The title says it folks!:D It can be from the Terran Empire or Alliance faction! Personally I say mirror skins for all ships...I mean look at Fed captains..they look more Terran/ punk/ stripper then they do explorer...that's just me though;)
Exactly! they had both the Gal dread X mirror skin AND excelsior during the mirror event CLEARLY if PWE could do that then it should be easy for them to put out for players who want to be different..or if your a RPer..rp out a mirror fleet
I want more Mirror KDF ships for the sole reason that the material selection for KDF ships is SO effing limited and I want a new option for them. Something lighter and not a shade of rust red, brass or green :mad:
Mirror Birds of Prey, perhaps.
More Mirror Science Vessels for Feds, since there's now a Mirror Heavy Cruiser Retrofit (and is now far cheaper and more useful than grabbing the HCR from the Starbase).
A Mirror Tacscort and Mirror Heavy 'Scort, too while we're at it.
Mirror Exploration Cruiser as a Carrier/Cruiser.
Hah! No. And a T4 Flight Deck Cruiser? How could that be useful? Better to sell mirror Gal-R that's fixed in boff seating/console distribution.
None... mirror universe plays far too large a role in STO
I agree from a lore standpoint. The mirror-universe was an awesome one-time gimmick in TOS, but was way overdone later on and especially feels completely out of place in STO.
From a gameplay standpoint, the mirror ships are meant to swap the boff/console layout with a skin you like, so I'd like a mirror Galaxy Class that is akin to the mirror Negh'Var, sporting 3/3/3 consoles and a more science-y BOFF layout plus one ensign tac ability
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Much as I'd like a mirror armitage and Excelsior, there is not a chance in hell PWE is going to make mirror versons of C-store/fleet ships. Not going to happen.
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Much as I'd like a mirror armitage and Excelsior, there is not a chance in hell PWE is going to make mirror versons of C-store/fleet ships. Not going to happen.
Dude, the Mirror Dhelan? Was a C-Store ship. The Mirror Heavy Cruiser? is a Fleet-bought-only Ship.
Armitage and Excelsior? Can certainly happen. Though, I wouldn't put it past them to neuter the Excelsior to remove Transwarp.
Hm, a Mirror Defiant or Sao Paulo would be interesting. Maybe a dark and aggressive skin and the Galaxy-X or Venture-X.
I'd love those to be a bit more different then just yellow stripes.
I agree from a lore standpoint. The mirror-universe was an awesome one-time gimmick in TOS, but was way overdone later on and especially feels completely out of place in STO.
From a gameplay standpoint, the mirror ships are meant to swap the boff/console layout with a skin you like, so I'd like a mirror Galaxy Class that is akin to the mirror Negh'Var, sporting 3/3/3 consoles and a more science-y BOFF layout plus one ensign tac ability
This makes a lot more sense than a crazy uberGalaxycarrier. I'd love to have a Science version of the Galaxy (D). You'd have to do something make it a little less strong than the specifically Science-oriented ships like the Vesta/Sci-destroyers, though, I think. Might have to make it 3/3 weapons instead of 4/4, since even the sci destroyers are 3.5/3. A Sci Commander Galaxy (D)? I drool.
Maybe they'll address this when the level cap goes to 60...
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It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
Dude, the Mirror Dhelan? Was a C-Store ship. The Mirror Heavy Cruiser? is a Fleet-bought-only Ship.
Armitage and Excelsior? Can certainly happen. Though, I wouldn't put it past them to neuter the Excelsior to remove Transwarp.
again I doubt the excelsior the tier 5 RA version. Armitage, might, but it won't be a carrier. Trust me they are making too much money on those ships or for people being in fleets to grind it the hard way.
Now a Galaxy, defiant, nova or a few others, those I could see happening. Ships that cost 2000+ zen, not so much. And if they did give a mirror galaxy, wouldn't be the saucer sep version for damn sure just like the mirror promethius doesn't do MVA.
If we got a mirror gal-X, probably wouldn't come eqquiped with the lance, and might not do cannons. Again don't know but straight up just mirror versions of them, HIGHLY doubt it.
Like a mirror Avenger, probably goes under the header of not a chance in hell, same with the Mogh, or oddys or bortas.
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again I doubt the excelsior the tier 5 RA version. Armitage, might, but it won't be a carrier. Trust me they are making too much money on those ships or for people being in fleets to grind it the hard way.
Now a Galaxy, defiant, nova or a few others, those I could see happening. Ships that cost 2000+ zen, not so much. And if they did give a mirror galaxy, wouldn't be the saucer sep version for damn sure just like the mirror promethius doesn't do MVA.
If we got a mirror gal-X, probably wouldn't come eqquiped with the lance, and might not do cannons. Again don't know but straight up just mirror versions of them, HIGHLY doubt it.
Like a mirror Avenger, probably goes under the header of not a chance in hell, same with the Mogh, or oddys or bortas.
