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  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    daan2006 wrote: »
    Galaxy X OP hit with the nerf bat from hek

    Hek is Gal, plz bat or X
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    OMG the new fed ship is OP! Buff Klingon ships!

    (or not...)
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  • thegalaxy31thegalaxy31 Member Posts: 1,211 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The Galaxy is nerfed, please OP!
    I would love to visit this star in-game...or maybe this one!
    Won't SOMEONE please think of the CHILDREN?!
  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    arcjet wrote: »
    Dude, you're mixing things up. Big time.

    You're throwing broken game mechanics, regular and actual overpowered game mechanics, bugs and perceived broken/overpowered game mechanics into one pot, and try to cook some catchy, polemic phrase out of it.

    That's not very expedient.
    Or, let me ask - what was the intent of this thread in the first place? Just getting acknowledgment?

    If something is overpowered, it has to be brought back in line. There is no alternative. Otherwise everything will end up broken. Eventually.

    BUT - not everything that is perceived as 'OP' is actually overpowered. And some things are just bugs.

    Tbh the first couple of things the OP mentioned are indeed the reason why the game is too easy. This and the fact that it was easy way before the current power creep. Just not as obvious. Nowadays even a fully lobotomized braindead pug must try real hard to fail, once he's sufficiently 'geared' and has read through 1 or 2 guides.
    That's where the sh## starts hitting the fan, so to speak.

    I think I kinda understand the ulterior motives of the OP. As long as Cryptic refuses to implement and design some regular challenge, some difficult gameplay and endgame content, it's the bugs, broken game mechanics and flaws of the game that keep us entertained.
    It's pretty much the only way to get a challenge, if NPCs are affected.

    But imho that's the wrong approach. Don't settle for "come on! at least leave us the bugs!".
    Demand some proper game design that doesn't rely on broken stuff to provide challenge or entertainment.

    Regarding the BO3 - that's of course clearly not a bug, maybe a bit overpowered when double- or tripple tapped, probably working as intended.
    But what it definitely is - hard to control or balance. With massive stacking like in STO, a game is ultimately impossible to balance from a PvP point of view.
    If Cryptic really wants to promote PvP, then they have to get rid of ridiculously huge amplitudes of numerical values. And of overly exclusive/rare/expensive/musthave items. Otherwise it will always be perceived as 'unfair' or 'pay2win'.

    Well, that's it. My 2cents. Got a bit sidetracked. Sorry for that.
    Don't get me wrong. I'd like more challenge, I'd like more balance, I'd like more role-enforcement and teamplay / proper planning required. Just not 'replacement difficulty' in the form of badly designed or broken mechanics or whatnot, justified by a catchy phrase.

    Wall of text is OP, plz condense



    Also missing the point is OP, plz satire
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,481 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Nerfing is OP, plz nerf.
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  • paxfederaticapaxfederatica Member Posts: 1,496 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    Nerfing is OP, plz nerf.

    How many nerfs would a nerf-nerfer nerf if a nerf-nerfer could nerf nerfs?
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,481 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    How many nerfs would a nerf-nerfer nerf if a nerf-nerfer could nerf nerfs?
    It's herding the nerfs that's the real problem. You wind up all scruffy-looking.
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  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Your tighty whities are OP. Please nerf. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE NERF! :eek:
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Your tighty whities are OP. Please nerf. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE NERF! :eek:

    If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times:

    STAY THE HECK OUTTA MY UNDERWEAR DRAWERS, MONKEYBONE!!!!!

    The Nerf Bat's in the sock drawers anyways.

    Now, OUT!!!!
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  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    CAPS are OP, plz nerfffffff!!
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
  • spaceeagle20spaceeagle20 Member Posts: 971 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    ARC is OP , plz delete it
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  • rahmkota19rahmkota19 Member Posts: 1,929 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    stoutes wrote: »
    CAPS are OP, plz nerfffffff!!

    caps ARE NERF, PLZ op!!!!!
  • kantazo1kantazo1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    OP is OP please nerffff!!!!:D
    Seek and ye shall find. Yeshua
  • mewmaster101mewmaster101 Member Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Gal-R is OP, Please Nerf
  • osiabunnyosiabunny Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Game is to easy, please buff. Though only challenge I really get are from elite stfs if I am not with good players, and the Voth ships around the contested area. Sometimes I breeze through their fleet of ships other times they waylay me into oblivion. There's no real middle ground here. It's either easy or hard.
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,481 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Caps are UP, plz wear hats instead!
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  • kantazo1kantazo1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Nerf is OP so please nerf Nerf :confused::D
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  • phadrenphadren Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited February 2014
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Gal-R is OP, Please Nerf

    Actually, Gal-R is still UP. Gal-X is OP. But OP can be fun.

