Everything else about this event, the ship, the item giveaways, the FE, are all great and welcome additions to the game. The team has worked hard and given us a great mid-season content update. There are even some bug fixes in there.
But tying set items to a limited event like this, and requiring a grind for them is an insult to every Gold and Lifetime player who has more then one character.
We spend hundreds of dollars across multiple toons in this game, and rather then doing like you did with Sphere of influence and allowing us to earn the event reward as part of the FE with a reasonable time investment per toon, you make this into another miserable ship grind so that we can "earn" the items. Because heaven forbid you should reward the people who still pay for this game.
I can understand your monetizing plans requiring you to try and force us into the game as much as possible, and requiring you to take some kind of toll for items because of the free to play players. But it does not excuse what you are doing.
Want to make things more right with your paying customers?
Grant every Gold level player the extra 600 event marks as a one time thank you for keeping you in business. Since you can't justify giving things to the free to play people for free, that would at least allow you to not shaft the rest of us.
Honestly, you guys introduce a playable Dominion faction, and a staggered FE series like I suggested a few months back, with an appropriately epic Iconian apocalypse storyline, and maybe some fun little holodeck missions, possibly featuring Vic Fontaine, Captain Proton, [Player name], Secret Agent, and maybe Dixon Hill...yeah.
It'd be a big expansion, but I would bet my life savings and my college scholarship that you get record player numbers. Especially if you convince PW to skip the whole ARC bullcrap, or at least to make it optional.
I will admit that I have an ulterior motive: I want to play a Jem'Hadar soooooooooooooooo badly. Jem'Hadar are cool. And getting my orders from Weyoun or Odo would be just plain awesome.
I think having foundry missions, especially once you are able to arc them, integrated into the game mission arc a little better will go along way to filling more mission content. Updating foundry to provide a little more customization would help as well.
I believe adding the ability for missions (foundry or not) to be proximity triggered from sector space would go along way towards getting people to experience some of content that exists that they skip over due to following the main mission arc to end game. For example: your within 3 LY of a system where a foundry or other mission exists you can get hailed by the mission origin character or beam down to a planet and get a message someone would like to talk to you. I would love to see the exploration missions handled this way as well.
While developing bug fixes, mechanics, content, models, factions, textures, maps and official season episodes (all of which can be used to some extent in foundry) should be the primary focus of the development team.
Why? What have the Cardassians/Dominion got to do with the Delta Quadrant (the current focus of new content)?
I didn't mean about season 9 i was thinking about expansion and Gamma Quadrant and hoping that in this new expansion will be playable Cardassian/Dominion
As much as I want Cardassians and since they were ranked second behind Romulans in new factions wanted I hope they wait off. Romulans still have a few gaps in their ship roster that could be filled and this game needs new PvE and PvP endgame content before a new faction.
Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
As much as I want Cardassians and since they were ranked second behind Romulans in new factions wanted I hope they wait off. Romulans still have a few gaps in their ship roster that could be filled and this game needs new PvE and PvP endgame content before a new faction.
+1. However, that doesn't mean people won't stop bugging cryptic for it...
In the meantime, I do hope they get around to fixing some gameplay bugs and improving performance of their servers.
And doesn't this 'extra work' seem like a very bad idea to you right after what you liken it to, the winter event?
And if C-Store packs have always been planned (that I expect also transform, have the special cannon and switch Boffs), then they shouldn't be terribly OP compared to other 10 console ships, which makes their lesser versions as comparable to normal Tier 5 9 console ships. And normal 9 console ships have been given for no grind on previous anniversaries, which I found good.
So why the change and making all the festive events grinds? At least the anniversary (unlike the summer and winter event) has, up to this point, remained grind-free.
All of this.
i understand there's a special new event planned.
I'd have had no problem at all if the grindaversary, dyson ships, miniqs and all, had been put in there.
But to replace the anniversary event with this is, in my view, extremely disappointing.
Coupled with recent events such as the forum changes made with no thought whatsoever to accessibility, the removal of hourly events severely inconveniencing many small fleets, and the strong possibility that ARC may be in breach of EU law (and, btw, also possibly the safe harbour regs linked to in the ARC privacy statement)...it seems that Cryptic just dont want to accept any possibility of error.
Mistakes have been made and solutions constructively offered to no avail or even acknowledgement.
Feels to me like a culture of contempt for players is taking root at Cryptic. This is not, in my view, a good thing.
I'd have had no problem at all if the grindaversary, dyson ships, miniqs and all, had been put in there.
But to replace the anniversary event with this is, in my view, extremely disappointing.
Coupled with recent events such as the forum changes made with no thought whatsoever to accessibility, the removal of hourly events severely inconveniencing many small fleets, and the strong possibility that ARC may be in breach of EU law (and, btw, also possibly the safe harbour regs linked to in the ARC privacy statement)...it seems that Cryptic just dont want to accept any possibility of error.
Mistakes have been made and solutions constructively offered to no avail or even acknowledgement.
