"turn on their brains" and saying that "the majority of the pvp-community is just braindead"
Talking about what's wrong with the PvP community hee?
One word: "hypocrite"
gg <-- doesn't hurt to say that
since i am not a prohet or nostradamus or whatever we couldnt adapt to the way how trh executed the match it were clever tactics from pax but it was simply a LAME and cowardeous tactics since nobody of u guys, who offended me, were part of the match u dont have the right to judge about what has happened in this match. But also for this kind of strategy there will be a counter aswell we just need to figure out how the next time.
With my response "there is always a counter" i was referring to the current and known strategies.
Besides i am fully convinced that no other fleet which would have been played from our perspective against these tactics would have reacted happy or pleased about these skirmishes during the run of the match especially in a match having a time limit of 30 min.
In the first sto frontline tournament there wasnt a time limit at all and in that case it would have been different to encounter such a team than in a fight where you only have a limited time available.
Maybe it wasn't you, i even said in the paragraph i pasted that i wasn't sure, but it is quite a significant coincidence. The time the incident i am talking about occurred, was not long after the scimitar was released. Prior to season 8 of course. Thats what i was flying actually, a Scimitar. I kept cloaking/uncloaking, and this Hannibal character, who may or may not have been you, was raging saying without a cloak he would kill me and i was a noob, and also eventually that i should just stop using it all together to make it 'fair'. He then went so far as to accuse me of using cloaked barrage and that's how i got him down to less than 5% which i don't ever use, i only ever use the other 2 consoles for the 2 piece decloaking turn rate buff and shielded cloak.
In actual fact, I am sure you are very supportive within your fleet and even with other pvper's you know, but in all honesty people usually show their true colours when dealing with people they think they won't encounter again or have any lasting dealings with. It wasn't intended as a personal slight, but if it was you then i am a big believer in people being held accountable for their behaviour.
I don't have a screenshot, it wasn't that important to me, nor do i go round with my fingers hovering over the print screen key just in case someone deals me a slight on a video game. The only reason i even mentioned it is your name popped up in another thread about pvp, and then i saw it again in this thread, complaining. This is what reminded me of the 1 on 1.
You are right though, of course. I can't move anywhere in STO without bumping into someone called Hannibal, in a bug ship called 'USS Hannibal', it must have been someone else.
" Experience is a hard mistress, she gives the tests first, and the lessons after... "
Frankly Hannibal, I don't see what your problem is here. You bring snoopers, you have to expect the cloakers to hide. What, did you want them to line up to be keybind-targetted and destroyed everytime they got too close? It's the only real counter. I also understand there were 3 other ships to shoot at. The fact that your snoopers spent the match hunting cloakers instead of coordinating against available and visible targets was a fail on the part of your team. As much as I dislike TRH, they really didn't do anything but respond to the team build you brought.
Honestly, I really think we all oughta move on from this. As one of the guys who was actually there to moderate the tournament after Drk left, a decision was made by us.
I can understand not being happy about the whole thing, but it doesn't change that it is also done and over with now.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Honestly, I really think we all oughta move on from this. As one of the guys who was actually there to moderate the tournament after Drk left, a decision was made by us.
I can understand not being happy about the whole thing, but it doesn't change that it is also done and over with now.
You are right though, of course. I can't move anywhere in STO without bumping into someone called Hannibal, in a bug ship called 'USS Hannibal', it must have been someone else.
1. Don't worry Caldannach, you hit the nail right on the head. It was this guy you were facing in the 1vs1
2. I should have read closer i guess but i thought that TRH team was flying a 5 man cloaker team.
Watching that video cleared it up.
If you guys can't kill those 3 non-cloaker ships then you must have been doing something wrong!
QQing about 2 cloakers is just complete nonsense and just shows the hypocrisy again of you guys.
(to the veterans here who still know the QEW legends)
(sigh good old times; i remember no one complaining about their setup back then; too many crybabies nowadays)
They used to fly around with 3 heals+2 cloak vapers too and and it worked nicely!
There's nothing wrong at all with that setup so stop the complaining Hannibal!
