I would like to know who believes that the age of a Classic Cannon/Bo Escort is at an end, meaning it is no longer the premiere damage dealer and no longer King in PvP.
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It hasn't been for a while now. But some skilled teams stretched it out for a bit.
So Ive noticed Im a Bug Tac/scort Captain and I love my ship, but i am being outclassed and out damaged by By Aux2Bat Beam FAW/DEM Wepon Power Overcapped Cruisers which not only Outdamges my JHAS but im having a real hard time taking them down , im not the Best Tac/scort Pilot but i hold my own and I know how to time my buffs, but lately it is no longer effective...
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Today: Multiple ways to dmg delivery, cannonscorts not at the top of the food chain any longer. They still work if embedded in fitting team setup, against teams that has little defense against a classic bug swarm.
I would like to know who believes that the age of a Classic Cannon/Bo Escort is at an end, meaning it is no longer the premiere damage dealer and no longer King in PvP.
Hrmm, you know about the Elachi changes on Tribble...right?
I would like to know who believes that the age of a Classic Cannon/Bo Escort is at an end, meaning it is no longer the premiere damage dealer and no longer King in PvP.
Ill let you find who is the math genious who thinks that 45 degrees weapons should be 100 worse than 250 degrees beams.
Also cannons are not canon (Deep space nice and all star trek movies were in your imagination).Wars are done with exploration ships.
STO is unique in the mmo world thou..The first mmo that is 100% made and designed by roleplayers for roleplayers.
Today: Multiple ways to dmg delivery, cannonscorts not at the top of the food chain any longer. They still work if embedded in fitting team setup, against teams that has little defense against a classic bug swarm.
Multiple as in faw or vape?I don't think people can do that...I mean its way to hard for the average joe :rolleyes:
abrupt damage at the right time gets kills most reliably. unless theres a LOT of faw users, but just 1 or 2 wont really do anything but blow up his own scoreboard numbers.
To the OP yeah Regular DHC/BO escorts are old news but DHC/BO/PB/ISO/Casc Tet escorts are pretty good now.
Agreed Wolverine, and yes i do also use those , but its just that, Pretty good, My JHAS has no less than 8 different Loadouts (Which is still Bugged thanks to Cryptic wonderful quality assurance control) to deal with different opponents...yet....
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Agreed Wolverine, and yes i do also use those , but its just that, Pretty good, My JHAS has no less than 8 different Loadouts (Which is still Bugged thanks to Cryptic wonderful quality assurance control) to deal with different opponents...yet....
The above build has allowed me to dust off the Raptor on the KDF side. I think when the TT split happens the 3 tac raptor may be able to take advantage of the TT split.
Hey I Used to be Captain Data, well I guess I still am in game but the account link really screwed everything up :rolleyes:
I still use a all DHC or 3DHC 1 DBB bugship in kerrat and pugging queues sometimes, but its hard to use against premades with healers now, too much to overcome without a decloaking alpha most of the time. Must be even more hard if you don't have a bugship. I don't even use my non rom tacs that don't have bugships anymore.
I still use a all DHC or 3DHC 1 DBB bugship in kerrat and pugging queues sometimes, but its hard to use against premades with healers now, too much to overcome without a decloaking alpha most of the time. Must be even more hard if you don't have a bugship. I don't even use my non rom tacs that don't have bugships anymore.
Hello Tala, yes i still see you in Kerrat sometimes , and in Kerrat i dont mind my Bug as its still lots of Fun in kerrat, but my gripe is With Cruisers Out damaging me and of course them being nearly impenetrable, what used to take me a lot less time to destroy is now taking a hell of lot longer, which is why in my OP i thought id ask the community, what their thoughts were
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Probably just the flavor of the month. Give it 6 month and it will be on the top again. Give it 10 month and it will suck again. Give it 12 and sci ships will be the only pvp ships. In 14 it will be cruisers...
Hello Tala, yes i still see you in Kerrat sometimes , and in Kerrat i dont mind my Bug as its still lots of Fun in kerrat, but my gripe is With Cruisers Out damaging me and of course them being nearly impenetrable, what used to take me a lot less time to destroy is now taking a hell of lot longer, which is why in my OP i thought id ask the community, what their thoughts were
Yeah its pretty hard taking some of the a2b cruisers down with a bug, what I do sometimes is do a feint attack or too and get them to burn buffs like APA, DEM, and doffed RSP, and using superior speed to stay out of range then come in when its out, also need elite disruptor now to help overcome all that shields they have.
Problem is with a2b they can keep powerful skills like DEM3 at global and use doffed RSP 1 or 2 at the same time and by the time it wears off a2b made it come off cooldown only 10 or 15 sec later, its ridiculous sometimes and seems like every fed is using it lol. Then the other problem is overcapped dem faw beams shouldn't hit a single target harder then a DHC bug but it does especially because of the bleed through.
