely find that their incessant false advertising of it as open while at the same time discriminating against others destroys that spirit.
Ah, well, review my first post on here. That was what happened in my 3 hours on SB381 the first time. The second time largely was similar but I was kicked expressedly due to my fleet tag after a short period of about 20 minutes during which I said nothing as I was seeing what all was going on still.
Essentially my point is that the group is far from what it claims to be and that unless you RP exactly in the manner whoever is in charge of invites at that moment wants, you will end up kicked, if not simply for wearing clothing he dislikes, having an armor bug or any number of other bizarre reasons as in my case, booting me for roleplaying a science officer assigned to study Khellids and being disinterested in pickup lines.
Unfortunately also most of the roleplay they seem to want is that bland stand at the bar and pass pickup lines back and forth with all the awkwardness of first-time transvestites. The only other roleplay I witnessed was the usual incredibly dull small talk leading up to the former. No thought out campaigns, no settings or stories.
I in no way disagree with the spirit of the project, I merely find that their incessant false advertising of it as open while at the same time discriminating against others destroys that spirit.
I can't speak to the 26th's or OSB's position on your fleet. It's possible your group's reputation (earned or not) has convinced them to avoid any potential issues completely. You'd have to ask them about it. In the end, I'd maintain that while it is an open event, they have the right to refuse entry to anyone they like for any reason, though in my experience they only seem to remove people who are there to: pilfer the fleet vendors, grief the roleplayers with social items, or otherwise disrupt the community gathering.
I've taken part in both of the OSB events and my expectations were met both times, and exceeded during this current event. The purpose of the OSB, at least from my perspective, is not to engage in grand over-reaching plot lines with the wider STO community, but to offer a congenial place for roleplayers to gather outside of the sometimes-unfriendly public spaces like ESD and Drozana (the organized roleplaying community has big issues with some of the roleplay that goes on at the latter).
Your opinion as to the quality and style of the roleplay at SB381 is your own. And I'd offer my own opinion that the roleplay is of a considerably higher quality than one can expect at any of the public social zones. It's a starbase hosting a public gathering; I don't expect much more than bar socializing unless someone seriously organizes a plot to include as many people as are attending this event.
I've felt nothing but welcomed in my participation and the representatives of the 26th Fleet were friendly, helpful, and quick to respond.
Our goal is to maintain an atmosphere conducive to networking and role playing. We're also looking to assist other bases in doing the same thing. By the time we're done, it is our hope to have a number of new bases online to service a variety of RP tastes and expectations. For both factions.
As for allegations of removing players for their attire, I believe there were a few IC security considerations at the time. The player(s) associated with that mind set have since departed for greener pastures.
Anyone who would like assistance or advice on opening their starbase, please feel free to email me in game or on our enjin website. We're human, and perfectly fallible. I'm sure other bases will in time learn from the 26ths experience and be capable of providing a superior community service.
RP'ing always means some sort of restrictions are in place. Depends on what those individuals are trying to accomplish. Personally, I don't have a problem with some guidelines.
ERP in zone chat, I've only seen that a handful of times over the years. I just report them. Drozana used to be a hot spot for it.
Just thought I would drop in to defend the OSB idea but also to support those that have had bad experiences. (I apologise for my grammer using a very awkward phone to write this).
I myself am a leader of a small fleet that is starting to dabble with a OSB setup and from being on sb381 have noticed that some rprs will dismiss others who they feel are boring or don't fit in their ideas.
But this shouldn't put people off as if its a problem then as a community should come together to fix it. So if any rp fleet leaders or rpers in general fancy having a informal convention we would be happy to join to find ways of growing rp for more people.
Feel free to catch me in game at @concor I'm always eager to rp.
The 26th Fleets welcomes RPers to our base as a place of refuge from disruptive environments. Weather it be because there are simply too many people around not RPing, or even if their RP is being disrupted. We offer a safe environment for those who have not been able to RP peacefully, whether they be from people disrupting RP, or simply the lack of RPers in the game.