Hannibal its time you stop crying about your loss, you had 5v3 most of the game and it was perfecly possible to kill one of the 3 that were not cloacked, if others were able to do it it was your fault that you couldnt, anyone that sees your video will see that you guys only cared to shoot at the 3 visible guys when there was about 10 mins left in the match... so who fault was that?
you can even see at your nice video that i was asking you guys to shoot me...
and yes it was me telling the guys to stay out of the match... you mad bro?
everything we do ... correction... looks like everything i do you dont like... first me telling them to stay out of the match, result you cryed for 1 week, them we got you on a match and i was nucking your decloack alpha without detection and you cryed after the match, calling us all noobs, but the one that keeps crying instead of improving your game is you...
this game is all about adapting to the game... you could perfectly won the match against us if you didnt loose 66% of the match looking for no one...
i adapted and since you guys were running detection builds i countered it and told them to stay out... after the kills...
Congratz to RE
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Federation :: Fleetless :: Klingon Jorge Silva - Tac | Nayja - Sci | Jorge E. Silva - Eng Jorge R. Silva - Tac (Romulan Fed) Nayja K Silva - Sci | Vurg'jah - Tac
1. Don't worry Caldannach, you hit the nail right on the head. It was this guy you were facing in the 1vs1
2. I should have read closer i guess but i thought that TRH team was flying a 5 man cloaker team.
Watching that video cleared it up.
If you guys can't kill those 3 non-cloaker ships then you must have been doing something wrong!
QQing about 2 cloakers is just complete nonsense and just shows the hypocrisy again of you guys.
(to the veterans here who still know the QEW legends)
(sigh good old times; i remember no one complaining about their setup back then; too many crybabies nowadays)
They used to fly around with 3 heals+2 cloak vapers too and and it worked nicely!
There's nothing wrong at all with that setup so stop the complaining Hannibal!
you (whoever u are) have absolutely no idea whats going on. he said he bought that ship in season 7 but at that time i didnt own a damn bugship i was flying a fleet dhelan. I have gotten this ship not for a longer time and i never named that ship "uss hannibal" so before u accuse me u should calm down since i have nothing to do with this. just because there are other guys flying that ship under my name and name their vessels similarly like me u have the right to critizise me ? u should be 100% sure before u begin to harass someone in a public forum.
Besides, my romulan tac is named "Hannibals Shadow" not "hannibal".
the only ****ijng ship names i used on the bug were: USS "Auf die freeesssse" and "USS Tunisian Rp Hero" if u want to know it. so does that make sense for u that it couldnt have been me who has done the 1v1 against him?
Who are u that u have the right to critizise me it was the first time that i complained about a way someone engaged in a tournament match after 1 and a half year. I remember how often trh cried after inner circle has kicked them out of the arena numerous times by accusing us for using broken doffs which is even more ridiculous than what i am referring to. That was really a pathetic behaviour.
you (whoever u are) have absolutely no idea whats going on. he said he bought that ship in season 7 but at that time i didnt own a damn bugship i was flying a fleet dhelan. I have gotten this ship not for a longer time and i never named that ship "uss hannibal" so before u accuse me u should calm down since i have nothing to do with this. just because there are other guys flying that ship under my name and name their vessels similarly like me u have the right to critizise me ? u should be 100% sure before u begin to harass someone in a public forum.
Besides, my romulan tac is named "Hannibals Shadow" not "hannibal".
the only ****ijng ship names i used on the bug were: USS "Auf die freeesssse" and "USS Tunisian Rp Hero" if u want to know it. so does that make sense for u that it couldnt have been me who has done the 1v1 against him?
Who are u that u have the right to critizise me it was the first time that i complained about a way someone engaged in a tournament match after 1 and a half year. I remember how often trh cried after inner circle has kicked them out of the arena numerous times by accusing us for using broken doffs which is even more ridiculous than what i am referring to. That was really a pathetic behaviour.
No, what is truly "pathetic behavior", is you crying about one match all over the forums and to everyone willing to listen to you.
I think i owe this to the community and to the organizers of the tourney.
I just wanted to apologize to everyone especially to the guys of TRH for my personal behaviour over the last week and since the end of the 2nd sto frontline tourney.
