Never understood the animosity some have towards RP and the lengths they'll go to to sabotage it.
This^^^
It's a nice idea, but they need some guys to kick trolls and write up a blacklist, and they need to be able to tell the difference between trolls and people with the KDF costume bug.
I only had MACO/Omega armour in my costume slots so I was told to leave.
Yes its best to stay away from these kinds of people.
There used to be an unwritten rule that they would stay out of our game if they would limit themselves to dancing on tables at drozana. Although I randomly get some message saying something like I am just a lowly federation citizen can I please shine your boots for you warrior.
Yes its best to stay away from these kinds of people.
There used to be an unwritten rule that they would stay out of our game if they would limit themselves to dancing on tables at drozana. Although I randomly get some message saying something like I am just a lowly federation citizen can I please shine your boots for you warrior.
I am a RPer but I think kicking someone out because they had STF armor is extreme....
An Officer of the 26th facind down the wrath of a Romulan Visitor.
An Officer of the 26th attempts to Haggle with the Diamon of Qul's Unique Acquisition Company
*facing
*officer
*officer
*haggle(only names and words that begin a sentence require a capital.)
*Daimon
Thank God I only skimmed. Look, I get it, Cryptic. Your response to the roleplay community is to step back and let the fans cover it. I respect that, mainly because people who don't RP in an MMO look upon it as something ridiculous. Could you have at least proofread something you were going to post as representative of your game before putting it up on your site? Others may call me a grammar and/or spelling TRIBBLE, and they're welcome to that opinion. However, your website is your business, and grammatical/spelling errors are unprofessional.
I remember these guys. They will kick you out if you carry any fleet tags that they do not personally approve of and actively seek confrontations with you to give them cause even if you are peacefully and privately roleplaying with people you know.
They also enjoy handing out kicks based on costumes they do not approve of, any form of weapon being visible (when in the series it was common for officers to be armed at all times during war and even outside each always had his type 1).
Same goes for having any form of pet spawned, even if you tie a story to it.
As to PG-13 roleplay, the only roleplay I saw during my 3 hour stay before a "security ensign" who disliked my fleet tag came over and picked and arguement to kick me was the usual passing bad pickup lines at one another and discussing how "sexy" so and so is over and over. Not ERP, not roleplay, just awkward anime-convention level flirt lines with zero connection to Trek, for 3 full hours. That is a summary of the "approved roleplay".
For those wondering what I was doing, me and my friend Sterie where roleplaying two old shipmates discussing our current assignments and our families back in the Federation. My current assignment was to study Khellids so I had mine out, standing next to me the entire time at a remote corner table.
Essentially, you roleplay as a flirt chatbot and barbie doll for some extremely socially awkward people or you can expect a kick. I personally recommend using your ship interiors if you really want to do any form of serious RP and not put up with softcore ERP between people who have no idea what to do with someone of the opposite gender and an unwritten list of rules longer than the Federation constitution.
I remember these guys. They will kick you out if you carry any fleet tags that they do not personally approve of and actively seek confrontations with you to give them cause even if you are peacefully and privately roleplaying with people you know.
They also enjoy handing out kicks based on costumes they do not approve of, any form of weapon being visible (when in the series it was common for officers to be armed at all times during war and even outside each always had his type 1).
Same goes for having any form of pet spawned, even if you tie a story to it.
As to PG-13 roleplay, the only roleplay I saw during my 3 hour stay before a "security ensign" who disliked my fleet tag came over and picked and arguement to kick me was the usual passing bad pickup lines at one another and discussing how "sexy" so and so is over and over. Not ERP, not roleplay, just awkward anime-convention level flirt lines with zero connection to Trek, for 3 full hours. That is a summary of the "approved roleplay".
For those wondering what I was doing, me and my friend Sterie where roleplaying two old shipmates discussing our current assignments and our families back in the Federation. My current assignment was to study Khellids so I had mine out, standing next to me the entire time at a remote corner table.
Essentially, you roleplay as a flirt chatbot and barbie doll for some extremely socially awkward people or you can expect a kick. I personally recommend using your ship interiors if you really want to do any form of serious RP and not put up with softcore ERP between people who have no idea what to do with someone of the opposite gender and an unwritten list of rules longer than the Federation constitution.
I am a RPer but I think kicking someone out because they had STF armor is extreme....
Wasn't trying to insult anyone but a lot of old KDF players got a distaste for RPers the way they used to behave when they knew the KDF had to spend a lot of time doing spin the wheel to get near lvl 50 before they changed the level progression where we actually had missions to do.
The whole STF armor though seems like its an old RPer that had a dislike for people who actually played the game in its designed way. Is why I stay away from drozana lol. Although I do still get spammed on my doffing runs as I pass by it asking if I need my boots shined.