But like most places we do have rules to uphold the integrity of who we are and what we do. We ask that people not wear weapons to the base because it would be out of the ordinary simply because our security officers are the only ones allowed to have weapons on base. Not even our own Admiral or Ensigns are allowed to wear weapons on station. Once again we offer a safe place for RPers to RP. This means that if you disrupt or break the rules of OSB you will be asked to leave or effectively kicked from the base. This especially includes those who come with the soul purpose of disrupting Roleplay. We have zero tolerance for disruptive RP and will do everything in our power to continue to do so.
If you've been to the base before, and had a bad experience, come check us out again. We had a number of players that departed the fleet, most of them were anti-OSB.
I would just like to add on Corris' post here (one of the 26th Leaders) that a lot of people left the fleet not because they were anti OSD but more of the fact of the way that he and Rhys ran the show and not really allowing others to express an opinion.
If their thoughts and feelings were not that of the Higher rungs of the Fleet they were 'hushed' with them locking forum threads when they didn't like what was being said.
I believe they left to ventures new so that they were not being dictated to and told what they could and could not be allowed to say, do or RP.
I would just like to add on Corris' post here (one of the 26th Leaders) that a lot of people left the fleet not because they were anti OSD but more of the fact of the way that he and Rhys ran the show and not really allowing others to express an opinion.
If their thoughts and feelings were not that of the Higher rungs of the Fleet they were 'hushed' with them locking forum threads when they didn't like what was being said.
I believe they left to ventures new so that they were not being dictated to and told what they could and could not be allowed to say, do or RP.
Yes, that is one of the rumors. Another one is that I eat babies as they kick and scream. With a spork. Folks have the option to come and see for themselves just what sort of a man I am. Or, they can be a lemming and believe everything they hear.
I would just like to add on Corris' post here (one of the 26th Leaders) that a lot of people left the fleet not because they were anti OSD but more of the fact of the way that he and Rhys ran the show and not really allowing others to express an opinion.
If their thoughts and feelings were not that of the Higher rungs of the Fleet they were 'hushed' with them locking forum threads when they didn't like what was being said.
I believe they left to ventures new so that they were not being dictated to and told what they could and could not be allowed to say, do or RP.
I'm afraid this statement is simply not true. I won't say more because this is not the proper place for it but I will say I think it is very low class for you to post this here whoever you are.
Okay folks, I can understand why certain fleets may have issues with this project and vise versa.
THAT SAID, this is NOT the place to name those fleets, or discuss trolling issues about said fleets.
Calling anyone a troll is against the PWE rules and policies and as such, as some have been doing it I'd highly suggest you edit your own posts before a moderator does...
(As in i'm giving everyone a chance to clean up their post if they are flaming/trolling or naming and shaming before I do it).
Now back to the conversation without the above violations in rules thanks
Perhaps if Cryptic or the Gms would actually do something about wayward trolls, people might not be constantly starting things. But nobody ever thinks about that unfortunately.
from my experiences with 26th Fleet and their base i've seen no RP which would constitute what most of you are worried about. I do know that if/when it does crop up the offenders are promptly kicked off the map. I personally have had no issues keeping weapons displayed on my toons and no problems with clothing. I have also opened up my own fleets base when people wish to rp and have no safe place to do so. Since I own my fleet its my choice. My bases hours are a little random due to the lack of membership in my own fleet. I do not allow anything beyond pg13 and adhere to the rules listed on the OSB board. I have been warned about certain users/fleets and as i've told those who warned me, I take each player on a case by case. From what i've seen of the 26th and the other fleet participants they all have adopted this policy as near as I can tell. My fleet base has been opened up primarily late pm early am pst for the late night people who just wanna play around. When i'm not working myself to death in real and have the time I'm happy to sit and play baby sitter on my base map and roleplay myself.
Hope this helps ya out Corren. Nothin but respect for the project from the 12th Cav, as usual, here to help when I can, as I can hoss.
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I would just like to add on Corris' post here (one of the 26th Leaders) that a lot of people left the fleet not because they were anti OSD but more of the fact of the way that he and Rhys ran the show and not really allowing others to express an opinion.
If their thoughts and feelings were not that of the Higher rungs of the Fleet they were 'hushed' with them locking forum threads when they didn't like what was being said.
I believe they left to ventures new so that they were not being dictated to and told what they could and could not be allowed to say, do or RP.
So are you saying that previous 26th Fleet members that left are allowed to join in the OSB if they wanted to see some old friends that didn't leave?