Hello Tala, yes i still see you in Kerrat sometimes , and in Kerrat i dont mind my Bug as its still lots of Fun in kerrat, but my gripe is With Cruisers Out damaging me and of course them being nearly impenetrable, what used to take me a lot less time to destroy is now taking a hell of lot longer, which is why in my OP i thought id ask the community, what their thoughts were
You need to stop worrying about the end of match numbers. Last night I was doing some PvP and I was hitting and killing folks with 60-70K crits and had about 1.2 million in damage and the BFAW cruiser on my team had 2 million. Numbers without context are just numbers and mean nothing. I wouls rather have an escort with 70K damage per ship killed then have BFAW cruiser that did 2 million damage but really contributed nothing to a kill.
Hey I Used to be Captain Data, well I guess I still am in game but the account link really screwed everything up :rolleyes:
Yeah its pretty hard taking some of the a2b cruisers down with a bug, what I do sometimes is do a feint attack or too and get them to burn buffs like APA, DEM, and doffed RSP, and using superior speed to stay out of range then come in when its out, also need elite disruptor now to help overcome all that shields they have.
Problem is with a2b they can keep powerful skills like DEM3 at global and use doffed RSP 1 or 2 at the same time and by the time it wears off a2b made it come off cooldown only 10 or 15 sec later, its ridiculous sometimes and seems like every fed is using it lol. Then the other problem is overcapped dem faw beams shouldn't hit a single target harder then a DHC bug but it does especially because of the bleed through.
I could not have said it any better (overcapped dem faw beams shouldn't hit a single target harder then a DHC bug but it does) i see im not the only one who feels this way and well Being a Fed i dont have access to those wonderful fleet Disruptors so i swap out either AP Reg Disruptors or Polarons
on another note me and one of you fleet mates Hissy fit have also been discussing this issue, and yes we have to be more creative and its not impossible to take them down ... it is as you have said a FAW beam Boat should not out damage a JHAS or Equivalent Scort .... thats why Mini has it all figured out ...
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You need to stop worrying about the end of match numbers. Last night I was doing some PvP and I was hitting and killing folks with 60-70K crits and had about 1.2 million in damage and the BFAW cruiser on my team had 2 million. Numbers without context are just numbers and mean nothing. I wouls rather have an escort with 70K damage per ship killed then have BFAW cruiser that did 2 million damage but really contributed nothing to a kill.
Basically, it's not the guy that did the most damage to kill the target but the guy that did the least damage to kill the target...
Removed the 5 second immunity associated with Elachi Disruptor procs. These weapons no longer cause a lockout period, and can proc as often as other weapons.
...so I guess there's no more making fun of the Elachi Turrets, heh.
Wow that is some good news the Proc lockout was what kept me from purchasing them,,,, any clue as to when to expect the change ?
Those were from the March 7th notes last week...they posted new Tribble notes today. Given the standard turnaround, probably see the Holo notes from Smirk later tomorrow - won't actually know until then. I've been mulling it over since the notes...there's been some griping (lol, me included) about what it might mean with regard to FAW boats sporting Elachi Arrays. Haven't seen Cryptic say anything about those multiple FAW boat concerns...so it might go live on Thursday - will have to see.
Those were from the March 7th notes last week...they posted new Tribble notes today. Given the standard turnaround, probably see the Holo notes from Smirk later tomorrow - won't actually know until then. I've been mulling it over since the notes...there's been some griping (lol, me included) about what it might mean with regard to FAW boats sporting Elachi Arrays. Haven't seen Cryptic say anything about those multiple FAW boat concerns...so it might go live on Thursday - will have to see.
Yes i can see it now BTW Virus i always enjoy reading your Posts, I particularly liked your thoughts on Beam Rapid Fire and Beam Scatter volley Its a shame that Craptic does not heed your thoughts and ideas, then the game would be more balanced and more enjoyable
Thank you for the Info
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I would like to know who believes that the age of a Classic Cannon/Bo Escort is at an end, meaning it is no longer the premiere damage dealer and no longer King in PvP.
I'm sorry, but I've just been informed of this post
Who the heck are you, and why are you using a picture of my main toon as your avatar!? :eek: :mad:
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So Ive noticed Im a Bug Tac/scort Captain and I love my ship, but i am being outclassed and out damaged by By Aux2Bat Beam FAW/DEM Wepon Power Overcapped Cruisers which not only Outdamges my JHAS but im having a real hard time taking them down , im not the Best Tac/scort Pilot but i hold my own and I know how to time my buffs, but lately it is no longer effective...
Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.
Today: Multiple ways to dmg delivery, cannonscorts not at the top of the food chain any longer. They still work if embedded in fitting team setup, against teams that has little defense against a classic bug swarm.
