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Is the klingon-federation war coming to end?
startrek1234567
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At the end of the FE it seemed to me that the klink-fed war is going to come to an end.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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None of them at all.
Quite a few devs have indicated that it is going to come to an end.
While I might be all for finishing what Cartwright started, all that's typically needed to stop a war with the Federation, is to stop attacking the Federation. But the Klingons think we need to apologize to them for not taking them seriously about the Undine threat; for being unreasonable. And until we do, they'll blaze a trail of bloody hissy fits across the stars, as would be the reasonable response, I guess...
No but seriously...
Really...
These Dyson spheres can move.
And explode with a force that'll make the great plume of Agasoria shrivel up with timid inadequacy...
And the Klingons reeeaaally want a Dyson sphere.
So...
Does Section 31 have a suggestion box, you think?
Yet another example of how sarcasm doesn't work over the internet.
Small Craft Arena launching at the same time that allows mixed factions to fight together for the first time.
Tim Russ being paid by Cryptic to say that Tuvok is going to mediate peace talks.
Consistent foreshadowing throughout the game lore that Chancellor J'mpok isn't all that popular anymore.
Dyson Joint Alliance, Omega Force, Nukara Task Force, courting New Romulus on both sides.
Yeah, pretty sure this war is going to end soon.
Nevertheless, when they do it I just hope that they will tie some story arc for both the Fed & KDF based on resolving the Undine infiltration in the Federation, hunting down the spies and setting the stage for a renewed peace treaty rather than just tell us out of the blue or through a dev.blog that it's over.
The story they started about the Fed-KDF conflict needs to have a proper conclusion, especially now after the Tuvok FE where it become blatantly obvious that there are Undine infiltrated everywhere in Starfleet. The Federation's ignorance led to this moment where the Undine now have a working gateway to transfer forces to the Alpha/Beta Quadrants.
And that's why that story needs a few missions that will deal with purging the Undine from the Federation, because as it is there's no point of a KDF-Fed peace treaty in order to fight the Undine, when one of the mentioned parties is pretty much completely manipulated by Undine.
Which is itself amusing. Study one sphere for 40 years, its just a scientific curiousity. Study a second sphere made by the same guys from the same technology, and they're building new ships out of that tech a few weeks later. Um waitaminute....
As for the war coming to an end, does seem that way. Maybe not love-and-friendship (certainly not with Koren or Shon behaving how they are at the end of the FE), but I imagine that if the Federation starts making a point of shooting at Undine, some Klingons are least will be "Kahless above, TOOK you long enough!" and mellow out (mellow by Klingon standards anyways). And of course given the location of New Romulus, the Republic will be only too happy to help negotiate, if not peace, then at least a ceasefire.
How ironic, after generations of the Romulans trying to drive the Federations and Klingons apart, that they would now by trying to push the two back together.
I hope not.
I am tired of the KDF, during times of so called peaceful interaction for joint stf''s, that continually raids and plunders Federations ships and outposts and basically acts like pirates with he help of the Orions.
This must end..this so called cold war with the KDF.....there must be a culling of the Klingons and their so called defense force that is not defensive at all.
They have no honor as a whole.They are a blight as were the Romulans.
The Romulans are now humbled as they are the alien trash of the alpha quadrant. Their home world is dust, they are a split faction and do not have a true leader.....
There needs to be repercussions for this blatant war mongering by the Klingons and their lap dogs.
That said, I love the return of the Undine, and the manner in which it was carried out.
We need some more high-level challenging STFs; perhaps the Undine will fit that bill.
Its like the film, Independence Day. The USA had an Alien Ship for 50-odd years, but all the cool stuff has happened in the last little while since it was activated. Same principle in game. Nothing was active in the sphere until we activated the gateways... (Though as I recall, all gateways everywhere were meant to be activated simultaneously, so why is the one connecting the spheres dormant until we break the sphere's engine)?
But won't this kind of throw a spanner in the works for the PvEs that have hostile interaction between the two?
Though i would hope that peace would be a good oppertunity to replace some of the aging PvE content
I'm just going to sit back and laugh, and laugh, and laugh, when J'mpok after using this entire "The Federation is infiltrated by honorless shapeshifters looking to weaken us with pointless war. This is unacceptable! Let's pointlessly go to war with them!" schtick turns out to have been against cooperative initiatives like Omega Force and the Dyson Joint Command all along, and grows a third leg right at the summit...
I'm just going to nudge the Romulan ambassador beside me and tell him "This is even better than that time when admiral Zell turned out to be an Undine right after she made me slaughter dozens of... oh, ah, uhm... Epohhs! Them Undine be crazy, amiright!? Hahah! Good talk, gotta go!"
That'd explain why Dr. Eric Cooper gave off all signs he was an Apple user but wasn't seen with an iPad in the mission.
Spoken like a true Starfleet officer. :rolleyes:
I don't understand what is there to laugh about? Maybe you'll enlighten me? Even if it turns out to be like you said, is the Federation not infiltrated by Undine, or this last FE was just Tuvok's dream?
Another prime example of what the Federation has turned into these days.