I agree with the members of the 26th posting in here that this is not the place to be drumming up stuff like this. I am personally not a member of the 26th, but I don't think comments like this are constructive to the goal of this program.
I will say that I have only been helped with my roleplay by the members of the 26th fleet since I have been attending the OSB. I know they remove what are known as "trolls" when they start their shinanigans and become a disruption that the Officers of the fleet are being bombarded with PMs.
If you are concerned about being kicked maybe you should reevaluate who and what you do to others before placing blame at the 26th.
I showed up on their strabase a few times and found out that they are elitists. Their members only answer the requests because obviously they have to. I tried to initiate rp with several members and was outright ignore. My suggestion is do not go to their starbase.
I only had MACO/Omega armour in my costume slots so I was told to leave.
I had something similar occur. I just cannot remember the fleet's name.
Since my avatar has a wide variety of uniforms and outfits, the fleet owner was not open to the idea of wearing MACO, Romulan, etc... I left on my own accord. I didn't want to make any waves.
I wish I could remember the fleet's name. grrr...
I think I was wearing the Reman miner's uniform, and the fleet owner wanted me to wear a "Starfleet Uniform". rofl...
I like the idea of playing characters that live on the fringe of society.
I had something similar occur. I just cannot remember the fleet's name.
Since my avatar has a wide variety of uniforms and outfits, the fleet owner was not open to the idea of wearing MACO, Romulan, etc... I left on my own accord. I didn't want to make any waves.
I wish I could remember the fleet's name. grrr...
I think I was wearing the Reman miner's uniform, and the fleet owner wanted me to wear a "Starfleet Uniform". rofl...
I like the idea of playing characters that live on the fringe of society.
i go there often as my romulan mercenary, who often wears armor, so that most certainly is not something they take much note off, on 381, my (many) experiences there tells me they are very laid back and allow almost all kinds of RP except ERP and god-modding (basicly, pretending you are Q :P)
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Tells and teamchat exist, guys. If you want to cybersext your BF/GF, do it where the rest of us don't have to see you, please.
Edit: snipped because Word of Mod.
THAT SAID, this is NOT the place to name those fleets, or discuss trolling issues about said fleets.
Calling anyone a troll is against the PWE rules and policies and as such, as some have been doing it I'd highly suggest you edit your own posts before a moderator does...
(As in i'm giving everyone a chance to clean up their post if they are flaming/trolling or naming and shaming before I do it).
Now back to the conversation without the above violations in rules thanks
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The 26th Fleet, to my knowledge, has a zero tolerance policy for ERP as they are, in fact, a PG-13 community. I can't imagine why you'd suggest such a thing.
Ah, well, review my first post on here. That was what happened in my 3 hours on SB381 the first time. The second time largely was similar but I was kicked expressedly due to my fleet tag after a short period of about 20 minutes during which I said nothing as I was seeing what all was going on still.
Essentially my point is that the group is far from what it claims to be and that unless you RP exactly in the manner whoever is in charge of invites at that moment wants, you will end up kicked, if not simply for wearing clothing he dislikes, having an armor bug or any number of other bizarre reasons as in my case, booting me for roleplaying a science officer assigned to study Khellids and being disinterested in pickup lines.
Unfortunately also most of the roleplay they seem to want is that bland stand at the bar and pass pickup lines back and forth with all the awkwardness of first-time transvestites. The only other roleplay I witnessed was the usual incredibly dull small talk leading up to the former. No thought out campaigns, no settings or stories.
I in no way disagree with the spirit of the project, I merely find that their incessant false advertising of it as open while at the same time discriminating against others destroys that spirit.
I can't speak to the 26th's or OSB's position on your fleet. It's possible your group's reputation (earned or not) has convinced them to avoid any potential issues completely. You'd have to ask them about it. In the end, I'd maintain that while it is an open event, they have the right to refuse entry to anyone they like for any reason, though in my experience they only seem to remove people who are there to: pilfer the fleet vendors, grief the roleplayers with social items, or otherwise disrupt the community gathering.
I've taken part in both of the OSB events and my expectations were met both times, and exceeded during this current event. The purpose of the OSB, at least from my perspective, is not to engage in grand over-reaching plot lines with the wider STO community, but to offer a congenial place for roleplayers to gather outside of the sometimes-unfriendly public spaces like ESD and Drozana (the organized roleplaying community has big issues with some of the roleplay that goes on at the latter).