Wasn't trying to insult anyone but a lot of old KDF players got a distaste for RPers the way they used to behave when they knew the KDF had to spend a lot of time doing spin the wheel to get near lvl 50 before they changed the level progression where we actually had missions to do.
The whole STF armor though seems like its an old RPer that had a dislike for people who actually played the game in its designed way. Is why I stay away from drozana lol. Although I do still get spammed on my doffing runs as I pass by it asking if I need my boots shined.
Drozana is filled with nothing but ERPs and a certain group.
will a professional psychologist be on hand to counsel all these sad cases, how this can manage to be a blog directly on arc and the website is a joke, but good luck to ya's, as they say, each to their own..
I remember these guys. They will kick you out if you carry any fleet tags that they do not personally approve of and actively seek confrontations with you to give them cause even if you are peacefully and privately roleplaying with people you know.
Well, to be fair, some fleet tags have an earned reputation for whipping out the old fire extinguisher and disco ball now and then; as well as a pretty fierce reputation for not being, lets say, friendly with RP as a concept.
Well, to be fair, some fleet tags have an earned reputation for whipping out the old fire extinguisher and disco ball now and then; as well as a pretty fierce reputation for not being, lets say, friendly with RP as a concept.
If I go by the above however it is not an "open" project as it claims to be, but a rather biased one.
Also as said, there was no disco, I was not on fireman's duty that day either, I was simply enjoying the scenery and hoping to see something interesting happen and instead only witnessed several men dressed as women awkwardly flirting with each other.
Anyways, point being that fleet tags do not really speak for the invidual, or shall we perhaps judge by race next? No Klingons because trouble? No Orions because pheremones?
The standard you walk past is the standard you accept.
The OSB Project is entering it's second phase, where other fleets open their bases to the general public. This was never about Praetorian or just the 26th Fleet. This is about the small RP Fleets that form out of the friendships that are made, due to the networking. This is about expanding the horizons of role players.
What we want, is for other bases to open their doors and invite players to RP there. If the house rules of one base are too strict for you, there is another that fits your play style. That's why I'm building the directory. Each base will have its own house rules that they can enforce at their leisure.
If you've been to the base before, and had a bad experience, come check us out again. We had a number of players that departed the fleet, most of them were anti-OSB. Thus far today, the trolls have been few and the RP has been plentiful. Thank you all for your continued support. The 26th Fleet will be back with more community blogs in the future.
....If the house rules of one base are too strict for you, there is another that fits your play style. That's why I'm building the directory. Each base will have its own house rules that they can enforce at their leisure.
If you've been to the base before, and had a bad experience, come check us out again. We had a number of players that departed the fleet, most of them were anti-OSB. Thus far today, the trolls have been few and the RP has been plentiful. Thank you all for your continued support. The 26th Fleet will be back with more community blogs in the future.
They also enjoy handing out kicks based on costumes they do not approve of, any form of weapon being visible (when in the series it was common for officers to be armed at all times during war and even outside each always had his type 1).
If you are worried about controversial outfits, you might as well shut off your monitor. STO is filled with a wide diversity of outfits, which could be considered awkward or offensive. Clothing diversity enriches the game, for they reflect the awesomeness of being unique.
Role playing = to bring a character to life based upon a unique and imaginative perspective.
Booting people for wearing controversial outfits and weapons is dumb.
Its not strict.
Its dumb.
If you are worried about controversial outfits, you might as well shut off your monitor. STO is filled with a wide diversity of outfits, which could be considered award or offensive.
Prohibiting [certain groups] from entering roleplay spaces is perhaps the [last line of defense against people who want to disrupt roleplayers].
Criticizing this fleet--in the manner you have--for having standards with which you disagree is silly. No wait. I'm mistaken...
In short you are trying to justify your "open" project being biased towards elements of the playerbase of which you do not approve while still advertising it as open.
If your intent is to play Barbie and Ken with your friends only, I would advise to stop advertising this as an "open" project.
Should you want an example of truely open projects I suggest looking at the NoP Public Service channel where we cater to the needs and wants even of those who we do not personally approve of.
Also I must agree, 2409 has so many uniforms available and surely civilian attire has also evolved in the years between the movies and game as it has in the past 40 years in the real world, we cannot judge any one character based on their attire. Weapons I already discussed.
In short you are trying to justify your "open" project being biased towards elements of the playerbase of which you do not approve while still advertising it as open.
If your intent is to play Barbie and Ken with your friends only, I would advise to stop advertising this as an "open" project.
Should you want an example of truely open projects I suggest looking at the NoP Public Service channel where we cater to the needs and wants even of those who we do not personally approve of.
Also I must agree, 2409 has so many uniforms available and surely civilian attire has also evolved in the years between the movies and game as it has in the past 40 years in the real world, we cannot judge any one character based on their attire. Weapons I already discussed.