For the mirror Galaxy, they could do what they did with the mirror patrol escort and allow it to use the prime universe ship's console. As for a mirror Gal-X, I'd buy it from the C-Store if it came with the lance (even though it doesn't do much).
NX-class, Constitution-class (TOS), and Oberth-class.
But I think instead of separate vessels, they should just create a "Mirror Universe Shield Array" that gives the mirror visuals to any ship that equips it.
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Don't care if the 'debate' has been ended :P I'd KILL to see the Ambassador with the Mirror skin ^^ hell! I'd even just buy the skin - maybe that's an idea! A skin-pack for the Excelsior, Galaxy and Ambassador classes with the mirror universe emblems on it that way Cryptic can still get teh big buckses for BUYING the ships - and we get the sa-weet I.S.S. load-outs
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To me this would be a great time to get the Galaxy a great tactical boost. Since the Empire is more Military Driven.
Lastly this would also be a great way to introduce the Typhoon as well. Since they used them from the Dominion story line.
As the KDF, I would like to see the lower level Bird of Preys and Raptors making it. Be a good way to get them at higher levels.
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Mirror Exploration Cruiser as a Carrier/Cruiser.
Changes from the bog standard Tier 4 (Failaxy) Exploration Cruiser:
Turn Rate and Inertia Rating left unchanged because they are already Carrier Wallowing Poor quality in the base ship hull.
DONE.
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Immortal BOff Skills combo for Ground
Mirror Birds of Prey, perhaps.
More Mirror Science Vessels for Feds, since there's now a Mirror Heavy Cruiser Retrofit (and is now far cheaper and more useful than grabbing the HCR from the Starbase).
A Mirror Tacscort and Mirror Heavy 'Scort, too while we're at it.
Hah! No. And a T4 Flight Deck Cruiser? How could that be useful? Better to sell mirror Gal-R that's fixed in boff seating/console distribution.
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3 3 3 layout instead of 4 3 2 Consoles
Replace Lt. Comm Engineering Boff with Lt. Comm Tactical Boff and make the Ensign Engineering into an Ensign Science
Mirror D'deridex Warbird Battlecruiser:
Replace Lt. Comm Tac with Lt. Sci, replace Ensign Universal with Lt. Tac (Could be interesting)
Console layout: 2 3 4
Mirror B'rel Bird-of-Prey Retrofit:
Console layout: 1 4 4 instead of 3 3 3
Boff Layout: Commander Universal Lt. Universal Lt. Commander Science Lt. Universal
**Comes with improved flanking. Lacks Enhanced Battle Cloak.
I agree from a lore standpoint. The mirror-universe was an awesome one-time gimmick in TOS, but was way overdone later on and especially feels completely out of place in STO.
From a gameplay standpoint, the mirror ships are meant to swap the boff/console layout with a skin you like, so I'd like a mirror Galaxy Class that is akin to the mirror Negh'Var, sporting 3/3/3 consoles and a more science-y BOFF layout plus one ensign tac ability
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Dude, the Mirror Dhelan? Was a C-Store ship. The Mirror Heavy Cruiser? is a Fleet-bought-only Ship.
Armitage and Excelsior? Can certainly happen. Though, I wouldn't put it past them to neuter the Excelsior to remove Transwarp.
I'd love those to be a bit more different then just yellow stripes.
It is cannon too.
They had to go and waste the good one on the mirror heavy...
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Now THAT would be sweet...
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A mirror D'Kyr, with a tac slant, and a tactical support craft...
Somebody, make it happen!
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This makes a lot more sense than a crazy uberGalaxycarrier. I'd love to have a Science version of the Galaxy (D). You'd have to do something make it a little less strong than the specifically Science-oriented ships like the Vesta/Sci-destroyers, though, I think. Might have to make it 3/3 weapons instead of 4/4, since even the sci destroyers are 3.5/3. A Sci Commander Galaxy (D)? I drool.
Maybe they'll address this when the level cap goes to 60...
It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
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again I doubt the excelsior the tier 5 RA version. Armitage, might, but it won't be a carrier. Trust me they are making too much money on those ships or for people being in fleets to grind it the hard way.
Now a Galaxy, defiant, nova or a few others, those I could see happening. Ships that cost 2000+ zen, not so much. And if they did give a mirror galaxy, wouldn't be the saucer sep version for damn sure just like the mirror promethius doesn't do MVA.
If we got a mirror gal-X, probably wouldn't come eqquiped with the lance, and might not do cannons. Again don't know but straight up just mirror versions of them, HIGHLY doubt it.
Like a mirror Avenger, probably goes under the header of not a chance in hell, same with the Mogh, or oddys or bortas.
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For the mirror Galaxy, they could do what they did with the mirror patrol escort and allow it to use the prime universe ship's console. As for a mirror Gal-X, I'd buy it from the C-Store if it came with the lance (even though it doesn't do much).
Otherwise, Mirror K'Tanco. I always liked the design of it.
But I think instead of separate vessels, they should just create a "Mirror Universe Shield Array" that gives the mirror visuals to any ship that equips it.
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