Feels to me like a culture of contempt for players is taking root at Cryptic. This is not, in my view, a good thing.
What does Cryptic have to do with Arc, or the Forum changes??...last i checked that was all PWE.
I wouldlike to see and expansion where the Romulans kick the feds and klings out of their home planet and the Romulans get their full race title. And get the full development.
I wouldlike to see and expansion where the Romulans kick the feds and klings out of their home planet and the Romulans get their full race title. And get the full development.
That will never happen because Cryptic does not want three-way PvP; thus all new Factions will tie into either the Feds or the KDF.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Well, when PWE sent a representative to these fora to do some customer relations you may have a point.
However, until then........
The forums are owned and run by PWE, Arc is run by PWE, and created by PWE not Cryptic devs , Branflakes , and the new guy are PWE employees....sooo yeah what does Cryptic have to do with Arc, and the forums again??
That will never happen because Cryptic does not want three-way PvP; thus all new Factions will tie into either the Feds of the KDF.
yep which is actually rather sad. personally I think 3 sided pvp would have been cool.
anyway this topic. 'in the near term'. a new faction could only be in the expansion which has been said to be late this year, towards the end of the year. so that would mean some time in the last quarter 4/4. we are in the 1st 2 months of the year atm, so 1/4. I don't get why people think near term means end of the year? that is as far away from near term as you can get
yep which is actually rather sad. personally I think 3 sided pvp would have been cool.
I am weird way I can understand why Cryptic did not make it that way. Imagine two minority Factions - assuming both Factions probably combined only account for 50% of the player-base - who both Cloak in PvP constantly ripping the Fed Faction to shreds. The Fed players would be screaming bloody murder on the forum daily and demanding Cloaks - rather then just whining about them like they currently do. At least this way the Fed-Roms somewhat balance out the Cloak issue.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I am weird way I can understand why Cryptic did not make it that way. Imagine two minority Factions - assuming both Factions probably combined only account for 50% of the player-base - who both Cloak in PvP constantly ripping the Fed Faction to shreds. The Fed players would be screaming bloody murder on the forum daily and demanding Cloaks - rather then just whining about them like they currently do. At least this way the Fed-Roms somewhat balance out the Cloak issue.
Or they could give the Fed ship innate cloak detection abilities and balance it out.
The decision not to make the Romulan faction stand alone had nothing to do with PvP, which only a small portion of players participates in. Other issues were on the table regarding this.
The decision not to make the Romulan faction stand alone had nothing to do with PvP, which only a small portion of players participates in. Other issues were on the table regarding this.
And you know this because you are a programmer and are familiar with the amount of work it would require to alter the existing STO engine to allow three-way PvP?
I have heard several podcasts, such as UGC podcast 109, where the three-way PvP was specifically cited as a problem. It was a road Cryptic did not want to go down.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
And you know this because you are a programmer and are familiar with the amount of work it would require to alter the existing STO engine to allow three-way PvP?
I have heard several podcasts, such as UGC podcast 109, where the three-way PvP was specifically cited as a problem. It was a road Cryptic did not want to go down.
lol It's an easy excuse for what they did. You can't be seriously believeing this?
Even if it was such a programming issue with the engine, which I highy doubt, there were workarounds for this. Like making a full Romulan faction and adjusting PvP queues to be fully mixed (like they're starting to do now) or make separate queues for FvsK, RvsF and KvsR.
I don't need to be a programmer at Cryptic to know bs when I see one. lol They couldn't maintain 2 factions, let alone 3. There's your reason, not PvP.
lol It's an easy excuse for what they did. You can't be seriously believeing this?
Even if it was such a programming issue with the engine, which I highy doubt, there were workarounds for this. Like making a full Romulan faction and adjusting PvP queues to be fully mixed (like they're starting to do now) or make separate queues for FvsK, RvsF and KvsR.
I don't need to be a programmer at Cryptic to know bs when I see one. lol They couldn't maintain 2 factions, let alone 3. There's your reason, not PvP.
As someone who has been playing MMOs since Ultima Online in late '97 I have seen engine limitations in scores of games over the years. It would not surprise me in the least that the STO engine was not programmed to have three-way PvP - especially when you consider how rushed STO was to meet the license deadline. Heck, the first 3 Season updates for STO in 2010 were full of material that was supposed to have been in the game at launch.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
The pvp argument doesn't hold up, cryptic cares less about pvp than it does klingons. Even if the engine did allow it, they wouldn't bother programming it, because it'd just attract more tears from a community that's already notorious for its loud lobbying.
A full faction would've been expensive, and obsoleted more established resources. Similar to refusing to replace or add, say, an airbag in a car because "hey, it still drives." Also, minifactions can buy non t5 c store things from their allied side, whereas a full faction would preclude those sales opportunities for the company.
There will never be a full third faction. There's not enough potential return from that investment.
The forums are owned and run by PWE, Arc is run by PWE, and created by PWE not Cryptic devs , Branflakes , and the new guy are PWE employees....sooo yeah what does Cryptic have to do with Arc, and the forums again??
