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Cryptic Dropped the ball with Starbases and fleets

robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
edited March 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I can understand why cryptic done it as when you reach Tier V there was no other ships that were higher so they released The Fleet versions and to do that we needed starbases and fleet provisions as a way of purchasing them. But getting Fleet marks can be suck a drag as there is only a few ways to get marks and you have to grind and grind to get 60 marks I think it the highest I got without a bonus event and that was in Crystalline catastrophe (I may be wrong with this). Now I'm not a avid PVP player as I know that side of the game is broken in some ways. But wouldn't it be good if they had done a fleet vs fleet pvp even if it was 5 vs 5 to make certain numbers flaired and it earned fleet marks for either each round won or each kill and then at the end the people who had the most kills/wins would get bonus marks and then the runners-up will get some but not as much.

The reason I suggest this is two fold Fleets have very little interaction with other fleets and star trek was all about meeting new life and civilizations and fleets can be STO version of that.

PVP bootcamp would have more people joining so they can PVP with there fleet or on there own. It would increase compeitition in a good way so we can then do tournaments and stuff.

what does anyone else think
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    As long as it isn't mandatory, get whatever gimmicks you want.

    Personally I wan't nothing to do with bickering PvP'ers.
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Star bases are cryptics "first stage" for pvp.
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  • rahmkota19rahmkota19 Member Posts: 1,929 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    As long as it isn't mandatory, get whatever gimmicks you want.

    Personally I wan't nothing to do with bickering PvP'ers.

    This. This explains it all.




    As for getting fleet marks:
    - Defera Hard run (240 marks in 15-20 minutes)
    - No Win Scenario (around 280 marks for completing wave 9, which is achievable by most teams that use the appropiate gear and boff powers)
    - Colony Invasion (45 marks in 5 minutes)
    - Fleet Alert (47 marks in 7 minutes)

    No, I don't have a problem with getting Fleet Marks. More ways is never a problem, but you might want to take a look into this.
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  • walshicuswalshicus Member Posts: 1,314 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Yeah, if you're not using Defera Invasion for your Fleet Marks then you're really not doing it right.
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  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    You will never have a problem getting marks, ec or whatever. The only problem in STO is the TIME. The goal is to gather as many resources you can in less time possible. But if you have all the time in the world, you can get everything you want, if not today, tomorrow. There are plenty of options to gather marks, dilithium, and everything else.
  • groomofweirdgroomofweird Member Posts: 1,045 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I have thought about this idea once or twice myself and I think it would be pretty fun :)
    I don't pvp much outside of fleet and I think it would be fun to lead my men into glorious battle! Win or lose it would be fun and teach us allot allong the way no doubt.
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  • kolbrandrkolbrandr Member Posts: 266
    edited March 2014
    Crystalline Elite + Colony Invasion = 100+ Fleet Marks

    As for PVP...the worst thing about PVP is the PVPers. Unfortunate because I generally enjoy PVP of all types. Gotta close the chat window though.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    If your proposal has absolutely nothing within it that provides a thorough and sustainable change to pvp to make it enjoyable, then all I'm going to do is just hit full impulse into the enemy team every time I respawn until the match is over and I get my marks.

    I'm okay if other people want to be masochists, but I'm only going to be a TRIBBLE if it means fleet progression, and if Cryptic doesn't care about pvp -- I won't either.
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  • uryenserellonturyenserellont Member Posts: 858 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I have no problem getting marks. I have a problem spending marks.
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Plenty of missions that give choice of marks, fleet marks or some other marks. Getting fleet marks is not a problem.
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  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    uryenserellont wrote: »
    I have no problem getting marks. I have a problem spending marks.


    Yeah, that was my first though while reading the op.
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  • landshark666landshark666 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Anybody who has issues spending their fleet marks, should definitely look me up in game :)
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  • csagent31csagent31 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    rahmkota19 wrote: »
    This. This explains it all.




    As for getting fleet marks:
    - Defera Hard run (240 marks in 15-20 minutes)
    - No Win Scenario (around 280 marks for completing wave 9, which is achievable by most teams that use the appropiate gear and boff powers)
    - Colony Invasion (45 marks in 5 minutes)
    - Fleet Alert (47 marks in 7 minutes)

    No, I don't have a problem with getting Fleet Marks. More ways is never a problem, but you might want to take a look into this.

    You left out Starbase Fleet Defense (20 man PvE) which earns 105-115 FM during Bonus, or 75-90 FM regularly.

    It varies depending on if the Starbase survives during the various phases, and if all 4 holdings (comm array, shipyard, industrial fabricator, and transwarp gate) survives during phase 3.
  • darkjeffdarkjeff Member Posts: 2,590 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Don't forget we get marks from DOffings, there's nothing else to do with commendation experience.

    I've received thousands from occasionally hitting up the starbase for assignments.
  • saihung423saihung423 Member Posts: 548 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    fleet marks are hard to come by?


    Nahhh. They are easy to get, seriously. Very very easy.
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