I know i did overreact after those matches in the OPvP channel and tried to insult and humiliate TRH and their playstyle and some other PvPers for their opinions. I realized pretty soon that it was not a good idea to treat most of the guys in a bad way and now i am regretting it. It was not my intention to cause trouble neither to the organizers nor to the participants of the tourney aswell as to some pvpers from OPvP-channel .I rather wanted to express how PvP keeps deteriorating from season to season and this is regrettable. PvP will be no longer won with skill but those who can offer the most cunning and naughty strategies. This was never my perspective of PvP when i have learned it. From my side i always wanted to play fair and square PvP-matches regardless the victory or the defeat for my team. I have never had problems loosing matches as long as they were fought fairly. Also Pax offered our team the price for the 2nd place of the frontline tournament but me and our team refused it though it was a polite offer.
A tournament which is implemented and played peacefully by the partcipants, with having the fun for everybody in the foreground, is the most important thing and not only the rewards.
With that said, I wanted to apologize for the ongoings the last couple of days and I admit that it was definetely not the right move to act the way I did hence I hope you understand me a bit aswell.
I think i owe this to the community and to the organizers of the tourney.
I just wanted to apologize to everyone especially to the guys of TRH for my personal behaviour over the last week and since the end of the 2nd sto frontline tourney.
I know i did overreact after those matches in the OPvP channel and tried to insult and humiliate TRH and their playstyle and some other PvPers for their opinions. I realized pretty soon that it was not a good idea to treat most of the guys in a bad way and now i am regretting it. It was not my intention to cause trouble neither to the organizers nor to the participants of the tourney aswell as to some pvpers from OPvP-channel .I rather wanted to express how PvP keeps deteriorating from season to season and this is regrettable. PvP will be no longer won with skill but those who can offer the most cunning and naughty strategies. This was never my perspective of PvP when i have learned it. From my side i always wanted to play fair and square PvP-matches regardless the victory or the defeat for my team. I have never had problems loosing matches as long as they were fought fairly. Also Pax offered our team the price for the 2nd place of the frontline tournament but me and our team refused this offer though it was a polite offer.
A tournament which is implemented and played peacefully by the partcipants, with having the fun for everybody in the foreground, is the most important thing and not only the rewards.
With that said, I wanted to apologize for the ongoings the last couple of days and I admit that it was definetely not the right move to act the way I did hence I hope you understand me aswell a bit.
I think that's good that you're showing apologize .. that you're only human. Everyone has determined overreacted advance in certain things , just like you at the tournament . But I think also that you have to have first the courage to apologize, what I expect you to high.
In the end, everyone should behave as one would expect from others with some respect and politeness . I know that is not always easy , the more you should make sure how to say or write something.
If everyone takes a little more considerate , there would be no such disputes and we would all definitely more fun in the game.
Finally , a word about OPvP Channel , .. also there you can talk normally and not have to constantly provoke people .. that is just as bad. Also there you can show decency and behave socially .
I would be happy if everyone would take something more consideration .
Thank you .. I have done.
Greetings from Germany
David
PS . I hope you understand my broken English.
PPS. LoL MT.. and Hank has right.. you not safe there.. we will find you. xD
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
T'lilu SCI./Dxxdavid TAK./STO Inner Circle *** R.I.P. ***
PvP will be no longer won with skill but those who can offer the most cunning and naughty strategies. This was never my perspective of PvP when i have learned it. From my side i always wanted to play fair and square PvP-matches
It's nice of you to apologize, but this statement the way I read says if you practice and create a solid strategy to defeat another solid strategy you/your team are skill less? We have all been PvPing in this game for awhile and I think it is pretty safe to say that it has never been fair for all parties involved there are very few cookie cutter builds out there, long grind times for rep bonus's
doffs at mind blowing prices the list goes on and on.
What I find un fair is that for a new player to build a pvp build to compete with veterans they are either paying real money $300-$500 for Dill, doffs, lobi consoles and then a 1-2 month grind depending on factors for rep bonuses or they are playing for a year strait f2p to get to this point. and then x that by 5 for the whole team.
This is just my opinion Hannibal and I to wish that sto pvp could be fun and fair for all but it is just not the cause there are so many different lvls of skill that I think it is hard to pin point one thing in pvp that is fair or unfair it's all open to interpretation...and I'm sure in many cases that's why pvp'rs continue to play.
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since i am not a prohet or nostradamus or whatever we couldnt adapt to the way how trh executed the match it were clever tactics from pax but it was simply a LAME and cowardeous tactics since nobody of u guys, who offended me, were part of the match u dont have the right to judge about what has happened in this match. But also for this kind of strategy there will be a counter aswell we just need to figure out how the next time.
