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All ships need a Structural Integrity boost
galilleos
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With all this power boost out there now Cryptic really needs to boost the hulls of all ships except for the escorts (Fed, Klingon, Rom).
There is so much bleedthrough now its ridiculous, I can kill someone with my vaper (romi escort) in 2 seconds no matter what ship they are flying. Should 1 escort really be able to one shot a sci vessel, cruiser or carrier ? no it should not.
Did a spitfire manage to destroy a battleship in one pass by ? no
those ships really need much more hull.
There is so much bleedthrough now its ridiculous, I can kill someone with my vaper (romi escort) in 2 seconds no matter what ship they are flying. Should 1 escort really be able to one shot a sci vessel, cruiser or carrier ? no it should not.
Did a spitfire manage to destroy a battleship in one pass by ? no
those ships really need much more hull.
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Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
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rom vaper, lol no, engineer cruiser im sure.
Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
This is not a nerf escorts thread, and I play all roles in pvp, if you dont have anything constructive to post then ignore this thread.
Actually the OP flies mainly sci/sci and tacscort. I think you'll notice that he said he shouldn't be able to do it, not that it shouldn't be able to kill him.
I think youll find that I dont take orders very well.
For one thing I completely disagree with your OP, resistances are so insane right now that bleed is literally the ONLY THING that can kill a zombie (other than perhaps a 4 on 1 ganksquad)
For another escorts have been supplanted by science magic and bfaw bullstuff (oh yes the bfaw dem hax will be back today since the crit is fixed)
About the only thing left to do is play spy vs spy with the occasional zombie thrown in to muck up the works.
The last thing we need is "tougher" ships.
Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
But such a sweeping change would be far too impractical to implement on the game as-is. People tend not to appreciate sweeping changes.
Off topic, but there have been a few times when a single torpedo sank a ship. Look at the Taihou - or even the Akagi, crippled to the point of being scuttled by one bomb hit. The Princeton, damaged to the point of sinking from a single bomb from a single dive bomber.
Not to mention escorts are more analogous to destroyers/submarines than aircraft, which are more like pets.
Okay, I'll stop now.
Everyone paying attention knows that escorts are pretty survivable due to defence bonuses and the ability to stack hull and shield resists to 90% of the effectiveness of larger ships (Aux2Damp anyone?). And that's before we start to worry about Roms with valdore consoles and decloak defence bonuses, boff crits and singularity powers.
I'd rather deal with romulans or at least consider boosts on a faction level before nerfing or boosting anything else.
Ofcourse it can happen if you get lucky or you catch your opponent off guard but not 90% of the time.
Some boost should be needed to enjoy more a gameplay.
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actaully he didnt one shot a planet, he drilled a hole into vulcan and sent a blob of red matter down to cause a chain reaction in the planets core. so he needed atleast 30 mins to an hour to destroy a planet. :P
Don't get me wrong, i'm in the "someone has to die" camp, but a Doffed BO from an Elachi DBB with DEM and rep passives can tear through any hull even if they're fully buffed.
I'm not sure if more hull hp would help as much though. It could even make more problems because hull regeneration is % based. Remember when they overbuffed leadership? An unkillable fed cruiser with overcapped FAW wouldn't really help the game.
As for a fix? IDK, but brainstorming from the community on it would be great
CritH bonuses granted by Operative/Superior Operative could stand a nerf. So could the Infiltrator stats.
Wasn't it easier to swallow when it was a 25k bop vs a 50k cruiser?
Now the 50k Rom warbird attacks, kills, and flees with nigh impunity
And I know the op in game. Hardly a master vaper and I doubt he'd dent a renim let alone get past ANYONES voth shield or backstep. That being said, I'd be all for an up to 4x increase in hull across the board. If I can do 1 million dmg in one pass, the highest ship HP can be 200k
People in glass houses....
Nah u panda hax, don't touch my dmg
I always said nerfing dmg never results in good gameplay. Boost heals, hulls, and specials evade before nerf dmg please
Your genius logic does 0 argument points to min. Mins hackback rebuttal kills ur dog and ur family for 3 generations
^typical warbird vs Fed sci
Remember when I one shot tricobalt u thru full shields. Nerfed the next day. Who won? Not sto
I'm reminded of the PvE threads when cruiser captains would bemoan their low HPs, and they would argue endlessly that their cruisers would be competitive if only it had more HPs.
But I'm still noob in this game so...^^
So maybe step back and come up with something constructive to post or let us noob players come up with something....
i think u missed where i agreed with you that more hull hp is good for the game. you should be talking about how uncounterable rom cloak alphas just doubled in frequency.
rom cloak tet cascade = tears.
dont go looking at the dmg side of things blaming that, cus there are other solutions to just "taking the load". but in the end, plenty of room for more hp. when the proton barrage can kill people in one hit unbuffed (****ty people maybe) somethigns wrong (not with proton barrage tho)
I know right?
So you're left with only little tings like, COUGH COUGH FAW COUGH, which is why no one can agree on what even the problem is. It's because it's the sum of a lot of little problems.
Bleedthrough has gotten the same way. When the Elachi weapons came out I got insta-vaped through all my buffs in a CnH so I asked in OPvP what happened and I got a crazy amount of different answers. You know what, they were all right. It wasn't one thing that killed me, it was everything put together that did.
Dude, its not rocket science. You want a solution to power creep? Here it is... get ready..
Have Cryptic learn to balance its $h!t, and then make them do it.
See?