Your opinion as to the quality and style of the roleplay at SB381 is your own. And I'd offer my own opinion that the roleplay is of a considerably higher quality than one can expect at any of the public social zones. It's a starbase hosting a public gathering; I don't expect much more than bar socializing unless someone seriously organizes a plot to include as many people as are attending this event.
I've felt nothing but welcomed in my participation and the representatives of the 26th Fleet were friendly, helpful, and quick to respond.
It's a shame your experience wasn't up to snuff.
As for allegations of removing players for their attire, I believe there were a few IC security considerations at the time. The player(s) associated with that mind set have since departed for greener pastures.
Anyone who would like assistance or advice on opening their starbase, please feel free to email me in game or on our enjin website. We're human, and perfectly fallible. I'm sure other bases will in time learn from the 26ths experience and be capable of providing a superior community service.
ERP in zone chat, I've only seen that a handful of times over the years. I just report them. Drozana used to be a hot spot for it.
I myself am a leader of a small fleet that is starting to dabble with a OSB setup and from being on sb381 have noticed that some rprs will dismiss others who they feel are boring or don't fit in their ideas.
But this shouldn't put people off as if its a problem then as a community should come together to fix it. So if any rp fleet leaders or rpers in general fancy having a informal convention we would be happy to join to find ways of growing rp for more people.
Feel free to catch me in game at @concor I'm always eager to rp.
But like most places we do have rules to uphold the integrity of who we are and what we do. We ask that people not wear weapons to the base because it would be out of the ordinary simply because our security officers are the only ones allowed to have weapons on base. Not even our own Admiral or Ensigns are allowed to wear weapons on station. Once again we offer a safe place for RPers to RP. This means that if you disrupt or break the rules of OSB you will be asked to leave or effectively kicked from the base. This especially includes those who come with the soul purpose of disrupting Roleplay. We have zero tolerance for disruptive RP and will do everything in our power to continue to do so.
I would just like to add on Corris' post here (one of the 26th Leaders) that a lot of people left the fleet not because they were anti OSD but more of the fact of the way that he and Rhys ran the show and not really allowing others to express an opinion.
If their thoughts and feelings were not that of the Higher rungs of the Fleet they were 'hushed' with them locking forum threads when they didn't like what was being said.
I believe they left to ventures new so that they were not being dictated to and told what they could and could not be allowed to say, do or RP.
Yes, that is one of the rumors. Another one is that I eat babies as they kick and scream. With a spork. Folks have the option to come and see for themselves just what sort of a man I am. Or, they can be a lemming and believe everything they hear.
Up to them.
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I'm afraid this statement is simply not true. I won't say more because this is not the proper place for it but I will say I think it is very low class for you to post this here whoever you are.
So are you saying that previous 26th Fleet members that left are allowed to join in the OSB if they wanted to see some old friends that didn't leave?
Perhaps if Cryptic or the Gms would actually do something about wayward trolls, people might not be constantly starting things. But nobody ever thinks about that unfortunately.
This made my day! LOL:)
Hope this helps ya out Corren. Nothin but respect for the project from the 12th Cav, as usual, here to help when I can, as I can hoss.
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Deep Space 19/USS Montana
I agree with the members of the 26th posting in here that this is not the place to be drumming up stuff like this. I am personally not a member of the 26th, but I don't think comments like this are constructive to the goal of this program.
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If you are concerned about being kicked maybe you should reevaluate who and what you do to others before placing blame at the 26th.
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Since my avatar has a wide variety of uniforms and outfits, the fleet owner was not open to the idea of wearing MACO, Romulan, etc... I left on my own accord. I didn't want to make any waves.
I wish I could remember the fleet's name. grrr...
I think I was wearing the Reman miner's uniform, and the fleet owner wanted me to wear a "Starfleet Uniform". rofl...
I like the idea of playing characters that live on the fringe of society.
i go there often as my romulan mercenary, who often wears armor, so that most certainly is not something they take much note off, on 381, my (many) experiences there tells me they are very laid back and allow almost all kinds of RP except ERP and god-modding (basicly, pretending you are Q :P)