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Jem'Hadar vs. clone troopers.
grandnaguszek1
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What would happen if an army of 8000 Jem'Hadar went against 8000 SW clones from the 501st legion in a full scale ground battle (no tanks, artillery, air or orbital support and no reinforcements). The battle shall be fought in a desert enviorment. The clones shall have an unlimited supply of food and water (don't ask how) and the Jem'Hadar have an unlimited supply of white.
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THIS ARMOR DOES NOTHING! WHY DO THEY EVEN WEAR IT?
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
To be a plastic armor they would have to include plastic. The Clone armor is just CGI^^
And the Jem'Hadar have nothing.. or well maybe leather instead of plastic.
But as a guess I'd go with the Jem'Hadar, too.
That were the Storm troupers.
But those are still capable to beast Starfleets redshirts. They wouldn't hit them, but the Redshirts would die anyway.
No, Clone Troopers were shown to be quiet capable.
I have to agree with this. Jems are FAR more replacable. Put the two armies against each other with equal manpower, and the Jems would have legions of reinforcements ready before the battle even starts. They'll win by numbers.
So the clone troopers weren't the A-Team wannabes. Good to know.
Actually they are mandalorians.
They still succumb to clone cellular degradation, so their skills get even worse each time they are cloned. Since Jem'Hadar are quick breeding, reach peak physical condition in a matter of days and retain that level of skill all their lives, they would decimate the 501 in a few weeks of fighting and destroy all subsequent 501's that come, the fights getting easier and easier as time goes on.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
Did you even read the original post? I said no reinforcements for either side.
Thor arguments might be generally true. But the question is how would an army if clones at their best hold up against an equally numbered army of jem'hadar at their best in one battle.
Long time issues like reproduction, degeneration, breeding times ect do not matter in this context.
And IF you desperately want to take that into account: the clone army has by far superior numbers to every Star Trek army taken together, they after all, hold an entire galaxy.
Also the clone army is much more focused on ground confrontation. Also they have ground based war machinery, such things have never been shown in the dominion war.
So Jem'Hadar, with superstrength, more effective weaponry, and just more awesomeness, would win in a landslide.
Wouldn't matter. The 501 is a small batch. In order to make 8000, it would require you to clone the 501. And copies of a copy are always worse that the first copy. So they'd be even worse.
Face it, 501 gets blown away any way you slice it.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
Yes, I did. But it didn't compute -- they're all clones!
I admit the Jem'Hadar can have their asses handed to them by Klingons. It has to be expected, though -- they were KLINGONS! I think if, in some way, Jems and Klinks are equals in battle, then the clone troopers wouldn't stand a chance.
This is assuming they have a steady supply of Ketracel White. Or, these could be those rare non-addicted Jems that do exist even though they aren't supposed to.
Whatever the case, my money is still on the Jems. They don't care if they die and they will take out as many of their enemies as possible before they do. They are skilled on ranged and close combat weapons, and obviously proficient in hand-to-hand combat. They were literally designed to be the perfect soldier.
Jems still win.
See what going on? Ha, my money is on the clone troopers. They only defeated an army of over 2 quadrillion droids across an entire galaxy.
Their aim would still be off and the Jem could and would march through. Not to mention Jem' Hadar have natural cloaking abilities, so they'd not only march across unscathed, they'd do without the clones even knowing they were there.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
Clones are trained in advanced martial arts. They are also trained since birth in taking fortresses in small groups of four, marksmanship, and are able to easily adapt to any situation.
Yup. Star Wars has no cloaking technology as of the Clone Wars era. As such, they would have no idea how to detect a shrouded enemy. So, 501 ends up dead without a single alarm being raised.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
Clone troop armour would deflect Jem'Hadar handweapons, but not sure how it would handle their blasters...
Do clone trooper helmets provide vision other than visible light? If so, that may overcome the Jem'Hadar's ability to shroud...
I think with enough space for tactics, the 501st would take out the Jem'Hadar from a distance. If it came down to hand to hand, I don't think they would be so lucky, and think it may go to the Jem'Hadar.
It certainly wouldn't be an easy victory for either side...
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
if captain rex has anything to say on the matter, he would likely take out entire companies of jem'hadar if he could with his squad. having fives on the side with other troopers, rex always thinks on his feet. shouding/cloaking is just light bending, with the right frequency and wavelength or whatever they got with the visors on their helmets, the clones would spot the jem'hadar anyways.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Having cloak and not being able to detect cloak are actually two cups.
Also: Do they have a Jedi-General?