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xcom43
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In all honesty they both due to the fact there download speed is so freaking slow even with a 10mb conntection.
I was looking for a copy of STO game launcher and blacklight retribution i fund a copy of sto's game launcher on my flash drive stick works fine with out issue.But could not find my blacklight retribution's installer must have deleted it at some point but any way.
I was able to find a download on one of the sites instead of using either steam or arc they both suck plain in simple i would rather have just the installer and wait for that.
Steam and Arcs download speed takes way too long even with a good system and good internet company.
I was looking for a copy of STO game launcher and blacklight retribution i fund a copy of sto's game launcher on my flash drive stick works fine with out issue.But could not find my blacklight retribution's installer must have deleted it at some point but any way.
I was able to find a download on one of the sites instead of using either steam or arc they both suck plain in simple i would rather have just the installer and wait for that.
Steam and Arcs download speed takes way too long even with a good system and good internet company.
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I dont - used to, but havent for years. As for arc - just another platform to launch PWE games, which the only one I use is STO. I run it, launch STO then terminate all the ARC processes (shortcut on my desktop to forcefully terminate arc). I dont need arc running all the time, or while im playing STO.
and my steam/arc have ZERO influence on my download speed...yours probably too. you can set both to use the full bandwith of your connection, you should check if you actually activated this option (it is a default anyway)
and where you left your blacklight retribution installer is hardly of any concern.
if this thread was intended to give feedback about arc/steam, you failed, since your info is either not true (at least for most people that use it) or irrelevant.
Yes and i am not going to pay for 50 mbit/sec when 10 does just as good if not better in many cases.
Well then how come when i was downloading on both Steam and Arc my speed was barely hitting kbit/sec and in my fire fox download it is hitting 1.3mbits/sec.
(And yes, it WAS on Steam back then.)
Had no real issues with Steam, aside from not being able to access my games for unknown reasons. However these only seem to occur like...once a year or so. I hear Steam is finally working on a means to access your games without checking in with Valve (play offline, etc.), but they've yet to fall through on this.
There was a noticeable launch time increase when using ARC on my old system, but the game performed normally afterward. I did not need to download through ARC since STO was already installed on my old system.
Download speeds through Steam for me are usually 1.8-2 mb/s.
OR
you were downloading patching more games simultaniously, and after you closed both, your bandwith was free again.
i can only guess here, because how you describe your problem with the 2 makes no sense from where i'm sitting.
Tell me a scenario where 10mbit/sec is better than 50mbit/sec--I could use the laugh.
If Steam and Arc are doing FTP downloads, they'll be slower because FTP is slower than HTTP, which is what Firefox is doing. The speed of a download depends on how the packets are routed and how quickly the serving side can meet demand for packets. Blaming a specific piece of software isn't the way to go since most of them use the same TCP/IP libraries.
Steam download times vary greatly depending on the time of day and the hammering their servers are getting. That and it could be to do with your routing to their servers. Try swapping servers, that can help sometimes.
I would imagine the same applies to ARC to probably more so as PWE are going to be way behind Valve in terms of servers.
Your ISP can also throttle your bandwidth if they so choose for a variety of reasons.
I used to have a 2mbps connection before my town got access to the fiber network, and I have friends that get less than that because they were further from the exchanges or had older crappier wiring to their houses . So no 10mbps is not the worst you can get in the first world by any stretch.
I only download Black light for the first time with arc and steam and it said on the timer it would take 2 days to complete.When i know i have a fast enough internet connection.now i have 5 mins left on download with fire fox.
honestly, i was curious about it, launched arc...started the blacklight retribution installer...it says 3h left wth my 8 mbit connection...
error must be on your end
maybe somebody else can confirm this too
Steam is fine. I downloaded STO using Steam and I don't recall how long it took, but I don't think it was long.
Arc sucks - both in principle and in practice. I've heard people say it's basically a copy-paste of Steam that only runs PWE games. Hence, i'll stick with Steam and get access to all my games.
I would rather download it independently.
Then use either Arc or Steam much better that way less spam.
We don't always get what we want. Personally I prefer Steam. I have had a very good experience with it. The downloads go very fast for me. Haven't used Arc enough to form an opinion.
Same here. Arc itself seems extraneous.
not much substance here to form an educated opinion about this new (still beta) tool.
sorry that it doesn't work for you, for whatever reason, for most people it just works fine...
Another huge benefit of Steam is being able to use the Steam Wallet to buy zen without having to jump through hoops to buy it through PWE. You don't get the bonus zen when you go through Steam, but it's a lot more convenient and far less of a hassle than using Arc or PWE's site.
But the thing you have to remember is; Steam only launches the game. They don't host the patches. That's all PWE side. Your download speeds are going to suck no matter which way you choose to launch the game.
My experience is that Steam causes me a little slowing running CO, and no issues with STO; meanwhile, ARC causes a period of about 2-3 minutes of extreme slowing on STO, and a constant problem with CO. In both cases, I'm willing to attribute it to the fact that I'm running on a four-year-old Toshiba Satellite laptop, model L505.
did you not adjust the download speed settings in Steam?
any launcher of any form has to be allowed to use the speed set, in other words, since every GB counts as money via your ISP, it's automatically set on steam and other launchers to use a default speed.
if you have DSL then tell it to use the DSL, if you have a cable connection, then tell it to use the cable.
it's all varied on speeds so you gotta make sure it's all checked out.
also, Steam is hands down the best digital distribution social and gaming platform on this earth.
Yes i did adjust every thing correctly but in any case i got the game and is all most done patching.
And I thought I was overdoing it with my 81 Steam games. Got anything good in your library?
Well, yes, many things
Assassin's Creed games, the Batman games, all the Command and Conquers, Crusader Kings II, Dishonored, Deus Ex, both Dragon Ages, Fallout 3 and Fallout: NV, all the GTA's, 5 Lego games, Saints Row 3 and 4, all of the Total War games, Civ 5, both Knights of the Old Republics, Empire at War, Skyrim, Oblivion, Star Wars Galaxies is still on there (sniffle), all the Tomb Raider games including the new one, both Witcher games, XCOM, and many many others.
I'm a big fan of Steam and haven't ever had an issue with it.
Edit: And STO, too
Edit 2: Totally useless but neat info.
Steam user since May 10, 2004
Over the last 9 years, you've spent 1305.1 hours playing, which includes 240 items, is valued at $3589.83, and requires 1117.2 GB
Nice collection you have. I've only been on Steam since Feb 3, 2006, but I've got quite a bit of time put into my games. The top five alone add up to 2,061 hours, and if I include everything else it only goes up to 3,377.4 hours.
I guess this just goes to show that Steam is pretty useful for keeping track of how much of your life you waste in front of a computer.:o
False premise, Steam doesnt suck. Arc might, havent tried it, but Steam downloads just fine even on a 1.0 GB connection. and screams on my 50gb connection at home.