Maybe they should have called it "Open Starbase Project: Except [Groups Who Disrupt Roleplay]." Would that be more palatable?
When I played table-top role playing games, the way we designed our characters was based upon creative expression. Our outfits defined our individuality, profession, and personality. As long as someone could justify something, we didn't care about what the person was wearing.
When I played table-top role playing games, the way we designed our characters was based upon creative expression. Our outfits defined our individuality, profession, and personality. As long as someone could justify something, we didn't care about what the person was wearing.
Just have fun.
Sure. Table top has been the same way for me as well, but you might imagine that things change when your group goes from ~5 to ~100.
Edit - Even still, there are times when a player will show up with a character that just isn't appropriate for the game--be it their personality clashing with the group, their class being over-represented, or what have you. In those cases, the GM will likely advise the player on how to better fit in within the campaign. Sometimes an agreement can't be reached and the player goes on to find a more appropriate game for them. I don't see what the 26th is doing by policing their spaces as any different than a GM ensuring the atmosphere is conducive to what they're trying to accomplish.
Maybe they should have called it "Open Starbase Project: Except that one fleet which goes out of its way to disturb roleplayers." Would that be more palatable?
I see many more complaints from people not belonging to our fleet who have been kicked for varying reasons. Also personal issues between someone and our fleet can gladly be brought up with our representative and public affairs official Nbreeki.
As to disturbing roleplay, the only roleplay we have a problem with is public ERP. If you were caught engaged in that and fumigated as a result, perhaps you should have had the decency to withdraw to a private map.
I see many more complaints from people not belonging to our fleet who have been kicked for varying reasons. Also personal issues between someone and our fleet can gladly be brought up with our representative and public affairs official Nbreeki.
As to disturbing roleplay, the only roleplay we have a problem with is public ERP. If you were caught engaged in that and fumigated as a result, perhaps you should have had the decency to withdraw to a private map.
Sure. Table top has been the same way for me as well, but you might imagine that things change when your group goes from ~5 to ~100.
Edit - Even still, there are times when a player will show up with a character that just isn't appropriate for the game--be it their personality clashing with the group, their class being over-represented, or what have you. In those cases, the GM will likely advise the player on how to better fit in within the campaign. Sometimes an agreement can't be reached and the player goes on to find a more appropriate game for them. I don't see what the 26th is doing by policing their spaces as any different than a GM ensuring the atmosphere is conducive to what they're trying to accomplish.
Please define appropriate in relation to private RP on a common map? If I am not misinterpreting this, you are upset that some players may not attire their characters to your personal tastes. Quite intollerant.
As to our reputation, we as stated will run off ERPers from public zones are such things are simply distasteful. Beyond that we are mainly known for running our public service channel, which admittedly has left many extremely upset as they can no longer fuel their personal greed.
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Sadly, probably true.
Never understood the animosity some have towards RP and the lengths they'll go to to sabotage it.
I only had MACO/Omega armour in my costume slots so I was told to leave.
≡/\≡
Since it's being run through starbases, the admins will probably be around to make sure that nothing happens to ruin the fun.
This^^^
It's a nice idea, but they need some guys to kick trolls and write up a blacklist, and they need to be able to tell the difference between trolls and people with the KDF costume bug.
Yes its best to stay away from these kinds of people.
There used to be an unwritten rule that they would stay out of our game if they would limit themselves to dancing on tables at drozana. Although I randomly get some message saying something like I am just a lowly federation citizen can I please shine your boots for you warrior.
I am a RPer but I think kicking someone out because they had STF armor is extreme....
*officer
*officer
*haggle(only names and words that begin a sentence require a capital.)
*Daimon
Thank God I only skimmed. Look, I get it, Cryptic. Your response to the roleplay community is to step back and let the fans cover it. I respect that, mainly because people who don't RP in an MMO look upon it as something ridiculous. Could you have at least proofread something you were going to post as representative of your game before putting it up on your site? Others may call me a grammar and/or spelling TRIBBLE, and they're welcome to that opinion. However, your website is your business, and grammatical/spelling errors are unprofessional.
They also enjoy handing out kicks based on costumes they do not approve of, any form of weapon being visible (when in the series it was common for officers to be armed at all times during war and even outside each always had his type 1).
Same goes for having any form of pet spawned, even if you tie a story to it.
As to PG-13 roleplay, the only roleplay I saw during my 3 hour stay before a "security ensign" who disliked my fleet tag came over and picked and arguement to kick me was the usual passing bad pickup lines at one another and discussing how "sexy" so and so is over and over. Not ERP, not roleplay, just awkward anime-convention level flirt lines with zero connection to Trek, for 3 full hours. That is a summary of the "approved roleplay".
For those wondering what I was doing, me and my friend Sterie where roleplaying two old shipmates discussing our current assignments and our families back in the Federation. My current assignment was to study Khellids so I had mine out, standing next to me the entire time at a remote corner table.
