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  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    stoutes wrote: »
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.

    LMAO all I could see was Dr Sheldon Cooper as I read that. Well done sir.
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    stoutes wrote: »
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
    I read this and laughed while my brain hurt trying to navigate through it.

    If I read it correctly and did my sums right, Stoutes' Paradox seems to define nerf's existence as a quantum state. Which means nerf can be both OP and nerfed at the same time, depending upon one's viewpoint. So nerf can accomplish whatever the viewer wants it to at the present moment and will remain in its current state until the viewer stops paying attention to it. Whereupon nerf reverts to the other state.
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  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    stoutes wrote: »
    So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf
    Oh I made a...
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
  • jjdezjjdez Member Posts: 570 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    stoutes wrote: »
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.

    Flawless victory, haha.
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,473 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Thread falling to page 2 is OP, plz nerf.
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Posting to simply bump this thread back to Page 1 is OP. Plz nerf. :P
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I read this and laughed while my brain hurt trying to navigate through it.

    If I read it correctly and did my sums right, Stoutes' Paradox seems to define nerf's existence as a quantum state. Which means nerf can be both OP and nerfed at the same time, depending upon one's viewpoint. So nerf can accomplish whatever the viewer wants it to at the present moment and will remain in its current state until the viewer stops paying attention to it. Whereupon nerf reverts to the other state.
    Actually, Stoutes' Paradox assumes the nerf exists outside time. If you destroy it at one point in the timeline, you destroy it in all points of the timeline. Same concept was used in the ST: Enterprise episode, Twilight. Honestly, the only time I felt more cheated by a time travel plot in the entire IP was JJ Trek.

    JJ is OP. Hit 'im with a nerf bat, then nerf nerf (assuming, still, nerf exists outside time...)
    Posting to simply bump this thread back to Page 1 is OP. Plz nerf. :P
    At least bumping a thread full of nerf assures a soft landing.
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  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    New forum buzzword-of-the-week "revamp" is OP, plz nerf.
  • doomiciledoomicile Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    The G-X, updated or not, is still a relic of a bygone era during STO's initial launch year. She's a decent tank with a little more firepower than, say a Star Cruiser, but tanking has absolutely no purpose or value in STO's current build and with current Rep and Fleet Gear and a variety of Doffs, escorts can keep themselves alive just fine without the need for a zombie healer.

    That goes for both PvE and especially PvP.
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  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    doomicile wrote: »
    The G-X, updated or not, is still a relic of a bygone era during STO's initial launch year. She's a decent tank with a little more firepower than, say a Star Cruiser, but tanking has absolutely no purpose or value in STO's current build and with current Rep and Fleet Gear and a variety of Doffs, escorts can keep themselves alive just fine without the need for a zombie healer.

    That goes for both PvE and especially PvP.

    Blast from the Past post is outdated, plz revamp
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    doomicile wrote: »
    The G-X, updated or not, is still a relic of a bygone era during STO's initial launch year. She's a decent tank with a little more firepower than, say a Star Cruiser, but tanking has absolutely no purpose or value in STO's current build and with current Rep and Fleet Gear and a variety of Doffs, escorts can keep themselves alive just fine without the need for a zombie healer.

    That goes for both PvE and especially PvP.

    Dude. Did you read this thread before you posted? You're supposed to complain that something is UP/OP and needs fixing.

    Not getting with the program is OP. Nerf.

    BTW, I bought the bundle. So far it is as fun as I hoped.
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  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    doomicile wrote: »
    The G-X, updated or not, is still a relic of a bygone era during STO's initial launch year. She's a decent tank with a little more firepower than, say a Star Cruiser, but tanking has absolutely no purpose or value in STO's current build and with current Rep and Fleet Gear and a variety of Doffs, escorts can keep themselves alive just fine without the need for a zombie healer.

    That goes for both PvE and especially PvP.

    Posting blind with no clue what thread you're in is OP, plz nerf. :rolleyes:
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,473 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Assuming everyone spends cash on fleet gear is OP, plz nerf.
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    bergins wrote: »
    Imma take advantage of the Zen sale and buy the dang 3-pack when it comes out. Even if it isn't OP, saucer sep, phaser lance and cloak will still be fun. Even if it is on the ugliest Hero Ship in the franchise.

    Fun is UP. Plz buff.

    EDIT: Added link, and now I'm supposed to let the kids help make guacomole. Aiee.... Maybe I'll finally spring for the T1 Connie finally...
    Just a followup: Taking advantage of both the Zen Sale AND the 3-Pack sale, I bought both the GalXthree and the TOS Connie. Having flown the T2 version in the sphere with some sucess, I must say I was disappointed at the T1's performance.

    It is still fun.

    The GalXthree (I like that name, just came to me) has done me well, as well. You can read about my exploits last night, I'm linking to avoid the "wall of txt is op" posts. Honestly, for the antique that it is, the ship is kinda OP...

    It is still fun.

    Fun is still UP. Plz buff the GalXthree OR the TOS Connie. At least put the TOS bridge on it (or offer it seperate from the $20 bundle that is otherwise useless to me...)
    Turning my thread into another Failaxy debate is OP, plz nerf
    Hrm... the OP can't control the thread?

    The OP is UP. Plz buff.
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Rylanadionysis' catchphrase getting randomly inserted into other threads is OP.

