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deaftravis05
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In larger fleets, it is quite difficult to earn fleet credits, especially as each project asks for 170ish duty officers. EACH...
Now the exchange is asking for more and more expensive prices... and EC is getting a bit hard to come by.
Could those items that we put in the projects that cost like 1200-1800 EC each, please have a higher return for fleet credits than 2 or 3 fleet credits each?
I'm not complaining about the prices. I'm just saying, can we have a better return on our contributions to the fleets? This will help smaller fleets as well.
Now the exchange is asking for more and more expensive prices... and EC is getting a bit hard to come by.
Could those items that we put in the projects that cost like 1200-1800 EC each, please have a higher return for fleet credits than 2 or 3 fleet credits each?
I'm not complaining about the prices. I'm just saying, can we have a better return on our contributions to the fleets? This will help smaller fleets as well.
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the lowest is 20,000... and that's because the guy didn't check the next up price, which was 34,000.
It's averaging 40,000 ec. It's starting to get cheaper to buy rare officers.
As I said, a 170 Doffs is not hard for a large Fleet to get just by playing. It's generally not even 1 doff per member.
What you're proposing is rewarding people who decided to take the Exchange shortcut.
Dill ist 1 Dill per fleet credit which is not too far from 100 EC regarding contrabant prices, dill exchance and c-store prices.
Doffs give 300 fleet credits each, a little less for those "any doff" stuff.
Doing the math results in the exchange prices for fleet base doffs are pretty much in line with the other contribution options. (That is only true after puting an "or" in tac/sec and sci/med options, ofc)
I think the doffs might be balanced, so that you can't make profit by purchasing them at your starbase, turn them in, rinse and repeat. So if they were to raise the rewards recieved for each doff, they'd also have to raise the price for buying them at your starbase.
I agree that the rewards for contributing commodities is to low for the work involved. Spending millions on thousands of seismic stabilizers, going through the hassle to buy them in stack of 100 and being left with a bit of change worth of Fleet credits.
One thing I hate even more, though, are the embassy and mining supplies, which you have to purchase for Fleet Credits, but they don't reward anything on turn-in. They should make them accessable through doff missions and unbound.
but who would do that, when you can get 27 commons out of each purple?
If you're struggling for White Duty Officers, there are a selection of NPC's (in Starfleet Academy, First City and New Romulus Command) which you can visit (I believe every 48-72 hours) and undertake assignments which reward you with between (typically) one and three doffs (per assignment). They're usually white too (occasionally you may get a green or blue out of it).
Assuming you run them every 72 hours, that's a potential 13 doffs (17 if you're playing as a romulan) every half week. Double that for a weekly reward.
Klingon or Starfleet Academy.
As my main has migrated/upgraded to mostly Purples and Blues, the remaining greens are being swapped out for whites for fleet projects.
Doing this helps in many ways:
1. Opens up Doff Roster space
2. Earns Recruitment points
3. Fills fleet projects
4. Earns money by selling the un-used Doff's that are randomly received.
It's that i'm struggling but no matter when I log in, I even skip work because Iknow a timer is going to expire, when I do the projects are all filled in minutes, in several fleets I've tried. It's frustrating, there's no where to actually contribute. It seems like the fleets I've been in, if I leave to go put marks into some lower fleet, just to earn some, they won't let me back in because they want all the fleet credit to themselves. It's depressing how hard it is to actually earn fleet credit and then be able to spend it. I need higher things, like tier 3 and up, but everything is filled. It's just a struggle I can't win.
If anyone has a fleet with high tiers I can give marks to because dilithium is a terrible turnaround, please private message me on here, so I can join. I play crazy hours. very late at night and I want to donate fleet marks more than anything!
a member to message is ynotwlf@ynotwlf
he's on a lot.
Just to counter the 'they are greedy" argument. On my Reman toon I've spent over 5million Fleet credit buying DOffs to feed into the projects. That's over 11000 DOffs. For my toon I've only bought an Elite warp core and a MkXII ground kit. It might not be that they want all the Fleet Credits for themselves, but to help the fleet. To get the fleet to Tier 3 and higher, just like you want.
There are only so many Fleet Credits you can spend on yourself.
And no, I've not gotten all those FC from donating only FM, but also from grinding out EC and Dilithium as well.
Lol hey I resent that remark, as I am one of those who post of whites for 20k all the time until market prices dwindle lower.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
I will even slot provisioning projects in the Mine and Embassy just so there is a place to drop marks and other resources.
You buy stuff in your SB with fleet credits no with fleet marks.
I find the Colonisation project is a good one to pick. Colonists is easy to come by and Provisions are cheap
We are short of dilithium, the holdings just eat it up, even with the 15% discount. The T2 and T3 main Spire upgrades are going to cost 2.55 million, and not provide much in the way of return. So I dislike putting up a provisioning project just for someone to turn in FM. It's going to sit there for ages waiting for dilithium. The 30min 'special' are a far better solution and why they were included.
Actually mining provisions can be gained by criting on the mining doff assignments at the Fleet Mines.
Its Embassy and Spire provisions that have no doff assignments which means you have to pay FCs for them for absolutely no reward. They're really stupid.
Worst advice ever.
In big fleets fleet marks is the first (along with exp, if its there) to fill, doffs are the last (or sometimes dil if its there). the 30 min project most large fleets use to generate fleet creds needs (i think) 510 fms, 17 doffs and 9 civilian doffs. So, basically a cple of hours for a fed to get the FMs for 1 project, a week for the doffs.....
If you really want FMs in a big Fed fleet, go to all the nebulas, do the support mission, if you crit grind the purple doff into 27 commons, then send the refugee on the appropriate asylum mission to get another grindable doff giving you 1/3/9/27 more common doffs to donate.
As I'm in a teeny tiny fleet nowadays, these issues dont come up.
But I've been in large ones and its not the individual player scrounging up resources to swap for fleet credit thats the problem there, its that projects can fill up too fast for everyone to earn some FC.
The small, low yield projects can help, but they're not a panacea.
I dont think theres a pat, simple solution that will cover every eventuality.
Main thing is for fleet admirals to recognise the issue and try to spread the love.
Perhaps big donators can be asked to take a holiday for a week or two.
Perhaps slots need to be set up at differing times of day, so players in different time zones get a chance.
Thing is, it's always going to be a local solution. However, no solution will ever be forthcoming if its not recognised first.