Essentially, you roleplay as a flirt chatbot and barbie doll for some extremely socially awkward people or you can expect a kick. I personally recommend using your ship interiors if you really want to do any form of serious RP and not put up with softcore ERP between people who have no idea what to do with someone of the opposite gender and an unwritten list of rules longer than the Federation constitution.
*headdesk*
This is just plain hilarious, in a bad way.
Wasn't trying to insult anyone but a lot of old KDF players got a distaste for RPers the way they used to behave when they knew the KDF had to spend a lot of time doing spin the wheel to get near lvl 50 before they changed the level progression where we actually had missions to do.
The whole STF armor though seems like its an old RPer that had a dislike for people who actually played the game in its designed way. Is why I stay away from drozana lol. Although I do still get spammed on my doffing runs as I pass by it asking if I need my boots shined.
Drozana is filled with nothing but ERPs and a certain group.
You're a business listed on NASDAQ, not a lemonade stand.
Well, to be fair, some fleet tags have an earned reputation for whipping out the old fire extinguisher and disco ball now and then; as well as a pretty fierce reputation for not being, lets say, friendly with RP as a concept.
Can't blame people for being head shy.
Think I'd keep a wary eye on too.
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It's the same reason some bars have "No Colors" posted outside. Having biker gangs show up wearing their cut invites confrontation.
And as the blog said, they cater to most roleplayers. Apparently we now know who is not part of the most.
Also as said, there was no disco, I was not on fireman's duty that day either, I was simply enjoying the scenery and hoping to see something interesting happen and instead only witnessed several men dressed as women awkwardly flirting with each other.
Anyways, point being that fleet tags do not really speak for the invidual, or shall we perhaps judge by race next? No Klingons because trouble? No Orions because pheremones?
The OSB Project is entering it's second phase, where other fleets open their bases to the general public. This was never about Praetorian or just the 26th Fleet. This is about the small RP Fleets that form out of the friendships that are made, due to the networking. This is about expanding the horizons of role players.
What we want, is for other bases to open their doors and invite players to RP there. If the house rules of one base are too strict for you, there is another that fits your play style. That's why I'm building the directory. Each base will have its own house rules that they can enforce at their leisure.
If you've been to the base before, and had a bad experience, come check us out again. We had a number of players that departed the fleet, most of them were anti-OSB. Thus far today, the trolls have been few and the RP has been plentiful. Thank you all for your continued support. The 26th Fleet will be back with more community blogs in the future.
Role playing = to bring a character to life based upon a unique and imaginative perspective.
Creative expression must be allowed to breed.
Prohibiting [certain groups] from entering roleplay spaces is perhaps the [last line of defense against people who want to disrupt roleplayers].
Criticizing this fleet--in the manner you have--for having standards with which you disagree is silly. No wait. I'm mistaken...
It's dumb.
If your intent is to play Barbie and Ken with your friends only, I would advise to stop advertising this as an "open" project.
Should you want an example of truely open projects I suggest looking at the NoP Public Service channel where we cater to the needs and wants even of those who we do not personally approve of.
Also I must agree, 2409 has so many uniforms available and surely civilian attire has also evolved in the years between the movies and game as it has in the past 40 years in the real world, we cannot judge any one character based on their attire. Weapons I already discussed.
Maybe they should have called it "Open Starbase Project: Except [Groups Who Disrupt Roleplay]." Would that be more palatable?
Just have fun.
I can agree to a certain extent.
I just do not like to judge a whole fleet, for the actions of a few of its members.
Sure. Table top has been the same way for me as well, but you might imagine that things change when your group goes from ~5 to ~100.
Edit - Even still, there are times when a player will show up with a character that just isn't appropriate for the game--be it their personality clashing with the group, their class being over-represented, or what have you. In those cases, the GM will likely advise the player on how to better fit in within the campaign. Sometimes an agreement can't be reached and the player goes on to find a more appropriate game for them. I don't see what the 26th is doing by policing their spaces as any different than a GM ensuring the atmosphere is conducive to what they're trying to accomplish.
I see many more complaints from people not belonging to our fleet who have been kicked for varying reasons. Also personal issues between someone and our fleet can gladly be brought up with our representative and public affairs official Nbreeki.
As to disturbing roleplay, the only roleplay we have a problem with is public ERP. If you were caught engaged in that and fumigated as a result, perhaps you should have had the decency to withdraw to a private map.
[No one said anything about your fleet].
Please define appropriate in relation to private RP on a common map? If I am not misinterpreting this, you are upset that some players may not attire their characters to your personal tastes. Quite intollerant.
As to our reputation, we as stated will run off ERPers from public zones are such things are simply distasteful. Beyond that we are mainly known for running our public service channel, which admittedly has left many extremely upset as they can no longer fuel their personal greed.