Spoken like a true Ferengi war profiteer! :P
Damn Undine.
As the FEs make us cooperate so often its really better to end this "war". It makes little sense.
I'm not sure where you're getting in the Featured Episode that the Federation-Klingon War is coming to an end. It was specifically stated that negotiations of what to do with the Dyson Sphere was going to be very difficult because both powers were still at war, despite the makeshift "alliance" against the Voth.
I actually liked seeing the cracks of this "alliance" when you had representatives of the Klingons, Federation, and Romulan Republic bickering to the edge of breaking the alliance.
However, with the advent of the Undine, maybe the Federation will see once and for all how terribly wrong they were in burying their heads in the dirt like an ostrich at the mention of Undine infiltration, despite what the Klingons were finding. If reconciliation can occur and a new, more lasting alliance occurs, then so be it.
But I for one have no problem with the continuation of the war, and was glad to hear official game storyline specifically stating the war is ongoing.
The Klingons and Federation at war... that is classic Star Trek :cool:
In the end the war just makes no sense, and why have it? So many other threats. We got eh borg, undine, dominion, voth, tholians, and maybe even the Iconians. The war never seems like its happening anyway. i fly past klingons in my fed toon all the time without any event. I parked my ship NEXT to a klingon one without violence.
Also there really is no evidence that either the feds or klingons are winning, no more territory has been gained by the klingons or feds at all.
I think its time to end the war in Season 9. Heck, i dont even remember what started the war.
maybe then id be ok with a end to the war and only then, no more of them looking down on us. and as far as J'mpok being undine I think he is as well other wise we wouldn't be fighting =with the Voth we would have sent staas to work out an alliance with them. I mean the Voth don't have a beef with any other species other than the humans since the ancient origin theory is the problem with earth and humans. Klingons are not from earth so to the Voth we are just another species like the Kazon or what ever other species in the delta quadrant they know of.
So the Voth would make decent allies for the Kdf none of our member species conflict with the doctrine they have. we both hate species 8472. and we both dislike the federation for different reason but still a shared goal. stop the feddy bears from spreading their dribble to others.
Why not just have a permanent KDF team and permanent Fed team each developing their own stuff?
And shpoks: The joke is irony.
I've been seeing Klingon players going on about the Federation owing the KDF some form of apology, for not taking them seriously enough on the matter of the Undine. For condemning their invasion of the Gorn homeworld though they were proven right on their leadership being Undine. A group of shapeshifters with as their main goal to sow chaos and disorder across the quadrant, wearing out all the major powers in wars against one another. And by launching into a war against the Federation, they still play right into the Undine's hand. Either cause Klingons are really, really, REALLY stupid, or are being deliberately riled up by some Undine spymaster who found a way to turn the Klingons knowing the truth about their infiltration to their advantage. Make it a matter of honor, vengeance if you will, before common sense and survival. If you stop to think it through for even just one second, it's a bad idea. Kind of wish the Romulans found out about them instead.
So yes, methinks J'mpok doth protest too much.
And I laugh to keep from crying.
Come see, come all, the Klingon-Federation war: The single greatest puppet show in the galaxy! (Tickets not available in Tau Dewa and Gamma Orionis, at this time.)
You mean the Klinks and Feds were at war at some point?</sarcasm>
As I said the last several times this came up, Cryptic basically let the Third Klingon-Federation War sputter to a pointless halt after B'Vat died. There was never any official declaration of peace but they're working together every single time you turn around.
**** or get off the pot, willya?
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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As for a needless war. I say it is not needless from the Klingon point of view. you are trying to apply human Western morals and values to an alien species. that believes dyeing in battle for a cause that is seen as just, is honorable and guarantees their place in the afterlife.
Personally I just don't like the federation they are way to liberal for my taste so I play KDF. at least for the most part they say what they think and whispers are considered rude.
Not that the war exists annoys me, but the circumstances of what is going on in the war is annoying me.
The need to either heat it up or make peace. This fighting each other while still working jointly doesn't make sense.
Please make a feature series on how this is going to bring peace, like how the Dominion War united the major powers of the known space, or escalate the war and breaking off all the alliances and task-force.
Logistically, with Cryptic, I think they'll go for peace, because so many of the PvE events are collaboration between the two sides. It would take way too much effort to change them.
One thing regarding a certain previous complaint on the 40 years the FED have over the TNG Dyson Sphere,, before the new Sphere was activated, the old TNG Sphere was dormant and there was no priority to study it. There probably wasn't any Omega there. So I doubt the FED would pool that much resource into it, especially during that 40 years, the Dominion War was going on, the Borg tried to invade again, and lastly the political instability caused by the destruction of Romulus. But when the new Sphere was discovered and was active with aliens with hostile intent trying take it over, then the new Sphere became top priority. That is how in so little time, they can churn out new ships and tech. They have 3 sets of civilizations working on it non-stop.
Another curious question regarding the Voth. They always refers to our factions as mammalia, yet they seems to ignore the existence of the Gorn on the KDF side and Saurian on the FED side. What's with that?