    In light of the fact that my day so far has consisted of unclogging 2 drains (and if you wonder what I unclogged from the drains, search back this thread for my post about Reactive Attachment Disorder, maybe Google it and imagine what inappropriate thing might be shoved down a bathroom drain) cleaning out 2 vents (had the shopvac out for the drain so while I was there), and chipping out a door that was frozen in ice (I'm just frikkin' DONE with winter!!!!!) and I still have to go to work, I think I could use some fun.

    Imma take advantage of the Zen sale and buy the dang 3-pack when it comes out. Even if it isn't OP, saucer sep, phaser lance and cloak will still be fun. Even if it is on the ugliest Hero Ship in the franchise.

    Fun is UP. Plz buff.

    EDIT: Added link, and now I'm supposed to let the kids help make guacomole. Aiee.... Maybe I'll finally spring for the T1 Connie finally...
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  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    bergins wrote: »
    Actually, Gal-R is still UP. Gal-X is OP. But OP can be fun.

    In light of the fact that my day so far has consisted of unclogging 2 drains (and if you wonder what I unclogged from the drains, search back this thread for my post about Reactive Attachment Disorder, maybe Google it and imagine what inappropriate thing might be shoved down a bathroom drain) cleaning out 2 vents (had the shopvac out for the drain so while I was there), and chipping out a door that was frozen in ice (I'm just frikkin' DONE with winter!!!!!) and I still have to go to work, I think I could use some fun.

    Imma take advantage of the Zen sale and buy the dang 3-pack when it comes out. Even if it isn't OP, saucer sep, phaser lance and cloak will still be fun. Even if it is on the ugliest Hero Ship in the franchise.

    Fun is UP. Plz buff.

    Ugh, not a good way to begin your day :mad:. Luckily it's friday. Plz Buff weekends.
    jonsills wrote: »
    Caps are UP, plz wear hats instead!
    Hats are UP, plz use helmets!
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
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  • thegalaxy31thegalaxy31 Member Posts: 1,211 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Galaxy's OP, please nerf!
    I would love to visit this star in-game...or maybe this one!
    Won't SOMEONE please think of the CHILDREN?!
  • crm14916crm14916 Member Posts: 1,536 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Everything that is UP plz Buff...
    Everything that is OP plz Nerf...

    :)

    Oh wait... no...

    Everything that is OP plz leave as is...

    Now, that's better...

    Remember that quote from "Incredibles"? "When everyone is super, no one will be..."
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    stoutes wrote: »
    Ugh, not a good way to begin your day :mad:. Luckily it's friday. Plz Buff weekends.


    Hats are UP, plz use helmets!
    Buff weekends?!?!? HECK NO!!! Kids' Feb Vacation this week, I want them back in school. NOOOOWWWW!!!!!

    And a helmet would not have kept my ears warm enough whie outside today. I'll keep my hat til it warms up. Then I'll trade it in for a Pimp Hat.
    Galaxy's OP, please nerf!

    NOT UNTIL I GET TO HAVE MY FUN, DAMMIT!!!!!
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  • legetdumarlegetdumar Member Posts: 263
    edited March 2014
    Players are OP!! Please NERF!!!:mad:

    signed,

    The Borg :(
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  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Turning my thread into another Failaxy debate is OP, plz nerf
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  • spaceeagle20spaceeagle20 Member Posts: 971 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    legetdumar wrote: »
    Players are OP!! Please NERF!!!:mad:

    signed,

    The Borg :(
    Lol
    Turning my thread into another Failaxy debate is OP, plz nerf
    Lmao....
    The Scimitar is OP, plz buff! :P:D
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  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Turning my thread into another Failaxy debate is OP, plz nerf
    Willy Wonka is UP, plz buff with Scrumdidilyumptious! (or chocolate).
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
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  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
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