Hair splitting and you probably know it.
Or does Smirk not speak for cryptic when he posts a dev blog.....
FvsK, FvsR, RvsK, etc was part of the problem mentioned in many of the podcasts thecosmic1 mentions, not an "easy solution." KDF queues, PVE and PVP, were already slow to dead, and a third faction would do nothing to help that, and would probably make it worse.
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Everything else about this event, the ship, the item giveaways, the FE, are all great and welcome additions to the game. The team has worked hard and given us a great mid-season content update. There are even some bug fixes in there.
But tying set items to a limited event like this, and requiring a grind for them is an insult to every Gold and Lifetime player who has more then one character.
We spend hundreds of dollars across multiple toons in this game, and rather then doing like you did with Sphere of influence and allowing us to earn the event reward as part of the FE with a reasonable time investment per toon, you make this into another miserable ship grind so that we can "earn" the items. Because heaven forbid you should reward the people who still pay for this game.
I can understand your monetizing plans requiring you to try and force us into the game as much as possible, and requiring you to take some kind of toll for items because of the free to play players. But it does not excuse what you are doing.
Want to make things more right with your paying customers?
Grant every Gold level player the extra 600 event marks as a one time thank you for keeping you in business. Since you can't justify giving things to the free to play people for free, that would at least allow you to not shaft the rest of us.
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I believe adding the ability for missions (foundry or not) to be proximity triggered from sector space would go along way towards getting people to experience some of content that exists that they skip over due to following the main mission arc to end game. For example: your within 3 LY of a system where a foundry or other mission exists you can get hailed by the mission origin character or beam down to a planet and get a message someone would like to talk to you. I would love to see the exploration missions handled this way as well.
While developing bug fixes, mechanics, content, models, factions, textures, maps and official season episodes (all of which can be used to some extent in foundry) should be the primary focus of the development team.
I didn't mean about season 9 i was thinking about expansion and Gamma Quadrant and hoping that in this new expansion will be playable Cardassian/Dominion
I normally would not do the legacy-type packs, but...if they ever come out with a Gorn pack of some sort, they can count me in.
Especially if I can finally throw rocks. :cool:
+1. However, that doesn't mean people won't stop bugging cryptic for it...
In the meantime, I do hope they get around to fixing some gameplay bugs and improving performance of their servers.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
All of this.
i understand there's a special new event planned.
I'd have had no problem at all if the grindaversary, dyson ships, miniqs and all, had been put in there.
But to replace the anniversary event with this is, in my view, extremely disappointing.
Coupled with recent events such as the forum changes made with no thought whatsoever to accessibility, the removal of hourly events severely inconveniencing many small fleets, and the strong possibility that ARC may be in breach of EU law (and, btw, also possibly the safe harbour regs linked to in the ARC privacy statement)...it seems that Cryptic just dont want to accept any possibility of error.
Mistakes have been made and solutions constructively offered to no avail or even acknowledgement.
Feels to me like a culture of contempt for players is taking root at Cryptic. This is not, in my view, a good thing.
What does Cryptic have to do with Arc, or the Forum changes??...last i checked that was all PWE.
Well, when PWE sent a representative to these fora to do some customer relations you may have a point.
However, until then........
Well, technically BranFlakes and Smirk are PWE employees, not Cryptic ones.
The forums are owned and run by PWE, Arc is run by PWE, and created by PWE not Cryptic devs , Branflakes , and the new guy are PWE employees....sooo yeah what does Cryptic have to do with Arc, and the forums again??
yep which is actually rather sad. personally I think 3 sided pvp would have been cool.
anyway this topic. 'in the near term'. a new faction could only be in the expansion which has been said to be late this year, towards the end of the year. so that would mean some time in the last quarter 4/4. we are in the 1st 2 months of the year atm, so 1/4. I don't get why people think near term means end of the year? that is as far away from near term as you can get
Or they could give the Fed ship innate cloak detection abilities and balance it out.
The decision not to make the Romulan faction stand alone had nothing to do with PvP, which only a small portion of players participates in. Other issues were on the table regarding this.
I have heard several podcasts, such as UGC podcast 109, where the three-way PvP was specifically cited as a problem. It was a road Cryptic did not want to go down.
lol
Even if it was such a programming issue with the engine, which I highy doubt, there were workarounds for this. Like making a full Romulan faction and adjusting PvP queues to be fully mixed (like they're starting to do now) or make separate queues for FvsK, RvsF and KvsR.
I don't need to be a programmer at Cryptic to know bs when I see one. lol
A full faction would've been expensive, and obsoleted more established resources. Similar to refusing to replace or add, say, an airbag in a car because "hey, it still drives." Also, minifactions can buy non t5 c store things from their allied side, whereas a full faction would preclude those sales opportunities for the company.
There will never be a full third faction. There's not enough potential return from that investment.
Hair splitting and you probably know it.
Or does Smirk not speak for cryptic when he posts a dev blog.....