Hrmm, you know about the Elachi changes on Tribble...right?
Ill let you find who is the math genious who thinks that 45 degrees weapons should be 100 worse than 250 degrees beams.
Also cannons are not canon (Deep space nice and all star trek movies were in your imagination).Wars are done with exploration ships.
STO is unique in the mmo world thou..The first mmo that is 100% made and designed by roleplayers for roleplayers.
Multiple as in faw or vape?I don't think people can do that...I mean its way to hard for the average joe :rolleyes:
No Virus i am not aware please do tell
Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.
Agreed Wolverine, and yes i do also use those , but its just that, Pretty good, My JHAS has no less than 8 different Loadouts (Which is still Bugged thanks to Cryptic wonderful quality assurance control) to deal with different opponents...yet....
Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.
The above build has allowed me to dust off the Raptor on the KDF side. I think when the TT split happens the 3 tac raptor may be able to take advantage of the TT split.
Hello Tala, yes i still see you in Kerrat sometimes , and in Kerrat i dont mind my Bug as its still lots of Fun in kerrat, but my gripe is With Cruisers Out damaging me and of course them being nearly impenetrable, what used to take me a lot less time to destroy is now taking a hell of lot longer, which is why in my OP i thought id ask the community, what their thoughts were
Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.
Yeah its pretty hard taking some of the a2b cruisers down with a bug, what I do sometimes is do a feint attack or too and get them to burn buffs like APA, DEM, and doffed RSP, and using superior speed to stay out of range then come in when its out, also need elite disruptor now to help overcome all that shields they have.
Problem is with a2b they can keep powerful skills like DEM3 at global and use doffed RSP 1 or 2 at the same time and by the time it wears off a2b made it come off cooldown only 10 or 15 sec later, its ridiculous sometimes and seems like every fed is using it lol. Then the other problem is overcapped dem faw beams shouldn't hit a single target harder then a DHC bug but it does especially because of the bleed through.
You need to stop worrying about the end of match numbers. Last night I was doing some PvP and I was hitting and killing folks with 60-70K crits and had about 1.2 million in damage and the BFAW cruiser on my team had 2 million. Numbers without context are just numbers and mean nothing. I wouls rather have an escort with 70K damage per ship killed then have BFAW cruiser that did 2 million damage but really contributed nothing to a kill.
I could not have said it any better (overcapped dem faw beams shouldn't hit a single target harder then a DHC bug but it does) i see im not the only one who feels this way and well Being a Fed i dont have access to those wonderful fleet Disruptors so i swap out either AP Reg Disruptors or Polarons
on another note me and one of you fleet mates Hissy fit have also been discussing this issue, and yes we have to be more creative and its not impossible to take them down ... it is as you have said a FAW beam Boat should not out damage a JHAS or Equivalent Scort .... thats why Mini has it all figured out ...
Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.
Basically, it's not the guy that did the most damage to kill the target but the guy that did the least damage to kill the target...
Interesting about the Elachi process though. Might dust them bad-boys off.
Virus what is this Elachi changes that you speak of on tribble server? i am curious
Thanks
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This bit...
...so I guess there's no more making fun of the Elachi Turrets, heh.
Wow that is some good news the Proc lockout was what kept me from purchasing them,,,, any clue as to when to expect the change ?
Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.
Those were from the March 7th notes last week...they posted new Tribble notes today. Given the standard turnaround, probably see the Holo notes from Smirk later tomorrow - won't actually know until then. I've been mulling it over since the notes...there's been some griping (lol, me included) about what it might mean with regard to FAW boats sporting Elachi Arrays. Haven't seen Cryptic say anything about those multiple FAW boat concerns...so it might go live on Thursday - will have to see.
Yes i can see it now BTW Virus i always enjoy reading your Posts, I particularly liked your thoughts on Beam Rapid Fire and Beam Scatter volley Its a shame that Craptic does not heed your thoughts and ideas, then the game would be more balanced and more enjoyable
Thank you for the Info
Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.
I have been workingon this lately and the results are with much satisfaction.
To reveal a bit: It concerns locator cannon consoles, DHC's, experimental proton cannon, beam overload, scatter volley
@rudiefix Feds: Rudiefix / Thron / Opa
@rudiefix KDFs: Lill / Xifeidur / Dehr / Ugly
@rudiefix Roms (KDF alligned): Chicita
I'm sorry, but I've just been informed of this post
Who the heck are you, and why are you using a picture of my main toon as your avatar!? :eek: :mad:
Sorry Just a Picture I found that I Like nothing More to it .. i can Change it makes you Happy
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It's like I've found my mirror twin.
Proof of ownership. The character's name is Hawkins, and he's my main.
http://imgur.com/a/2XKNK#72
I may appreciate you changing it, if you do not mind.
Already Done and I am sorry did not mean anything by it just a gif I found Using Google
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