With my response "there is always a counter" i was referring to the current and known strategies.
Besides i am fully convinced that no other fleet which would have been played from our perspective against these tactics would have reacted happy or pleased about these skirmishes during the run of the match especially in a match having a time limit of 30 min.
In the first sto frontline tournament there wasnt a time limit at all and in that case it would have been different to encounter such a team than in a fight where you only have a limited time available.
-=Hannibal - Inner Circle PvP-Department=-
Hannibal's YouTube PvP-channel (under construction)
More Inner Circle PvP-Action worth watching from: Hank, Mira Theng and Zimbilimbim
In actual fact, I am sure you are very supportive within your fleet and even with other pvper's you know, but in all honesty people usually show their true colours when dealing with people they think they won't encounter again or have any lasting dealings with. It wasn't intended as a personal slight, but if it was you then i am a big believer in people being held accountable for their behaviour.
I don't have a screenshot, it wasn't that important to me, nor do i go round with my fingers hovering over the print screen key just in case someone deals me a slight on a video game. The only reason i even mentioned it is your name popped up in another thread about pvp, and then i saw it again in this thread, complaining. This is what reminded me of the 1 on 1.
You are right though, of course. I can't move anywhere in STO without bumping into someone called Hannibal, in a bug ship called 'USS Hannibal', it must have been someone else.
I can understand not being happy about the whole thing, but it doesn't change that it is also done and over with now.
Hi,..
your right mimey.. its done and finish.
Maybe we can Chance something in thze next turney.. better rules for more fairplay and a live drawing, that will be fine.
greetings
*** R.I.P. ***
Yeah we didn't adapt well on the fly. We were also not equipped to take advantage of the rules set. Nothing on TRH, they won and we didn't.
Agreed. Done is done.
1. Don't worry Caldannach, you hit the nail right on the head. It was this guy you were facing in the 1vs1
2. I should have read closer i guess but i thought that TRH team was flying a 5 man cloaker team.
Watching that video cleared it up.
If you guys can't kill those 3 non-cloaker ships then you must have been doing something wrong!
QQing about 2 cloakers is just complete nonsense and just shows the hypocrisy again of you guys.
(to the veterans here who still know the QEW legends)
(sigh good old times; i remember no one complaining about their setup back then; too many crybabies nowadays)
They used to fly around with 3 heals+2 cloak vapers too and and it worked nicely!
There's nothing wrong at all with that setup so stop the complaining Hannibal!
you can even see at your nice video that i was asking you guys to shoot me...
and yes it was me telling the guys to stay out of the match... you mad bro?
everything we do ... correction... looks like everything i do you dont like... first me telling them to stay out of the match, result you cryed for 1 week, them we got you on a match and i was nucking your decloack alpha without detection and you cryed after the match, calling us all noobs, but the one that keeps crying instead of improving your game is you...
this game is all about adapting to the game... you could perfectly won the match against us if you didnt loose 66% of the match looking for no one...
i adapted and since you guys were running detection builds i countered it and told them to stay out... after the kills...
Congratz to RE
Federation :: Fleetless :: Klingon
Jorge Silva - Tac | Nayja - Sci | Jorge E. Silva - Eng
Jorge R. Silva - Tac (Romulan Fed)
Nayja K Silva - Sci | Vurg'jah - Tac
you (whoever u are) have absolutely no idea whats going on. he said he bought that ship in season 7 but at that time i didnt own a damn bugship i was flying a fleet dhelan. I have gotten this ship not for a longer time and i never named that ship "uss hannibal" so before u accuse me u should calm down since i have nothing to do with this. just because there are other guys flying that ship under my name and name their vessels similarly like me u have the right to critizise me ? u should be 100% sure before u begin to harass someone in a public forum.
Besides, my romulan tac is named "Hannibals Shadow" not "hannibal".
the only ****ijng ship names i used on the bug were: USS "Auf die freeesssse" and "USS Tunisian Rp Hero" if u want to know it. so does that make sense for u that it couldnt have been me who has done the 1v1 against him?
Who are u that u have the right to critizise me it was the first time that i complained about a way someone engaged in a tournament match after 1 and a half year. I remember how often trh cried after inner circle has kicked them out of the arena numerous times by accusing us for using broken doffs which is even more ridiculous than what i am referring to. That was really a pathetic behaviour.