    Plz Nerf.
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  • damienvryce2damienvryce2 Member Posts: 428 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    bergins wrote: »
    Corrrecting is OP. Plz nerf.


    Don't do it. I know you want to but don't do it.

    Black text on black background is UP, plz BUFF.
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  • damienvryce2damienvryce2 Member Posts: 428 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    OT is OP, plz TROLL.



    Wait....what?
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  • rahmkota19rahmkota19 Member Posts: 1,929 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    As hard as this might be, especially since this thread has had a huge impact on the forums:

    Necro threads are OP, plz nerf.
  • spaceeagle20spaceeagle20 Member Posts: 971 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    bergins wrote: »
    Rylanadionysis' catchphrase getting randomly inserted into other threads is OP.

    Plz Nerf.

    Do you have a problem with that? :cool:
    rahmkota19 wrote: »
    As hard as this might be, especially since this thread has had a huge impact on the forums:

    Necro threads are OP, plz nerf.

    Not this one ... it's too fun :P
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Black text on black background is UP, plz BUFF.

    Yeah, but it was so much more fun when the forum had an actual black background.

    Darkness is UP, plz Buff.

    Fits my mood this AM, too.
    "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,473 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    rahmkota19 wrote: »
    As hard as this might be, especially since this thread has had a huge impact on the forums:

    Necro threads are OP, plz nerf.
    To be a necro, thread would have to be dead for more than 90 days, as I recall.

    Accusations of necromancy are OP, plz burn at stake. Medium-rare, for me.
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  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    UP is down, left plz right!
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    stoutes wrote: »
    UP is down, left plz right!
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    jonsills wrote: »
    To be a necro, thread would have to be dead for more than 90 days, as I recall.

    Accusations of necromancy are OP, plz burn at stake. Medium-rare, for me.

    Mmm... Bacon...
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  • rahmkota19rahmkota19 Member Posts: 1,929 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    To be a necro, thread would have to be dead for more than 90 days, as I recall.

    Accusations of necromancy are OP, plz burn at stake. Medium-rare, for me.

    That'll be 30 days. And this one has been dead for 34 days.

    Accusations of mistakes concerning necromancy are OP, plz apply cool water to stop the burning and bandage for the stake wound.
  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    And on the X Day, Cheesus said let there be Necro, and it was OP, plz nerf.

    =D
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  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    rahmkota19 wrote: »
    That'll be 30 days. And this one has been dead for 34 days.

    Accusations of mistakes concerning necromancy are OP, plz apply cool water to stop the burning and bandage for the stake wound.

    All post and no play, make Rahm a dull boy ;). -- Geintje! :P

    Nerftalk is OP, nerf with frikandellen!
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    rahmkota19 wrote: »
    Accusations of mistakes concerning necromancy are OP, plz apply cool water to stop the burning and bandage for the stake wound.
    I'll forgive you if you'll forgive me.

    BTW, I don't think you'll need more than some balm for chaffing from a "stake wound" since they just tie you to it. The rope probably did more to hurt than the stake. Oh, and fire.

    Oh, and something is OP. Plz go find it and Nerf it.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    bergins wrote: »
    I'll forgive you if you'll forgive me.

    BTW, I don't think you'll need more than some balm for chaffing from a "stake wound" since they just tie you to it. The rope probably did more to hurt than the stake. Oh, and fire.

    Oh, and something is OP. Plz go find it and Nerf it.
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    On phone right now, and watching video (waiting for it to load, that is) is painful, so forgive me for not knowing what you posted.

    On an unrelated note, I just had a bit of an epiffany:

    As I read Stoute's post about Rahm being a dull boy I thought "What if they are a girl?" Then, I thought "But thier avatar is a boy..." as is Stoutes, as is Jon Sills, as is Rylana... Wait...

    Rylana's a GIRL??? I'd ask when this happened, but I don't need that explained to me...

    Now, in my defense, I'm usually reading from my phone, and I identify forum regulars more by Avatar pic than by name (or by Sig pic, sorry Iconians) since names are small and harder to read most of the time. In my head, Rylana had always been "Ryan-something aka Willy Wonka".

    I'm a bit embarrassed to not have figured out that every captain in Rylana's sig have female names.

    Why does this all matter? I guess it doesn't. But still, Mind Blown.

    Now watch, I can be even more embarrassed when I'm told I'm wrong...
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  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    bergins wrote: »
    On an unrelated note, I just had a bit of an epiffany:

    Rylana's a GIRL??? I'd ask when this happened, but I don't need that explained to me...

    In my head, Rylana had always been "Ryan-something aka Willy Wonka".

    I'm a bit embarrassed to not have figured out that every captain in Rylana's sig have female names.

    Why does this all matter? I guess it doesn't. But still, Mind Blown.

    Now watch, I can be even more embarrassed when I'm told I'm wrong...
    On a different not, Rylanadionisis's name is based on greek words, see a quote I've found:
    Also note that my characters last name Dionysis is an accepted alternate spelling of the Greek god Dionysus/Bacchus
    If you look a bit further, Rylana's name actually has the word Rilana "Pure/clean" Dionysis "Dionysus" (son of Zeus, God of Wine, Merry making, theatre and ecstasy). In short, he's having lots of fun, while keeping it clean :D.

    Greek is Old, PLZ Egyptian.
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
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