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title says most of it. romulan faction needs new ships, most rommie birds are tac oriented, we've got 2 cruisers, wich imo are way worse than feds 'n klingon cruisers... only 1 science vessel...
i know this kind of thread has been made before, but... its kinda like the galaxy reboot thing, i think we need to get devs attention, so that they dont make what they did *aham, or not* to klingons long time ago...
and please dont start with -*rommie ships are op and they dont deserve more* :eek:
...but now seriously...
what do you think, and what kind of new rommie ships yould you like to see ingame...
...*avenger for rommies* -
i know this kind of thread has been made before, but... its kinda like the galaxy reboot thing, i think we need to get devs attention, so that they dont make what they did *aham, or not* to klingons long time ago...
and please dont start with -*rommie ships are op and they dont deserve more* :eek:
...but now seriously...
what do you think, and what kind of new rommie ships yould you like to see ingame...
...*avenger for rommies* -
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Klingons are up, it's their turn to get some fleet love.
Therefore, new sucky Romy ships should be added, and Scimitar removed.:D
Yes, I second this wholeheartedly.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
How about no.
Um, why not? (love that clip, by the way)
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Too many ships in the game. Reman designs look almost the same as Romulan designs.
Too many ships? Ships are the main moneymaker for Cryptic. If they stopped making ships, they'd stop making money. There will always be more ships coming into the game.
As for Reman designs looking like Romulan ones, I fail to see why that's a problem.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
'too many ships?' lol...
Maybe something from the era before the D'deridex *looks at Kamarag, looks at Ambassador*
The Dhelan is new to us, but supposedly, it's been around for awhile.
As I undestand the description it's more a contemporary of the Constitution refit or perhaps the Excelsior. It says the Dhelan was designed in the 23rd century.
My guess is the Dhelan is one of the first new ships the Romulans started to design after getting their hands on the D7, which was in 2269.
I also find it noteworthy that the impusle engines on the D'helan look a bit like they're Romulan copies of those used on the Constitution refit and Miranda.
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http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/www/ec/20/ec201db5046d7a71311f665563f96e881377716180.jpg
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The Ambassador class is a 24th century ship, albeit an early one while the Dhelan is probably from the Star Trek 1 era (2270's) given the impulse engine thingy.
It's not 100% clear from when the Ambassador class is exactly, the Ships of the Line claims 2320's which we may or may not accept.
Anyway there may be about half a century between the Dhelan and the Ambassador if we're generous.
So there's LOTS of room for new ships inbetween. Also, why would the Romulans only design one new ship when they were, per the description, preparing for a conflict with the Federation.;)
Otherwise, I've often thought it might be interesting if there was a Reman Stealth Carrier. Scorpions definitely appear to be a Reman design, and it could be interpreted that the Remans had a part to play in the Drone Ships(they were seen in Enterprise during those episodes). I think it's perfectly plausible that the Remans would develop a full-fledged carrier at some point for small craft deployment. Perhaps those smaller Reman ships we saw in that one comic (or even Dhelans) could be the 'frigates' that are specific to it.
Yes I would love to see the Shadow, Raptor, Griffin and Shrike from the Armada fame. Been in that community since 2001 and still mod for those games and those are some of the best Romulan designed ships I have ever seen. Puts some of the Cryptic designs to utter shame.
I agree, the Klingons could use some works ship wise, BOP's given a total overhaul a science ship line etc. Apart from a good science ship (not that horrible DYson ship) the Romulans are set at least for the next 12 months or so, so are the Federation, they have been set for like 18 months now and will be for the foreseeable future. Though I do think Romulan ships need to be hit with the nerf stick a bit. Playing my Romulan I find it so over powered and I am only using exchange bought gear on her compared to my mains who are using fleet gear.
Reman designs look a fair bit different. The Scimitar is supposedly a Reman design and doesn't look much like the Big D or Valdore. That being said why the hell did they add in the Scimitar? It goes against the idea of the Republic. Yes a Republic trying to sue for peace and leave the old hatreds behind will employ a weapon of mass destruction as their flagship. :rolleyes:
I would like to see a carrier too, however I would say no to a cloak on it. Yes the Romulans are the masters of the cloak, but I think it would be a tad too much to be able to cloak a carrier. It would be unfair on the KDF as their carriers can't cloak even though their other ships can, which would be my main objection to a cloaking carrier.
As it is I am hmming and harring over which c-store ship to get. The Scimmitar is just ugly to me and the tactical carrier is just too much like the HEC, which I don't like either. I would buy without a second thought a Rommy version of the Vesta line or a true carrier.