-=Hannibal - Inner Circle PvP-Department=-
Hannibal's YouTube PvP-channel (under construction)
More Inner Circle PvP-Action worth watching from: Hank, Mira Theng and Zimbilimbim
No, what is truly "pathetic behavior", is you crying about one match all over the forums and to everyone willing to listen to you.
This tournament has been slipped from f****g grasp!!!
I have been absent for too long from field of battle, keep mouth and hold f**** tongue!
Oh and RE well fought in times of glory! The Doctore (me) has taught you well!
Oh I can help you out MT,.. check this one,.. maybe you remember fireing phasers. :P :rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09c6CbJJ6dk
See you out there.. .
greetings
*** R.I.P. ***
I just wanted to apologize to everyone especially to the guys of TRH for my personal behaviour over the last week and since the end of the 2nd sto frontline tourney.
I know i did overreact after those matches in the OPvP channel and tried to insult and humiliate TRH and their playstyle and some other PvPers for their opinions. I realized pretty soon that it was not a good idea to treat most of the guys in a bad way and now i am regretting it. It was not my intention to cause trouble neither to the organizers nor to the participants of the tourney aswell as to some pvpers from OPvP-channel .I rather wanted to express how PvP keeps deteriorating from season to season and this is regrettable. PvP will be no longer won with skill but those who can offer the most cunning and naughty strategies. This was never my perspective of PvP when i have learned it. From my side i always wanted to play fair and square PvP-matches regardless the victory or the defeat for my team. I have never had problems loosing matches as long as they were fought fairly. Also Pax offered our team the price for the 2nd place of the frontline tournament but me and our team refused it though it was a polite offer.
A tournament which is implemented and played peacefully by the partcipants, with having the fun for everybody in the foreground, is the most important thing and not only the rewards.
With that said, I wanted to apologize for the ongoings the last couple of days and I admit that it was definetely not the right move to act the way I did hence I hope you understand me a bit aswell.
Regards Hannibal
-=Hannibal - Inner Circle PvP-Department=-
Hannibal's YouTube PvP-channel (under construction)
More Inner Circle PvP-Action worth watching from: Hank, Mira Theng and Zimbilimbim
Perhaps one day bruh, i will hax into this game with my Aerospace Hornet and vape all u at once!!!
Gonna torp spread 3 you there.
I loooovz you Hannibal smooooooooooooooch!
I think that's good that you're showing apologize .. that you're only human. Everyone has determined overreacted advance in certain things , just like you at the tournament . But I think also that you have to have first the courage to apologize, what I expect you to high.
In the end, everyone should behave as one would expect from others with some respect and politeness . I know that is not always easy , the more you should make sure how to say or write something.
If everyone takes a little more considerate , there would be no such disputes and we would all definitely more fun in the game.
Finally , a word about OPvP Channel , .. also there you can talk normally and not have to constantly provoke people .. that is just as bad. Also there you can show decency and behave socially .
I would be happy if everyone would take something more consideration .
Thank you .. I have done.
Greetings from Germany
David
PS . I hope you understand my broken English.
PPS. LoL MT.. and Hank has right.. you not safe there.. we will find you. xD
*** R.I.P. ***
It's nice of you to apologize, but this statement the way I read says if you practice and create a solid strategy to defeat another solid strategy you/your team are skill less? We have all been PvPing in this game for awhile and I think it is pretty safe to say that it has never been fair for all parties involved there are very few cookie cutter builds out there, long grind times for rep bonus's
doffs at mind blowing prices the list goes on and on.
What I find un fair is that for a new player to build a pvp build to compete with veterans they are either paying real money $300-$500 for Dill, doffs, lobi consoles and then a 1-2 month grind depending on factors for rep bonuses or they are playing for a year strait f2p to get to this point. and then x that by 5 for the whole team.
This is just my opinion Hannibal and I to wish that sto pvp could be fun and fair for all but it is just not the cause there are so many different lvls of skill that I think it is hard to pin point one thing in pvp that is fair or unfair it's all open to interpretation...and I'm sure in many cases that's why pvp'rs continue to play.
Good Luck And Have Fun Out There...
~The Eleventh Order~
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