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redz4tw
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Hey guys, I'm looking for a good DPS/Tank ship for my fed. Lockbox ships are preferred. What energy type is the best for DPS? How do I get the huge numbers other people get?
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Best tank - Bulwark
There's nothing with both best dps and tank. There are plenty with both poor dps and tank, including ones mentioned by posters above.
Answer is, built/flown right practically any ship can. But there is no i-win out of the box ship.
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The Fleet Excelsior, Sovereign, and Avenger (as well as their lockbox/Lobi store companions, the D'kora, Monbosh, and Galor) have an excellent blend of Engineering slots (for tank) and Tactical slots (for spank), and can run the flavor-of-the-month (for several months running) Aux2Batt build, which gives Engineering-heavy ships a way to basically double their high-level Tactical slots.
Experience trumps talent. Talent trumps builds. Builds trump ships. That's why a veteran player in a bird of prey will out DPS a noobie in an Avenger.
If you want to get good, you need to team up with a veteran player who can show you the ropes, teach you about how to build any ship into a DPS monster, and keep you alive. Ask around your fleet for 'that guy.'
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Err... Any noob can be in an Avenger, but a veteran won't be in a bop, lol.
In theory, a vet with a good build in a bad ship will do better than a noob with a bad build in a good ship. In practice, a vet won't be in a bad ship in the first place.
He's asking about the ship. Nothing wrong with that.
But that's not the point of this thread, so I'll just answer the question. What's the best ship to give you a combination of DPS and tankiness? Honestly, it's whatever ship you like the best.
You can build up almost any ship to soak damage as well it can dish it out, either maximizing a sci ship or cruiser for damage potential or by taking an escort and building it towards survivability.
But since the OP was asking about lockbox ships, I'll just say I've had enormous fun of late in a Galor.
I'll even show you the build I'm running right now: http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=devilfishvampire_3722 This is just what it looks like: an A2B FAW drain build from hell. You could make it tankier by swapping the Sci drain abilities for PH and TSS but it already out-monsters all PvE content and more than holds it own in PvP even with my crappy piloting.
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cruisers you can consider: 1) definately recluse, though most dmg comes from the ultra rare pets that have BFAW3 and AP beta3 (i think)
2) tal shiar adapted cruiser. it is basically a sci ship disguised as a cruiser with a cloak
3) any one of the fed cruiser that have a LtdCmdr Tac boff station. Avenger ofcourse would be the popular choice.
4) though more an escort than a cruiser, i'd say the breen cruiser is a good (free) choice too.
No need for tactical consoles, if you have enough APB. Recluse can run up to 5 copies of APB3. No other ship can do that. Damagewise that allows you to give the competitors a close run. And in terms of tanking, you're still up there with with the best.
The Recluse probably never was the absolute best damage dealer and get eclipsed in tankiness, too. But there is no other ship that ranks as high in both categories simultaneously.
For example;
Fleet Excelsior
Fleet Assault
Fleet Avenger
Monbosh
Though for a real blast, go Klink and use a Fleet Torkaht, and show the Mogh users how its done.
you either mean aux2batt or aux2damp...
Very well put. Totally agree with you.
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Full beam Aux2Bat Fleet Excelsior. Can tank everything and anything, and hits like a wrecking ball.
So, is there a lockbox ship that can do that better? And I'm looking for a PvP build, not neccesarily PvE.
I don't see the difference in the fleet Ecselsior and the T4 or 5 one.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Advanced_Heavy_Cruiser_Retrofit
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Fleet_Advanced_Heavy_Cruiser_Retrofit
Ok so it has slighltly more hps and 1 more tac consol and slighlt stronger shields.I can still do a lot of damage with my Advanced.
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My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
I'm guessing +10% hull and shields with an extra console slot...Boff layout may remain the same
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
fleet ships have 10 consoles, 10% more hull and normaly a 1.1 shield mod...this one has 4 tac instead of 3
more info here and here
there is no T4 excelsior, only T3 (c-store, this one was actually available for 180k EC before F2P hit)...there is also a T5 c-store version
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??? i don't get it ???
*edit: nevermind, didn't realise it is the comprehensive writing disorder guy again...or i guess "age03" is more a description than a name.
I think he means the default weapons the ship comes with are awesome...
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
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the way you structure your sentences, which makes them barely understandable...
but it's cool, not easy to learn a second language. It's just really hard to understand most of the things you are trying to say.
if you are not into the min-max thing, that is totally legit. No real need for fleet level ships in this game actually.
*edit: i actually like the way fleet ships are implemented in the game. With fleet ship modules from the exchange, i can get new ships without spending real cash, and use my dilithium for other stuff.