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I am not saying I can't see it, as I can. I know Romulans are the masters of the cloak, I was just thinking of a fairness restriction here, than a skill one. the KDF side has had enough kicks in the privates for anymore to be done to them.
On the fairness matter other possible restrictions could be:
- No cloaking with launched ships, they would have to be docked
- No bonus damage or movement speed when decloaking
- Cloaking fails at full impulse, the reason could be something along the line of the power needed to go full impulse means the cloak can't be active.
Even with fairness restrictions like those mentioned I would buy it. I'm loving the Vo'Quv, on my KDF character, even more than I liked the flight deck cruiser. Knowing me that most probably isn't even the correct spelling.
My Reunificationist wants to fly into battle in a cloaked Defiant class escort... she'd also like pips for her Fed-style uniform, because she doesn't have the shoulders to pull off those pauldrons, but that's a different discussion.
If not that, then co-developed ships - access to top tier ships with technological and design similarities to their allied faction, but with the obvious Romulan attributes and a definite Romulan flavour. That might be asking a lot though...
I didn't say cloak, I said Stealth - as in a carrier with passive sensor masking like the Hirogen that makes it hard to target unless you get close to it.
That said, I will point out that both the Ar'Kif and Scimitar have a hangar and are capable of cloak; the latter even comes with its own 'frigates'. I don't know if I buy the whole balance issue concern about cloaked carriers. Launched craft are quite fragile, a carrier would have to drop out of cloak to launch more wings, and a squadron of fighters flying in formation off in the distance would give away a cumbersome cloaked carrier's position. Cloak doesn't make a ship immune to being targeted or damaged, and carriers are neither agile nor evasive.
i think that rommies need more diversity :
for my fed captains, i can switch between 3 ships, but for my roms -> 1
the d'd is meh, and the others do almost the same things
real cruisers would be a good thing for the rommies; something like the excelcior, the heavy cruiser retrofit.
And also fed has the avenger, KDF the mogh; rommies should have a ship like that too. And please remove the scimitar from the c-store, when you do a stf with 2 scimitars, they take all the space, you can't even see your own ship. (sorry but i hate this big, ugly, piece of TRIBBLE).
and when we are at new romulus (in orbit), there are too much scimitars. this ship appears in 1 film and is not romulan.
It's Reman. And Remans are part of the Republic.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
i'm sure that one day, the tactical cubes will be playable: 15 weapons fore; 15 weapons aft, 5 deflectors, 50 console slots.
I would like to see them as well. Too bad people have such a stick up the rear that they take other companies to court for "infirngement". Hell, if they acknowledge who created it, the original designers should be flattered that other wish to use it!
With the exception of Romulan ships being overpowered, I agree.
I will answer that with a quote: "Speak softly, but carry a big stick." -Theodore Roosevelt.
A significant portion of the Republic's fleet is composed of Imperial Star Navy defectors, including Admiral Kererek and Commander Jarok. Defectors probably brought their superweapon ships with them, and the Republic's in no position not to make use of them.
Basically, they have them because the Star Empire had them before their crews defected, and one would be an idiot to turn down free dreadnoughts. You could even say most of them get stripped of the thalaron weapon, considering you need to run the three-piece to use it.
I don't see what the problem with a carrier cloaking would be. For one thing, the cloak doesn't work like it should in the first place. For another thing, I can launch hangar pets when I'm out of range of other vessels' sensors (try it in Pi Canis Sortie Alpha, for example and note the very satisfying results) -- although it seems a bit silly that I can see them and they can't see me when I'm not cloaked and a mere 16 m away from them (not that I'm complaining about that).
I don't think your suggestions would promote "fairness" at all. The last one is even a blatant contradiction of canon; while the T'liss in "Balance of Terror" could not cloak and use FTL simultaneously, that restriction was eliminated before "The Enterprise Incident" with the acquisition of D7 cruisers by the RSE.
And as for all the "Herp derp, Romulan ships are OP" some are spouting, they should bear in mind that not everyone has all the elite gear and some of us are Science officers, rather than Tactical (Rulers of DPS) or Engineering (Tank, Inc.).
There was a time when you could cloak in sector space and warp into a system while still cloaked. Too bad that was changed. For all intents and purposes, we might as well be back to the "cannot cloak and warp simultaneously".
Also, I choose to call it the Vas Hathem, rather than the T'liss. The original T'liss in this game was a shuttle. I wonder if they updated the name in the foundry?